Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[fluffytoo]

I think Larry is getting sucked into Howard’s alternate reality/spin. The brainwashing is working. Most human beings who feel get sucked in by psychopaths, cause they mess with your reality. Naivete helps, too.

I find Virgie awesome cause she sees Howard for what he is and has not budged from that position. Howard will do anything to make her the scapegoat; further isolating Larry in the house with him and the baby is a great way to divide and conquer and make Larry doubt his own reality, and to distort the past. Yep, Howard has Larry exactly where he wants him. I think Howard is getting away with murder.

[tabor]

I’m NOT disagreeing with what you just said. In fact, I basically agree with it! Except that I was saying Howard saw it as his job to protect Anna’s reputation( when she managed to destroy it herself) and Anna’s wishes to keep Larry out of her life. Yes, Anna was drug-addled and Howard’s brains/ common sense were fried long ago by his blind love for Anna. Their actions put them in tremendous legal debt as well as Larry. I’ve never quibbled with the fact that Anna ran to the Bahamas to get away from Larry’s legal petitions. I DO think she had reasons that, in her own mind and Howard’s, made it seem to her to be the right thing to do. She felt threatened, from her perspective. We think differently because we can’t see it from her perspective, twisted or not.

[blueplum]

hehehe wonder where Howie’s tat is?

[tabor]

I wasn’t surprised when she died. I WAS surprised when Daniel died. I DO want HKS and Dr. E to tell the full truth about ANS and her meds. How will we know the truth when HKS testifies at the inquest? I’d guess there will be some corroberation from other witnesses, police reports and autopsies(re: Daniel), but we’re probably going to have to make our own individual determinations, just as the inquest jury will.
Looks like we won’t ever publicly hear anything from Dr. E again, but I take comfort in the medical board investigations and other ongoing investigations that have probably been taking place.

[A Citizen Reporter]

"How will we know the truth when HKS testifies at the inquest?"

The truth? So far, it's been the exact opposite of what HKS has said. It's pretty easy to follow the truth wrt to him.

Oh, and the exact opposite of Entertainment Tonight's .....indoctrination.

[tabor]

I’m past needing a nap (chronic problems from previous auto-immune disease) so am heading off for a rest, then housecleaning and helping daughter with more college stuff. Hope everyone has a good afternoon!

[Southerngl]

“Even if the Bi/Gay tag sticks and imcriminating pics end up on the scene I still think LB is the right person... but I am beginning to think that that precious baby’s future would be best served with LB living in Kentucky with his family.”

I totally agree!
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I agree. I really don’t have a problem with gay people, even though some folks at FR think I should be hung and quartered. But my parents didn’t have a problem with it and I had several “uncles/uncles” and “aunts/aunts” throughout my life. They were no different to me, never molested or anything. But my stepfather on the other hand... That’s why I guess I get kind of defensive when people assume they are all molesters. I was raped by two different men as a child and they weren’t gay. Sorry, was TMI?

[fluffytoo]

With all due respect, this is called "moral relativism". According to that POV, anything can be justified.

Howard's behaviour was and continues to be wrong and pathological on so many levels, some of them unspeakable. Psychopaths easily justify their actions to themselves. To step into their world is to step into delusion. Not a good place to be, and toxic. Once you start empathising with a psychopath you lose all boundaries and right and wrong lose their meaning. You enter the psychopathic world and become vulnerable to it. This kind of guy would kill his own mother and father and then sue for being left an orphan.

[Southerngl]

That’s how a lot of gay people are. They also seem to think they are better than everyone else too. I have never understood it. Nauseating isn’t it?
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I don’t care that someone is gay, it’s the ‘pushers’ that bother me. They want to make someone else feel just as out of sorts as they do, so they want to accuse you of being secretly gay. If you have a problem with it, you are gay. If you don’t, you are gay. It is nauseating, because if you don’t like who you are, don’t bash me!!

[sodpoodle]

“””””why isn’t Larry letting Virgie visit the baby if he is so in charge of the situation?””””

BINGO Liz!

We know HK$ is never going to let Virgie see DL while he’s at Horizons. But I find it incredible that Larry could not take her for a ride (with the nanny) to visit Virgie.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

"DADDY LARRY'S LI'L GIRL"...

TELLS OF 'JOY' WITH ANNA'S DANNIELYNN

April 18, 2007 -- If DNA testing didn't do it, these adorable pics should prove once and for all that Larry Birkhead is the father of lookalike daughter Dannielynn.

A beaming Birkhead looks every inch the proud papa in these Bahamas shots published by OK! magazine.

"All the joy that parents experience when they go to the delivery room and they see the baby for the first time, I felt that," Birkhead told the mag of his first meeting with Dannielynn.

The photographer and ex-beau of late model Anna Nicole Smith learned that he was definitely the dad on April 10, after a bitter paternity fight.

Smith and Birkhead became estranged, he said, because she thought he wanted sole custody of the baby on account of her drug problem.

"Don't fall in love again, I'd be a bit jealous," she wrote him three days before she died on Feb. 8, according to the article, which hits newsstands today.

While dating, the two tried to have a baby and planned to name her either Annabella or Marilyn Nicole - after Smith's idol, Marilyn Monroe. If it was a boy, they'd call him Niko.

Birkhead also said in the OK! interview that his past nemesis Howard K. Stern, who previously claimed to be the baby's father, has been teaching him the ropes of parenting.

"He knows her likes and dislikes, and he's kind enough to help me out, he said."

He added of his old foe, "People blame a lot on him, but Anna had her own mind, too."

Now his biggest barrier to domestic bliss is Virgie Arthur, Smith's mother.

The Texas grandmother wants Birkhead to assure she gets custody of the 7-month-old if anything happens to him, but he wants his family to raise her in the event of his death.

Arthur's lawyer, Debra Rose, says she's been trying to hammer out a custody deal with Birkhead, but there's no agreement yet.

"We're still in negotiations," Rose said. "We're still talking."

jennifer.fermino@nypost.com

[fatima]

Gosh,I missed a lot on this thread.This is my bookmark.I gotta run,fatima

[mom4kittys]

I’ve known some viscious gay people who really pushed their agenda and would destroy you and your career if things weren’t done their way.

I’ve also known some very nice gay people who were very nice, trustworthy and compassionate people. They didn’t run around screaming I’m gay and I have rights because of it ad nauseum.

It’s the ones that shove their agendas down your throat that are the dangerous nasty ones. Otherwise I don’t have a problem with them.

[blueplum]

i have to say, in Anna’s behalf, she at least tried to get off drugs. Except for methadone and zanax, she was clean for almost 5 months..and she wouldn’t have lost custody of the child just for being on maintenance methadone. then stern arrived, then eroshevich arrived, and then Daniel died, and then the Birkhead slam/smear campaign began...and we all know the rest of the story....sad really.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

[sodpoodle]

Nobody’s perfect;)

Well, we are - but that’s a given!

[blueplum]

i’d say, the 28yr Sherriff has more credibility, than HKS and his drug/prompt video and disconnected phones in the hall closet, or LB and his we-don’t-want-the-body, bury her quick so i can sell her kid’s pictures stichk.

[sodpoodle]

“””””Birkhead also said in the OK! interview that his past nemesis Howard K. Stern, who previously claimed to be the baby’s father, has been teaching him the ropes of parenting.

“He knows her likes and dislikes, and he’s kind enough to help me out, he said.”

He added of his old foe, “People blame a lot on him, but Anna had her own mind, too.” “”””
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Geeeez, just when you think you know someone;( Sucka!