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Microsoft admits Vista failure
Volesoft ^ | April 21th | Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 04/21/2007 7:13:38 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

WITH TWO OVERLAPPING events, Microsoft admitted what we have been saying all along, Vista, aka Windows MeII, is a joke that no one wants. It did two unprecedented things this week that frankly stunned us.

Dell announced that it would be offering XP again on home PCs. The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than MeII. It can't do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep class, well, you take what you are shovelled.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: vista; vistafailure; windows; windowsmillennium
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To: Always Right
LOL!

I got one of these for HR.


41 posted on 04/21/2007 6:21:31 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (How ironic is it that me, a linux user, swears by microsoft keyboards and mice?)
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To: TheRobb7

I’ll never run vista, but if it works for you that’s all that matters.


42 posted on 04/21/2007 6:24:07 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (How ironic is it that me, a linux user, swears by microsoft keyboards and mice?)
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To: Porterville

I can’t stand macs, but I don’t see how they’re communistic.

I mean, yeah.... sure, you become extremely dependent upon one entity(apple) but you’re free to make the choice in the first place.


43 posted on 04/21/2007 6:28:28 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (How ironic is it that me, a linux user, swears by microsoft keyboards and mice?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Yeah, but that is why I think they are communistic... can’t do anything with the parts the OS or the software.... It just so self contained without any liberties and then, you end up having to buy MS Office for Mac.

Mac is ridiculous, expensive... but it’s cute like a french man putting down the United States while having a Muslim yute polish his husbands Renault with a gas bomb.... Oh, to be french... oh, to be a Mac Robot.

44 posted on 04/21/2007 8:31:32 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: theFIRMbss
The chips have fallen. Microsoft has won. The game wasn't even close.

Well, it looked like that until the past couple of years, but now the wave is crashing.
45 posted on 04/21/2007 8:51:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aft_lizard
Soon is 2009, which considering that XP has been around since 2002 is a pretty long time for them.

It took SP2 in March 2004 and two additional years worth of security patchwork for XP to become the finished product that it is now.

Vista appears to be seriously crippled at every aspect when compared to XP.

46 posted on 04/21/2007 9:32:14 PM PDT by 2OOOll
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To: 2OOOll

Ummm, no it isnt. Vista is quite a bit improved in a lot of aspects over XP. Programs open faster, boots quicker, more tools, just an overall better user experience IMO.


47 posted on 04/22/2007 7:20:37 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard

My daughter just got a laptop. It’s got the same hardware mine does - Celeron M with 1G Ram. The rest of the hardware is pretty much the same, too.

Mine, however, runs XP. Hers came with Visa. The poor thing is so bogged down by that bloated mess that it takes forever just to open a file. And no, there’s no viruses or popups. I’m afraid to tinker with some of the start programs to try and speed it up because the interface is so obnoxious.


48 posted on 04/22/2007 7:34:24 AM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Vista has good security but it is so annoying that most people turn it off because they actually want to get stuff done instead of dealing with pop-ups all day long asking "are you sure?" every time you want to do something. When they do this, Vista has virtually no security at all and is thus LESS SECURE than any of it's other OS's.

I'm sure that Microsoft will eventually get this fixed but in the meantime, this Vista release has been an absolute disaster for them. I would not be surprised to see Apple with a 15% market share by this time next year. And the more people that start using a Mac OS, the closer we will get to that "tipping point" where choosing an Apple over a PC will not be that scary to most people. And if we get to that point, things will quickly get very, very interesting in the computer world.

49 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:33 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 94 days away from outliving Curt Hennig (whoever he is))
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To: Kieri

Then something isn’t right, probably unnecessary or bloated extra programs like Norton are bogging it down. In a heads up Vista when compared to the exact same configuration on my old PC, boots about 20 seconds faster, opens programs much much faster, almost instantly other things are great like the HD Movie Maker, built in partitioning, superfetch, readyboost, I can go on and on. Interface is inherantly easier to use once you figure out the old clumpy start menu is gone and all you need to do is type the program in the instant search.

Does your daughter have aero glass turned on? Because of the power profile of an laptop aeroglass should be disabled when not plugged into a wall as it draws more power from your video card. Disabling is real easy, just right click choose personalize>windows color and appearance>open classic properties>>choose anything other than aero.


50 posted on 04/22/2007 7:48:07 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: SamAdams76

When they do this, Vista has virtually no security at all and is thus LESS SECURE than any of it’s other OS’s. >>>

Disagree whole heartedly. UAC is just one of the security changes, also it isnt as pervasive as you make it sound. UAC is the operation level security asking for permission to run certain(not all) programs. There is also malware detection, a much improved firewall, phishing protection..all of which where not built into XP or any other OS from MS, also some key changes to the kernel and other unseen installation changes that protects further.


51 posted on 04/22/2007 7:51:29 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard

The first thing I did was strip out Norton. That thing is a HUGE resource hog (I had to strip it off my home system and laptop, too). I installed Avast instead — much nicer program.

Aero Glass is turned off, too.

The thing still runs slow. I guess I need to snurch it from her and see what other nonsense needs to be removed.


52 posted on 04/22/2007 9:25:03 AM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Kieri

What does she use it for? A celeron-m I just googled doesnt downthrottle but instead is just a lower powered, half cached version of the pentium-m. One thing to try is a cheap ready-boost capable thumb drive(about $20 online for 2gigs), that should speed things up as it caches programs for faster access and helps aleviate stress on a hard drive.


53 posted on 04/22/2007 9:32:29 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aruanan
>Well, it looked like that until the past couple of years, but now the wave is crashing

Not in the real world!
Just in the media that
is in many ways

subsidized by firms
competing with Microsoft.
(The same media

that a few years back
said that the world would soon be
defined by JAVA!)

54 posted on 04/22/2007 11:11:37 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: aft_lizard
Vista is quite a bit improved in a lot of aspects over XP. Programs open faster, boots quicker

Are you kidding me? Nothing works faster in Vista. It's shinier in the teletubby sense if you care for that, but faster??? Rather you need a super fast computer to make the bloated thing run at all.

Vista slower than XP at start-up, shutdown, gripe users

No wonder Microsoft started to give this thing away for free.

55 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:07 PM PDT by 2OOOll
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To: 2OOOll

Yes faster, I use both XP and Vista everyday and there is a noticeable difference. You can go out and grab links all you want, the fact is unless you have sat and used it like I have then you have nothing to say about it.

Many, proably most users of Vista enjoy it, but all of you FUDpackers can’t give it a rest.

Also:
LOL@You, you actually thought that link at the bottom was real. Unless you were attempting to be dishonest and pass it off as news.

© The fine print: the editorial content on this page is fictional. It is presented for entertainment purposes only. We cannot be held responsible for the actions of anyone who takes this sort of thing seriously.


56 posted on 04/22/2007 9:05:18 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Currently using ME. Tried to upgrade to XP Home Edition, but right after the computer restart phase, got a STOP error. I suspect a non-working CD drive in the computer is responsible for that.


57 posted on 04/22/2007 10:10:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless Virginia Tech!)
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To: aft_lizard
Yes faster, I use both XP and Vista everyday and there is a noticeable difference.

Then your XP must be seriously crippled. Many people don't realize how much useless spyware and junk is running on their computers eating up the resources. You should ask a computer tech person to look at it for you.

LOL@You, you actually thought that link at the bottom was real.

I didn't read the fine print and never thought it was intended to be a joke. I'm one of those charming conservatives who don't easily buy into sales hype and wouldn't "upgrade" to Vista for free. After learning that the Chinese nation purchased whooping 244 copies of Vista in the first two weeks, free giveaways - although not quite in MS style - would not surprise me at all.

58 posted on 04/23/2007 6:48:00 AM PDT by 2OOOll
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To: 2OOOll

Then your XP must be seriously crippled. Many people don’t realize how much useless spyware and junk is running on their computers eating up the resources. You should ask a computer tech person to look at it for you.>>

The thing is, it isnt a cripple malware/adware/virus infested machine. It is almost pristine and optimized as best XP can be. The truth is that there seems to be a point where Vista on hardware really surpasses the experience you get from XP, don’t know exactly, but both my XP Pro and Vista Premium have the exact same hardware configurations, and Vista outperforms it for boot up, shutdown, and launching and using day to day programs such as Office 2007. XP only really out shines Vista in games, because frankly hardware drivers(fricken nVidia) and the games are not optimized for it yet(some though perform exceedingly well like Oblivian, others like FEAR are absolutely unbearable).


59 posted on 04/23/2007 7:25:38 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I just pulled a new HP out of the box with Vista. I gave my old (not so old PC with XP to my oldest). Initial thought: I want my XP back.


60 posted on 04/23/2007 7:39:47 PM PDT by Doc-Joe
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