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Baldwin Not the Only Culprit in Custody Battle with Basinger
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 4/27/07 | Jeffery M. Leving and Glenn Sacks

Posted on 04/27/2007 10:34:04 AM PDT by PercivalWalks

Alec Baldwin’s angry, over-the-top voice-mail tirade at his daughter, Ireland, was clearly wrong. Unfortunately, while we’ve been wringing our hands over how bad Baldwin is, we’re ignoring the case’s central truth – Kim Basinger’s well-documented parental alienation campaign against Baldwin.

Parental alienation often arises after a divorce, as one angry, vengeful parent tries to turn the children against the other parent, destroying the loving bonds the children and the target parent once enjoyed. Baldwin claims that his outburst occurred in the context of Basinger alienating Ireland and trying to drive him out of his daughter’s life.

This claim appears to have merit. In fact, Basinger’s own mother has publicly condemned her behavior. Ann Basinger, Ireland’s grandmother, calls Baldwin a “wonderful” parent, and says:

“My heart is sad for Ireland. She’s the one that’s suffering the most. All this is killing her. I think Kim has tried to alienate Ireland from her father. Alec loves his daughter with all his heart. He really is a family man . . . I hate what [Kim] is doing.”

Journalist Pat Lalama, who has covered the Baldwin-Basinger divorce and custody battle since their break-up seven years ago, recently told CNN:

“In all the years that I have covered celebrities . . . this was one of the meanest exchanges between two human beings . . . some of the things that Kim Basinger was demanding, in order to humiliate him, were outrageous . . . [Baldwin] was provoked by an angry ex, which I’m guessing is probably the case here, [and] he went over the edge.”

Earlier this year Baldwin charged that Basinger has: violated his visitation rights; interfered with his phone access to Ireland; and not notified him when she was going to be out of town so Baldwin could care for Ireland himself rather than leaving her with Basinger’s baby-sitters.

In court Baldwin produced messages that Basinger gave Ireland before Ireland’s visits with Baldwin. The messages, which were printed on candy bar wrappers, implied that Basinger had been mistreated by Baldwin and that Basinger and Ireland are aligned together.

Despite this, Baldwin has made legitimate attempts to placate Basinger in the best interests of their child. In November he even went on “Larry King Live” and praised Basinger, telling King, “I think she’s a great mother, yes, a good mom.”

In the long run, the apparent decision to leak the tape to the media – in violation of a court order – is far more damaging to Ireland than Baldwin’s angry tirade. Had the tape not been leaked, Baldwin would have apologized to Ireland, and the incident would have been soon forgotten. Instead, Ireland will be embarrassed by the incident for the rest of her childhood.

One tactic frequently employed by alienating mothers is to try to provoke the father into blowing his top by interfering with his relationship with his children. When he does, mom pretends to be scared of “his awful temper,” and gets the father’s already limited role in his daughter’s life reduced. Baldwin was foolish to play into Basinger’s hands.

As the target parent of parental alienation, Baldwin is in a very difficult and painful situation. John Stossel, in his new book Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel – Why Everything You Know is Wrong, describes an example of parental alienation he filmed for his TV show:

“We videotaped one such heartbreaking scene. A divorced father went to see his five kids for what he thought would be a full-day visit. He was entitled to that, under court order, and the court also ordered the mother not to discourage the children from spending time with their father. But she clearly had poisoned his children’s minds against him. The father just stood outside his ex-wife’s house and begged his children, ‘Would you like to go out with me today?’ ‘No,’ said one kid after another. Then the mother ordered the kids back into her house.

“What comes through on the tape is the unbridled satisfaction of the mother and the helplessness of the father.”

Can any parent reading this honestly say that, were they in this father’s shoes, they would never blow their top?

Jeffery M. Leving is one of America’s most prominent family law attorneys. Glenn Sacks’ columns on men’s and fathers’ issues have appeared in dozens of the largest newspapers in the United States. www.GlennSacks.com


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; barfalert; childabuse; excusesexcuses; irelandbaldwin; kimbasinger; parentalalienation; spouseabuse; stalker; wifebeater
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1 posted on 04/27/2007 10:34:12 AM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

Sheeesh !


2 posted on 04/27/2007 10:38:01 AM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: PercivalWalks

at least he didnt’ threaten to stone everybody and their families...


3 posted on 04/27/2007 10:38:23 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: PercivalWalks

Kim and Alec deserve each other, just get the kid away from them.


4 posted on 04/27/2007 10:38:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: PercivalWalks
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5 posted on 04/27/2007 10:40:07 AM PDT by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: PercivalWalks

Forget Alec’s politics; this alienation thing is a real phenomenon I’ve seen first-hand, and any mother who would have leaked that tape to the press cares more about spiting her ex than loving her daughter.


6 posted on 04/27/2007 10:41:51 AM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: PercivalWalks

Didn’t he physically abuse Kim?

He also made a very clear death threat against Henry Hyde AND hid kids.

The man is a threat and Kim is right to keep him away.


7 posted on 04/27/2007 10:41:54 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Oh please! SOrry, but I think all KIM has done is protect her daughter from a verbally abusive ass!


8 posted on 04/27/2007 10:42:32 AM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!)
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To: PercivalWalks
...One tactic frequently employed by alienating mothers is to try to provoke the father into blowing his top by interfering with his relationship with his children. When he does, mom pretends to be scared of “his awful temper,” and gets the father’s already limited role in his daughter’s life reduced...

BINGO!!

Good article. I know of some of the tactics firsthand, unfortunately.

The truly sad fact of these kinds of battles is the children suffer the most.

An interesting study I read recently shows that the mother is most likely to want to keep the father out of the child's life while the father usually seeks to include the mother in the child's life.

9 posted on 04/27/2007 10:43:29 AM PDT by FReepaholic (If Cho had a nuclear weapon instead of guns, would he have used it?)
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To: PercivalWalks

This is just about exactly what I’d been guessing. Sure Baldwin is a hothead, but Basinger ... anyway. The article said it well.


10 posted on 04/27/2007 10:44:24 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: PercivalWalks
Kim Basinger’s well-documented parental alienation campaign against Baldwin.

he's such a bad-tempered weirdo... i don't blame her... and i certainly don't blame her for outting his vile spewing of words to his daughter in the voicemail...

11 posted on 04/27/2007 10:44:45 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Halls

i agree!


12 posted on 04/27/2007 10:45:37 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: PercivalWalks

Let me get this right, because Basinger is a witch it’s okay for Baldwin to call his daughter “a pig”?


13 posted on 04/27/2007 10:45:47 AM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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To: PercivalWalks
Baldwin claims that his outburst occurred in the context of Basinger alienating Ireland and trying to drive him out of his daughter’s life.

Regardless as to how Baldwin's outburst became public it is vary clear that he was addressing his daughter and he is guilty of child abuse. Now days you can arrest a parent for public spanking. If his outburst wasn't a spanking to her psyche, I don't know what is.

14 posted on 04/27/2007 10:46:04 AM PDT by BaylorDad (RE: TTC - Some delays are prudent, others are very costly.)
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Kim Baldinger may be a bad person, but nothing in the world excuses calling your 12 year old daughter, who didn’t divorce anybody, a pig. Alec Badman has a history of hysterical, hateful, and violent behavior and I’m sure the “publicity” generated by leaking the phone call is the least of the young girl’s problems.


15 posted on 04/27/2007 10:46:52 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: PercivalWalks
Jeffery M. Leving is one of America’s most prominent family law attorneys.

I've seen this joker's commercials. He's proud that he helped reunite Elian Gonzales with his father.

16 posted on 04/27/2007 10:47:04 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: PercivalWalks
I have a cousin who makes his living in Chicago defending men's rights in cases like these. He is well known for it in the midwest. This is a sorry subject and an open wound for many. Whatever you may think of Alec Baldwin, some women say and do horrible things to their ex's.

There is no excuse for Basinger to release the recording to the public. None. Alec Baldwin's temper is famous, Basinger's temper is about to be.

17 posted on 04/27/2007 10:47:07 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: PercivalWalks

BS! Kim B is a totally hot babe and A Baldwin is a fat lib pig. Of course he’s the problem.


18 posted on 04/27/2007 10:47:22 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: PercivalWalks

The tape was not ‘sealed’ by court order, that appears to be a deliberate misrepresentation.

That said, I feel sorry for the daughter, her parents are both nuts.


19 posted on 04/27/2007 10:48:11 AM PDT by Badeye (Yesterday was pretty good, today is shaping up nicely, and tomorrow anything is possible)
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To: PercivalWalks

This thread is worthless without Kim Basinger pixs.


20 posted on 04/27/2007 10:49:14 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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