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To: windchime; A Citizen Reporter; All
I was looking for an interview of Taz saying that she had turned Anna over. Well, I finally found it and wanted to see if you all thought if it might explain the blueish areas on Anna’s chest. This could be very important as a further indicator of time of death. Without Anna being turned over from her stomach to her back, the blueish areas on the face and chest didn’t make sense. After death, blood settles on the bottom side. (hope I’m making sense.)

The following is a partial quote from a post by A Citizen Reporter:
Part 2

Re-enactment
Int: This is the most shocking thing I’ve heard in this investigation.

Voiceover: And you’ll hear why in a minute, from Tas, the nurse, who’s re-enacting how she found a lifeless Anna Nicole, who she thought was just asleep.

Tas: And I went over, and I looked at her, and I was like “Oh my God.”

VO: Tas knew something was terribly wrong.

Tas: No breathing, no anything. SO WHAT I DID WAS I TURNED HER OVER and I shook her, and I said, “Anna, Anna are you awake? Anna, Anna wake up.” (CAPS added by me)

VO: And when Anna didn’t wake up, the registered nurse started CPR, but instead of calling 911, she called her husband, Moe, the bodyguard. “””

809 posted on 03/11/2007 12:37:57 PM MDT by A Citizen Reporter
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Windchime you’re so right about the older posts being seen in a different light as time goes by. The difficulty continues to be discerning what is really true or if Tasma is partially parroting a pre-scripted chain of events by the Director. It becomes kind of a read between the lines and compare what others have said (Brigitte),and therefore find some grains of truth.

I think this is the only interview where Anna is said to have been turned over. If true, it could shed more light on time of death, due to descriptions from other accounts. I think the question of an IV is a VERY important one too.

Greta is perhaps our best vehicle to find out answers to these questions. Perper is still appearing on her show and she doesn’t seem to be intimidated by HKS’s threats. Some make fun of the topics Greta covers, but imho, she is doing an invaluable service for justice by continuing to seek the truth.

230 posted on 04/07/2007 8:21:47 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777

What you’ve said makes sense. The blood is no longer circulating, so pools at the lowest point.

Another interesting item in this re-enactment is there is no mention of Brigette Neven. In some of the early reports Brigette is the one who notices there’s no movement from breathing. As time passes, Brigette disappears in the telling of the story.


256 posted on 04/07/2007 8:47:58 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT(everything not sourced should be regarded as IMO))
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Page 4 of the autopsy says:

Evidence of Recent Medical Treatment:

(snip)
There is intravenous line placement at the right anterior neck with hemorrhage into the anterior strap muscles of the neck.

One recent needle puncture mark is in the right antecubital fossa and two recent needle puncture marks are at the anterior left elbow with surrounding ecchymoses.

There is one recent needle puncture into the medial one-third of the left anterior forearm with surrounding ecchymosis.

A recent needle puncture mark is at the left anterior wrist with surrounding reddish ecchymosis, 1 inch in diameter.

http://www.broward.org/medical/060223autopsy_report.pdf


Would all of these have come from resuscitation attempts?


261 posted on 04/07/2007 8:57:14 PM PDT by Abbalybisabba
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To: Pepper777

Wow, I just read this. If Anna died face down an hour or two earlier, that would certainly explain the incipient lividity, the purple blotches on her face and chest, they were in the dependent position and so the blood had a chance to begin pooling there. The longer they worked on her the more they would have disturbed the beginning rigidity. Very confusing for anyone arriving on the scene even 30 min later.

“Voiceover: And you’ll hear why in a minute, from Tas, the nurse, who’s re-enacting how she found a lifeless Anna Nicole, who she thought was just asleep.

Tas: And I went over, and I looked at her, and I was like “Oh my God.”

VO: Tas knew something was terribly wrong.

Tas: No breathing, no anything. SO WHAT I DID WAS I TURNED HER OVER and I shook her, and I said, “Anna, Anna are you awake? Anna, Anna wake up.” (CAPS added by me)

VO: And when Anna didn’t wake up, the registered nurse started CPR, but instead of calling 911, she called her husband, Moe, the bodyguard. “


290 posted on 04/07/2007 9:51:18 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: Pepper777

Why do you think Vergie is at EVERY hearing that has to do with her daughter, grandson, or granddaughter???

1. She just retired and has always wanted to ‘get her groove on’ in the Bahamas?

2. She will STOP AT NOTHING to make sure that her daughter and her grandson get justice, and she will stop at nothing to keep her granddaughter away from HKS???

If you answered Number 2, you are CORRECT!!! Give yourself a pat on the back and send a letter to the Bahamas stating you would like them to send (or extradict) HKS to the US!


342 posted on 04/08/2007 12:51:29 AM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Pepper777
I wonder if when the lady saw Anna moving if it was really a seizure or death spasms?

Last night on either NG or Geraldo, the drug expert that talked to KE or Howard allegedly not only told the person to take Anna to the hospital but to get her some seizure medications asap. Maybe the drugs or detoxing (if she was detoxing from demeral) could cause seizures?

394 posted on 04/08/2007 5:47:21 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Pepper777

“...the registered nurse started CPR,”

Moe gave an interview to Greta on Feb 27 which should have raised some Seminole eyebrows. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255001,00.html
Moe’s description of ANS the last time he saw her is different than what he described to Perper.

BIG MOE: She was — I saw her moving around a little bit and she seemed tired, she was sleeping.

He told Perper that he thought she was moving, but, couldn’t be certain.
He seemed certain when he spoke to Greta.

He detailed to Greta the CPR tecniques his wife was utilizing-
BIG MOE: Just coincidentally, she’s a nurse and she was there and she started administering CPR and giving rescue breaths ..
Then Moe goes into the ridiculous fantasy story about cell phones bought in Dade, can’t be used to call 911 in Broward.
Then Moe describes his entrance into the room-

BIG MOE: .... I opened up the door and I saw my wife on top of her and I gently moved her out of the way. Pulled the cover back and looked at Anna’s face...

But,...wasn’t his wife just doing mouth to mouth ?? With covers over ANS’s face ?
And Moe “gently moved his wife out of the way “ -in a code, gentle movements are a waste of valuable time. In a life threatening situation you don’t want EMT’s acting according to Miss Manners.

Then Moe says this “ I thought about, was picking her up and putting her on the floor so I could properly do the CPR if I had to.”

If he had to ??? What else would he be doing ?
Was he just going to watch while tired Taz continued her 40 minute over the covers CPR ?

On Feb 23, Moe said similar things to LKL.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/23/lkl.01.html

BIG MOE”: ... I pushed off the covers off the bed and I looked at her. And Anna has very voluptuous, beautiful lips, and full lips. And when I saw her, her lips didn’t look right. They looked kind of pale and blue. “

So-Moe again validates that ANS was under covers while Taz was doing CPR .
Moe added more details for LKL-
“ So I slapped her on the face and tried to wake her up. “

But, didn’t Moe just say that his wife was doing CPR ?
He stops the CPR to slap ANS to try and wake her up ??

He again validates that he had to put her on the floor
“ just in case I had to do CPR.”

You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out from Moe’s interviews that Taz was not doing CPR when he first got to the room and that Moe was the first person to begin CPR-40 minutes after he got the call from Taz.


530 posted on 04/08/2007 5:47:02 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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