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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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so with her gone he is the executive in charge of Smoochie lips and he gets the moo la....
Larry, if he is worried that something might happen to DL, should take her back ASAP to the US and then let somebody else do the fiduciary stuff.
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But he can’t if Virgie won’t stop blocking him.
That is a formidable period in a child's life. If they were or had been close, why wouldn't he have tried to see her after ANS kicked him out of the house?
Larry should be free to leave with his baby immediately. Let O’Quinn and Virgie deal with the rest. Besides the money, let’s not forget the deaths that need to be answered for. Drug pushing, gaslighting, etc.
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ABSOLUTELY! We are in agreement.
That’s absolutely correct. What goes around comes around in life.
~LOL~ I remember that.. I loved I Love Lucy! Those were the good ole days.
It was extremely foolish of the old man to dream that ANS would ever be faithful to him! She LOVED Clay and many other men and women in her life and she screwed around on ALL of them too!
She lived at the ranch and had a house in California and was traveling for business extensively (she was still the Guess spokesperson at this time). ANS was attributed with bringing him out of his funk over the death of his mistress and she made him very happy for a period of years. After they were married she wasn’t as attentive and certainly not the model wife...
the question is not whether we “like” her or think she “deserved” the $$$$$. It is WHAT not J. Howard Marshall promised her to induce her to marry him and what Pierce and his lying, scheming attorneys did to block her received that promise.
What cooked Pierce’s goose in Federal court was NEW evidence that was not presented in the probate court case.
ANS’s attorney’s were able to prove that Pierce was lying when he said he DIDN’T know about his fathers wedding until it was over.
As soon as Pierce found out his father was marrying ANS he and the attorneys IMMEDIATELY started draining his fathers assets. They set up a trust and had J.Howard sign it...and then added a new page making it irreversible. He made it impossible for his father to get any money out of his oil company so he could not give Anna any gifts. All of these documents were backdated in order to make it look like they were executed BEFORE the wedding.
Additionally, Pierces lawyers had claimed that they knew nothing about J. Howard wanting to provide for ANS in catchall trust or give her half of his “new community” (amount that his net worth increased during their marriage). HOwever, upon extensive additional discovery including billing statements it was shown that these same attorneys had billed for preparing drafts of possible catchall trusts and corporations that could be set up to provide for ANS.
It doesn’t matter that ANS was terrible with money and didn’t invest wisely. It matters that Pierce secretly ROBBED his father of his assets and blocked his ability to provide for his wife as he wished. Pierce completely controlled the lawyers and paid them off to manipulate and fool the old man. They joked about in private memos even.
It’s disgusting and he needs to punished even if it is posthumously.
So what? It's a complete lie. Even Perper found Methadone in her bile.
I’m just curious...if there never was a settlement of $88 million offered to ANS, WHERE did that rumor come from? Did Anna and HKS make it up to play to the media and bolster their position that J. Howard Marshall wanted Anna to have half (which would be their reason for turning down the offer) of his fortune? I just assumed that the $88 mil settlement offer was a fact, but if it wasn’t, I wonder who started that rumor. Do you know?
I have a question I was pondering at dinner tonight. We know Larry flew his nanny to the Bahamas to meet the baby.... is the nanny still there bonding with the baby along with Larry?
I won’t be able to view it on this puter, but I’d like to know what it was. Is it Hardin or Brunstad? Like on Larry King Live or doing some other news interviews?
The “offer” myth just doesn’t seem to go away. I can’t believe there ever was one. No matter what, it would entail selling some Koch stock and that’s not only anathema to anyone in the Marshall family, it’s really pretty close to impossible.
Rusty and Brunstad both have said in recent weeks they will keep up the fight to the end.
I wondered that, too - but then I realized he had gotten that big paycheck for Dannielynn, so it’s “OK” to fly a nanny back and forth, I would say.
So, I’m guessing she went back.
LOL! I wish I had a teeny tiny portion of one of these ‘drips and dribbles’ to invest for my kids! For a normal person like me, that’s a fortune!
BTW, no offense to AC or TSOwl, I’m sure you both agree that any of us would be happy with that amount of money..
and Methadone is illegal in the Bahamas.... and HKS was seen picking it up at the mailing station... ergo, HKS has a lot to answer for re: the methadone if the inquest ever gets off the ground.
What I got to thinking was it would be smart to bring her there and have her stay and bond along with Larry so when they do finally get clearance to return to the States the baby would be comfortably with people she knows.
oh yeahhhhhhh
As Anna said on the stand regarding the money and luxuries he gave her, “It’s not easy being me.”
I have no idea. It was around before I started paying any attention and in spite of reams of text written to put the kibosh on it, it just keep going and going, a la Energizer.
The $88 million came from a number that was awarded by one of the CA courts along the way, as a reduction from the original $475 million. It was *allegedly* a more accurate reflection of JHMII’s asset earnings in the 14 months of their marriage.
However, no one has a true valuation of the private Kock Industries stock - and moreover, ANS wasn’t claiming against the will or putting in even a “widow’s claim.” She was just making something up of whole cloth.
Anyway, that court was the one that decided it would be something like $46 million - and then they tacked on something like $42 million in punitive damages because they believed ANS’s legal teams lies’ about Pierce Marshall.
The problem was that they only called 4 witnesses - whereas Texas probate court had a 6-month trial and covered the same issues, with findings all being against ANS. So, the $88 million was overturned and then the SCOTUS remanded it on the appeal.
Well that ‘stinks’ bc I believe that is EXACTLY what HKS is relying on, at this point!! Just think, if his ‘buddy’ Ron Rales can get the Will (and I bet Ron Rales has located a COMPLETE copy of the Will from Anna’s CA home, by now)probated in CA, with Rales as Executor, and HKS as GUARDIAN, then they will be ‘sitting pretty’ when it comes to ‘carrying out Anna’s wishes’ in the Bahamas!! I don’t care who says that HKS is not that smart....he was SMART ENOUGH to get himself named as EXECUTOR and GUARDIAN in Anna’s Will...and he was SMART ENOUGH to get his ‘best buddy’ named as second EXECUTOR in the same will. Even giving up the Executor position, he still retaines the “Guardian” role, and his BEST BUDDY Ron is the Executor...lucky break for HKS, huh???
A great deal of that *was* covered in the TX trial and found not to be credible with the jury.
Then there’s the Christmas video that *wasn’t* around for the TX trial, either.
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