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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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He using the book to show "prejudice". He's citing the gay stuff...but that has nothing to do with the deaths of Daniel and Anna. It's a top seller...says Howard....THE BOOK is inflaming people. They're now "Prejudice". How can they be fair at the "SOON TO COME INQUEST?"
Everything we see and hear from Howard will be aimed at the "prejudice issue". It had died down from before. He has to arouse the issue and keep it going.
Notice that Larry is silent. HE should be the one screaming...Because if he and Howard are bossom buddies, there is a chance he could lose custody.
That baby belongs with Virgie. She was good enough to watch Daniel for 7 years. She's already proven herself. That's why the "I HATE MOMMY VIDEO" made no sense at all. Howard must have been threatening Anna. I do not believe she would have made it otherwise. For Anna to diss Virgie would "degrade Danny's death". Anna wouldn't have done that except under Howard's direction.
for those that don’t want to contribute to the ‘hits’ on Mr.Controversytv site, here’s the U-tube version and here’s a transcription of the tape:(during most of the interview, Bain was basically hovering over Rita - prior to this sequence, while still in the room when the cameras barged in, Bain put his finger in Rita’s face, causing her to back away and try to move away from him)
(speaking to a reporter:)
Bain: I told her that there were affidavits by the, by the nannies, there was an initial affidavit and then there were affidavits that disputed that initial affidavit that’s what I told her I told her that I didn’t want to go into details into what was in that affidavit and there was an argument and I have that conversation recorded so that I can forward it to (garbled)
Rita: not at all. we were told specifically that there were affidavits confirming Howard and Larry and that’s why we thought it was important to come here and that’s why we set..
Liz Thompson: but you were not told that by the nannies or any representatives of the nannies
Rita: from the homosexual we have it attributed directly to a private investigator who’s
Liz Thompson: (talking over Rita) who’s that, who’s the private investigator and what’s his name, what’s his name, who was the attorney present? no need to touch me honey, no need to touch me, who was this private investigator and when was I present as the attorney never (garbled) anybody
Rita: so we have it directly from the private investigator and we are comfortable with what we had and we were told we were coming down here and we made it very clear...
Liz Thompson: when was I present as their attorney, never come from anybody...
Rita: well, that’s what we were told
male reporter: how is this going to help with the legal battle?
Rita: well, it’s disappointing, that we would come down here and we were told we could meet with them and we could meet with them for free. We were never told there was any strings attached and it’s disappointing that we would come down here and then they would saya this.
Liz Thompson: why are you here today? why you here today? having decided you could leave yesterday as well as the day before...why are you still here?
Rita: because we were told we could meet with them ‘for free’ and we made it very clear we could never pay a dime We made it very clear
Liz Thompson - I see, [to Bain] I think you need to get your recordings
Bain: Ok, ok, my recordings will embarrass you and make you look like a purjurer and will discredit you
Liz Thompson: of course they will, of course they will
Rita: We made it very clear. We never said we could do anything We said that we would make a connection with a magazine or something like that which I have no problem whatsoever doing.
female reporter: How is that...Why are you trying to arrange with a magazine?
Rita: no, I have no problem with them getting their story out if they have a real and legitimate story I have no problem in them getting it out in any shape.
[noise at SUV, Tom getting bag frrom car, Bain driver getting/helping to get Rita/Tom’s stuff out of his car Bain driver says something about ‘yesterday at the hotel’],
Liz Thompson: did you hear what she said? she said that Lincoln Bains’ is a liar
Bain: she’s lyin, she’s lyin
Rita: we were told there was also an affidavit stating it so, which is why I specifically asked to see that
female reporter: did you not think it necessary to see the affidavit?
Rita: well I was just told the affidavit existed, i wasn’t aware it existed until a few days ago
female reporter: but you were sayin you were relying on that to support your claim then?
Rita: no-no-no, not in here, we have our claim totally separate but we were told, we were told just recently there was actually an affidavit saying it
male reporter: how long have you been here?
Rita: we’ve been here a few days on the island and we stayed here because we, I made it clear we couldn’t do anything...
Liz Thompson: who collected you from the airport? who collected you from the airport?
Rita: Lincoln Bain did. Lincoln Bain did because we were told we would come here with no strings attached. and that the nannies would meet with us, that they agreed what was in the book and that was the reason to come
male reporter: how long did you leave NBC
Rita: I left NBC (garbled) I left because they cancelled my show (garbled)
Rita: so you guys, so you know, we made it very clear, as you saw in that discussion we can’t do this, I have no problem helping them, making introductions for them, but we certainly couldn’t pay, as even you saw right there, we couldn’t pay anything, I made it very clear, and that’s what I said to them from day one
Bain: that’s a lie, Rita that is a lie that is a lie
Rita: do you know what I mean, and it’s very disappointing that they would do this, because after they had offered us a lot of money and we came with strings attached, I said, wait a minute, that’s not why I came here, [turns to Bain] so I didn’t come here with any stipulations I came here because I thought you were seeking justice and in good faith and that’s why I came here
Bain: and that’s why you write a book and don’t talk to people
female reporter: the gentleman who’s here with you, what’s his name?
Rita: Tom
Liz Thompson: Tom, Tom somebody, I don’t get his last name
Bain: and what does he do?
Liz Thompson: (garbled) ...at the camera
Rita: and this is disappointing after what we’ve been, you know, after what was pitched to us and after what we’ve gone thru the last few days for this to happen do you know what I mean? It’s very disappointing. and I have no quarrel..
Bain: This is the same woman who called me honey said she liked me and tried to kiss me in the back seat of that car in front of...
Liz Thompson: I heard the ‘honey’ conversation, I heard it, I was on the, I heard the conversation
female reporter: now that it hasn’t worked out as you anticipated, what’s next for you?
Rita: I don’t know, I would still hope that, obviously now this calls into question a lot of things here with, on them. But I operated on good faith I was told this was why to come down and to do this and..
female reporter: to try and help the nannies get their...
Rita: yeah, to get their story out, and if they were to do future projects and do, you know what I mean, I honestly would want to consider doing future projects with them if they operated in good faith
Liz Thompson: I see...
male reporter: and this was basically just ...coming
Rita: well I was told there was an affidavit, I was told there was specifically an affidavit talking about the homosexuality which is what I even brought up in the meeting because that’s what I was told
male reporter: where did all the other charges come from, mum, that HKS is pressing against you?
Rita: Well there’s a variety of things..it’s everything in the book...
Liz Thompson: kidnapping for ransom all numbers of things
Rita: a lot of sources that are clearly listed in the book, you know, clearly listed in the book. And it’s disappointing because we were told obviously a very different thing than what we came here for
Liz Thompson: in the book...
Rita: and it was very clear to us, and I made it very clear as you can see that we could not pay anything
female reporter: apart from the $15,000 for a magazine..
Rita: but which wouldn’t come from us which would be a simple referral
Liz Thompson: couldn’t come from US? meaning you and Tom? you just told us you couldn’t do it, Tom could do it?
female reporter: why would it be you and not the magazine themselves who would be down here?
Liz Thompson: Exactly [laughter]
Rita: well no, because I came down here to meet with them for free.
Liz Thompson: [laughter]
Rita: I couldn’t pay them you know, I couldn’t pay them anything..
Liz Thompson: [laughter]
reporter: some sort of side interest to?
Rita: I have no problem if I make a referral
of some sort, but I can’t do anything, I can’t, whether, whether they do anything or not I can’t
Liz Thompson: what happened with the altercation yesterday inside his hotel? what happened yesterday with the altercation inside his hotel? when you grabbed him and was jumping on him to get something from him? what happened yesterday? you’re not going to answer that question?
Rita: we told him, we told him we couldn’t pay yesterday
Liz Thompson: Oh, is that what it was, so he jumped on you you didn’t jump on him? so there should be a police report, eh?
Rita: we simply said,
Liz Thompson: uh, uh, uh, uh....[laughs]
Rita: Yeah, we simply, you know what happened, Liz, you know what happened
Liz Thompson: I wasn’t there and I hope you don’t tap me on the back again
Rita: you know what happened, Liz
Liz Thompson: rediculous rediculous (walking off)
Rita/Tom walking with their items, having had their items removed from Bain’s vehicle earlier..stop for a few minutes, controversy tv filming them stranded...Tom walks off camera, then we see him helping Rita into a waiting car - they get in and leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNPS5eXb6rw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmrcontroversy%2Ecom%2F
I Reread Rita’s tome - Chapter 5 p.76. Regarding the nannies.
Rita writes: ..*two of Anna’s Haitian nannies, gave sworn affidavits to Bahamian attorneys on December 4, 2006, in anticipation of being called as witnesses for the inquest into Daniel’s death.*
In addition to the *sex tape*, there are other, much more serious issues described in that chapter, concerning Anna’s suspicions about Howard’s involvement in Daniel’s death.
Rita trusted the source who described the existence and content of the affidavits; nonetheless, she was in the Bahamas for one reason: to get copies of the affidavits in preparation for the defamation case. For some unknown, absurd reason, she was *set up*.
Unfortunately, Rita comes off as desperate to get post-publication testimony, and, thanks to their attorney & Lincoln Bain, the nannies come off as reluctant, money-grubbing liars.
If this *set up* works, Howard gets a twofer - he wins his suit against Rita and the nannies’ affidavits will be thrown out at the inquest.
IMHO - this is the chapter that has scared Howard - not the gay tape, but inquest material.
“””I dont know why she rushed down there - maybe for her response to HKS filing -”””
Bad timing for sure! That Liz Thompson & nannies might be under stress, preparing for the inquest. Wonder if that was the reason for Thompson’s arrogance? When was she hired? Who has her loyalty? Pro Pinder was our favorite -he seems to have fled the scene! The G.B.Thompsons have been invisible. Perhaps the upcoming inquest is keeping all of them busy. We can only hope!
Either Howie or the Nannies are lying. Since they are on the same side they need to get their stories straight. Howie said it was tartar sauce from a KFC Fish dinner....(I don’t think my KFC even serves fish) but the nannies are saying it was a homecooked meal.. GEE who to believe. Well that’s what makes this even more sad.......the chance that the nannies haven’t been gotten to by Howie and that they are just acting greedy on their own with the help of the lawyer and Lincoln. They retracted that first affidavit regarding Anna almost drowning , Shane Gibson, and the starving the baby. But it’s been confirmed by other sources that she did fall into the water...If you take into account what JH and the PI Daniel have said regarding Stern pimping Anna out then a relationship with Gibson is consistent with that and according to pics Dannielynnn was on the low end of the weight scale. She didn’t get bigger until after Anna died and really didn’t plump up until leaving the Bahamas.
He made that comment on Larry King. Also about the checking the pulse...just playing devil’s advocate. If he looked anything like that post mortem picture when he woke up. I’d probably go for the pulse for too. Remember Anna had already been shaking him and calling his name. I don’t think this was the first time they had done the detox on Anna for important interviews and court appearances. I think it was too prong...if it was innocent...then it was to make sure no methadone was in her system for the DNA testing and in case Larry would ask for and get a total drug test because of her past. He was already going for full custody at this time. 2nd if not so innocent...like you said to make sure there was no link to Daniel’s death. I would also be curious to know what her dosage level was for methadone and to see if it was the same dosage found in Daniel’s body. If so ..that would be a smoking gun. Stern would have to have a medical accomplice to pull this off.
I might be viewing the situation differently (not necessarily better or more accurately). But this is how I see it:
The book greatly worries Howie. He is also a sociopath and vindictive type. Rita Cosby reminds him of Anna Nicole and for this and other reasons he is determined to go destroy her even though he has no case. If he is so upset about the tape reference, he should go after the nannies.
Lincoln Bain and the nannies apparently tried to extort money from Rita Cosby. They already tried it on Don Clark. Obviously it was a setup considering cameras were set up. The one who in the end looked really bad is Lincoln Bain: lack of credibility, extortionist, slick, not too intelligent. IMHO, it was stupid for him to have made those tapes with Rita.
Lincoln Bain is no stud muffin. His claim that Rita hit on him is absurd. Was he upset he failed to get the money, that Rita said no to him, or somebody else paid him to slander Rita Cosby?
The nannies have changed their stories. Could the whole thing be an indirect attempt to actually destroy the nannies credibility and thus get their statements thrown out at the inquest?
If Virgie’s lawyer plays it right..he’s got a case. Remember in Seidlin court with reference to that video Howie says “I’ve seen her more impaired that than”. Seidlin jumps on that and asks if she’s impaired. Howie hems and haws for a bit chugging on an empty cup. We’ve also got him leaning in and coaching her but to me this is the clincher when Anna says that her mother said that SHE killed Daniel. Well I’ve never seen any footage of that. That didn’t happen. That is going to tell the judge or jury that any was coached and told what was said in those TV appearances by Virgie and that the person telling her was lying.
“””they gave their affidavit at Callanders””
IMHO Attorneys in the Bahamas are in the driver’s seat of this trainwreck.
Tracy Ferguson (Callendars) was/is (?) Ford Shelley’s atty. and she took the nannies’ depositions/affidavits.
Pro Pinder had to resign as GBThompson’s atty. in the *break in* case because he was also a defendant.
GBThompson withdrew the Horizons ownership suit in favor of suing Callenders for misrepresentation.
Whose law firm does Liz Thompson (nannies) work for?
Whose law firm does Wayne Munroe(HKS) work for?
Rte, where is your atty list?
I don't think he'll even show and he'll "run" to the USA. His attorney advised him to say nothing at the inquest. I don't think Larry will show either. He was going to testify about Anna and drugs. No way will Howard let him give the same "drug" story as in Seidlin's Court.
That leaves the court with the doctors and "Anna's testimony" which is only what she told police. I'm sure Howard has a video to submit....maybe a few...where Anna says Howard was an angel through all this and if anything, Danny's death was her fault.
Except....IIRC...according to the initial statement by Anna's attorney (which could ONLY be conveyed to him by Howard), Anna had a memory loss of the events connected to Danny's death and WE KNOW...that Howard constantly scripted and directed her videos. That puts the police report and any other videos in the suspect column.
That's why Howard took the photos of Danny after he was dead...He used them to torture Anna and set the scene for her. What she says will match those photos.
But I think she finally saw through it all and gave stuff to Moe...hoping that if no one else, she could trust him.
And where's KE?? I do hope she realizes that she's Howard's scapegoat. As Howard said in Seidlin's Court, "I'm not a doctor".
I’m no lawyer but in regard to the nannies’ story. As long as Rita can have DC and her other PI testify that they gave her the info regarding what the Nannies said then I really think she will be ok. If she received the info from them on good faith. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking but I think it’s the case. It may be circular thinking but the nannies were never the true source to Rita because she didn’t interview them..it was DC and the other PI.
Since it was a long distance call, it is traceable.
If there was such a call, I hope Virgie pulled the tape and recorded the time and date of the call. I have a feeling she did.
Since these videos turn up according to "Howard's Calendar"....we never know the date they were made or the "action" which caused Howard to have a "reaction" via video.
Maybe he checked the "custody laws" and found out that Virgie had a case as "grandmother". And that's when Howard and Larry HAD TO COLLABORATE to get control over Dannielynn via the DNA. NO WAITING UNTIL SHE WAS 18 (LIKE HOWARD SAID).......Larry HAD to be proved the father or nothing would work.
This child could not have "a sperm donor" for a father against Virgie's status.
I'll bet these events can all be plotted out...A, B, C...
We need the TIME AND DAY of the call to Virgie AND the "event" which proceeded it.
“””..she finally saw through it all and gave stuff to Moe...hoping that if no one else, she could trust him.”””
Poor Moe - he has been rendered impotent by HK$’ manipulations and/or blackmail. You have to wonder why he worked for months without *pay*, why he did nothing proactive to help Anna in the Bahamas and why he was so supportive of HK$ following her death.
Now, of course, Lin Wood is slamming Moe for the gross *stolen* photos.
You have to wonder if Moe is the *trusted employee* who secretly came *clean* to Rita.
The comment was made earlier that Anna would have been better off leaving the father’s name blank on the BC. Not for Stern’s purposes though. If there was no name on the BC Stern would have had no claim and Virgie would have been able to get the baby right after Anna’s death. Can you imagine that? Anna was pushing for GBT to put his name on it..does anyone know if Stern was doing the same. I think they wanted GBT for monetary reasons but when that didn’t work they had to use Stern....and that’s what gave Stern so much “authority” after Anna’s death.
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