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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: nature
That is the key: hurt tourism or cause them to fear tourism will be hurt. What is the harm in trying?

Haven't watched Nancy Grace for weeks. Yesterday I tuned it in, and none other than Dr. Josef Perper pops up on it.

16,401 posted on 10/02/2007 3:12:22 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Sacajaweau

i agree, it’s too suspicious - she didn’t get her 9/15 laundry list, but we know from the pill bottles from the Hardrock that she was determined to keep the drugs flowing, in spite of the stink that arose in Sep from her request to Kapoor...and was still writing rx’s on Jan 2nd and Jan 8th, and not for tami-flu either. Hopefully O’quinn will have some sort of evidence of any drug flow between Sep 15th and Jan 2....????

IIRC, when HKS was speaking to KE, he asked her to call his parents; that implies a relationship there, that KE would have his parents number on her phone? (or maybe they were listed in the white pages?) Always wondered what HK has on KE?


16,402 posted on 10/02/2007 3:14:25 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum
It might help if the Bahamas fear tourism will be hurt.

Note to Larry Birkhead: You keep on hanging out with Howard Stern and dissing Virgie Arthur and you might lose Dannielynn. Look what happened to Brittany Spears. And you are starting to lose your hair and looking old. The signs are there. It is from the stress of not doing the right thing.

16,403 posted on 10/02/2007 3:18:44 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: nature
How did you get April 18? for Admit date?

the April 11th admit date was originally , derived by using '18 day stay' and counting backwards 18 days from May 1/2 SCOTUS (but, as already posted, entry is invalid if ANS did not go to SCOTUS May 1/2 as I had orginally thought)

the 'new' Admit Date would be April 16th. LB's court filing says May 5th discharge date. Not counting May 5th itself, as a 'day's stay', 4 days of May plus 14 days of April = April 16 admit date (30 days in April minus 14 days = April 16th)

I show LB testifying on Feb 21-22 not the 17th

the entry under May '06 - LB testimony 2/17/07 was a typo - thanks for catching that! :)

June second LB “contract” .. sorry but your link is to a letter from some nut to an editor. I don’t rely on that kind of stuff for dates.

well, that's why I posted it with questionmarks lol - to try to get some confirmation :) it did seem to make some sort of sense to me, to explain why there is a discrepancy between 'end of may breaking up over sunglasses' as compared to 'ANS left with the Shelleys on May 11th'.

thanks for the links to your databases - I'm not nearly that organized :) :)

16,404 posted on 10/02/2007 4:42:05 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

Good work.


16,405 posted on 10/02/2007 4:44:30 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: blueplum
I think I've mentioned it several times...That KE is/was connected to the Stern family somehow....even suggesting that Howard may have been her patient many years ago...in his youth.

And under the privacy laws, we may never know. Now, supposing his family speaks up...that could change.

But if they were "laundering" money for him, he's got them "blackmailed", too.

Gut feelings!! Do we know WHEN KE showed up in her life?? KE is about Howard's parent's age??

16,406 posted on 10/02/2007 2:29:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau
If this case got more publicity, old friends, acquaintances, or cleaning ladies might remember and speak out. HKS might have spent time in rehab or mental facility.
16,407 posted on 10/02/2007 2:40:27 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Sacajaweau

“”if they were “laundering” money for him..””

Is there proof? Are the rumors/witnesses credible enough for the IRS to investigate? If Bonnie, Louis(?) and the parents were aiding and abetting HK$ in stealing Anna’s assets and hoping to cash in on the Marshall estate through Dannielynn - this sure smells of one huge conspiracy. Is that why the Sterns were willing to pretend to embrace the *Southern white trash stripper* and her illegitimate child?

I expect Anna was too naive to question the Sterns’ motives - she must have believed they *liked* her. Right!!!

Poor Anna, Daniel, Virgie & Dannielyn.


16,408 posted on 10/02/2007 2:56:00 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle
Sometimes IRS has investigated money laundering on relatively little hard evidence - just on indications that something odd was going on, such as a psychiatrist and her spouse sending checks to the friend of a patient, making trips to countries known for money laundering, etc.

However, in a high visibility case, IRS is likely to move more cautiously and expect more evidence. No harm in trying. You can remain anonymous. Or you can give your name and possibly collect maybe 10% of tax collected - I am not sure of the exact amount.

16,409 posted on 10/02/2007 4:07:01 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: blueplum

‘’’’’not sure if even emailing the bahamas govt will work...Stern seems to be ingratiating himself to the “KING’
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I know one thing for sure; not contacting them won’t help for sure! Threatening to boycott, to cut their major Capitol source, tourism, certainly can’t hurt. When all this started they feared just that and said so. I think fight em where it hurts .. that is the only way to get their attention.

King is nobody. His title is for a bar band player. Didn’t help him not get the boot for the regatta stunt they pulled.

It is important to remember, the Bahamas does not like Stern! Their govenment might be corrupt, but the general population isn’t blind and stupid. It is also a basically homophobic country. First baby stealing, now gay? I dare say I don’t think they support him at all. Some articles have even said how contridictory and slippery the officials statements have been. Either way, I don’t think an any american should die on foreign soil and we PAY them for doing nothing by visiting or sending our loved ones to vacation where they risk the same corruption.


16,410 posted on 10/02/2007 4:20:06 PM PDT by nature
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To: apocalypto

No kidding? One phony booking a phony. Great. CNN is going in the toilet. If they think people like those two are going to pull them out, I think they are wrong. Time will tell.
I agree, worth a try is my motto. I have talked two couples out of going to the Baha’s since Daniel died. I will keep on .. keeping on. It isn’t easy but I have always believed our voice can make a difference. Might not always work, but without it, we are no more than pawns in any US matter.


16,411 posted on 10/02/2007 4:24:22 PM PDT by nature
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To: Sacajaweau

Ke is only about 59/60

Sterns mom was born in 1935. So they aren’t that close in age. What connection there is.. don’t know but I agree, odd he would have KE call the parents. UNLESS, he was counting on the shrink factor of her *skills* being calming to them.

Times from what I can gather from posts about the book

Page 215 of Blonde Ambition:

*According to official documents and records, court transcripts, eyewitness accounts, and the participants own words, here is the chain of events which DEFINETLY happened during the key hours.

Night before Feb 7
5:13pm Howard receives a phone call from Dr.E

6:38pm Howard calls Ron Rale five times (last call @6:38)

6:41pm HKS fina; phone call Alex Goen
11:01 Melodie Delancy enters Rm 609

Morn Feb 8
10AM HKS checks his voice mail
10:31 HKS calls Goen

10:42 King Eric calls HKS

10:45 H calls Moe at breakfast
10:46 HKS calls voice mail

10:51 H calls Alex Goen

10:53 H calls Ron Rale (CA 7:53 a.m.)

10:54 Moe calls Goen Tech.

10:56 - 11:19
several calls between H, King,and Moe
11 or 11:45 HKS tells Seminole Det spoke with decedant going to p/u guest
11:50 apprx HKS leaves Anna alone and goes down elevator
11:54 they all return to the room
Day of death
noon HKS calls the boat broker Mark Dekema
12:14 HKS moe King Eric and the first make exit room 609
12:17 HKS made a call to Mark Dekema. Per Mark Dekema HKS called incessently before the appointment - needing directions and asking questions about work on boat - called him 5 times between noon and 1
12:27 Moe calls Taz
12:44 Taz calls Moe - call lasts 1 min
12:45 Taz calls Moe again 4 min call
1:15-1:22 HKS calls Mark Dekema HKS ends call abruptly saying he had to take another call but he cks VM
1:17 Taz calls Moe 1 min at most
1:19 Taz calls Moe again 1 min
1:22 Moe called Taz one minute
1:23 HKS calls Voice Mail
1:24 Moe calls HKS
1:26 HKS calls Moe
1:27 - 1:34 Gap of 7 minutes HKS does not use his phone
1:28 Moe / Taz 4 minute call
1:31 Moe calls hotel liason
1:31 - 1:32 phone tage bet Moe and liason
1:33 Moe calls the HR Gaming Comm
1:33 1:34 1:36 HKS enroute to hotel call Moe over and over
1:36 Moe calls Taz (911 has not been called)

3:48pm and 3:51 pm RR on MSNBC anna is dead HKS speechless

1:38 Taz calls front desk
1:39 Hotel Liasion calls the hotel’s Director of Purchasing. What were they calling that dept. for?
1:43 Hard Rock hotel medical staff arrive
1:44 Seminole Police arrived (first patrol unit arrived at scene)
1:47 Seminole Fire Rescue arrived
1:54 HKS called KE
1:59 Seminole Police detectives Arrive at scene
2:02 and 2:09 - HKS calls KE again
2:09 KE calls HRH liaison
2:27 2:30 2:32 HKS repeatedly calls Moe (2:15 Guerny and Moe leave)
2:31 KE calls hotel liaison
2:37 Alex Katz calls liaison. “He was the other person in the room with them Monday night after they arrived, the night ANS had the 105.”
3:12 HKS calls Goen
3:13 HKS calls hotel main no.
3:14 HKS calls Goen
3:17 Goen calls HKS
3:21 HKS calls Horizons
3:23 HKS gets call from Boesch Law Firm that handles ANS case against Marshalls
3:37 and 3:38 HKS calls Ron Rale
3:49 and 3:51 HKS calls Entertainment Tonight speaking 2 and 4 minutes respectively Mark Stiens jet with KE
4:14 Goen calls HKS
4:26 HKS calls Ray Martino
4:27 HKS called hotel liaison
4:34 HKS called liaison again
4:37 hotel liaison calls HKS twice
4:49 HKS calls information
4:51 HKS calls local elementary school and then its aftercare program?????
4:55 hotel liaison calls Howard
5:38 Leon Stern, HKS father calls Howard
7:12 and 7:13 Moe calls Ron Rale


16,412 posted on 10/02/2007 4:35:59 PM PDT by nature
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To: nature

These must have been obtained from various sources and the question is where? The ACTUAL phone records is what we need. The voice mails?? Who really knows who really called. I’m looking specifically for all the calls between Howard and KE and Howard and Moe. It almost sounds like he let all calls go to voice mail at one point so he wouldn’t be responding in someone’s presence.


16,413 posted on 10/02/2007 4:52:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau; Lizarde; txrangerette; meanie monster; gopheraj; Freedom'sWorthIt; mom4kittys; ...

Just heard Shep on Fox report that Brikhead’s $60 million defamation suit had been filed against Rita and her publisher.


16,414 posted on 10/02/2007 4:58:47 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

$60 million???? Who does that sound like? Is Mr. Wood now LB’s lawyer? Anybody know?


16,415 posted on 10/02/2007 5:34:40 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: sodpoodle
Actually, according to:

http://www.celebtv.com/Headlines.aspx?NewsGuid=9eec3d50-7374-4ece-a1e8-76afd5e395ba

It's Howard that has filed suit.

16,416 posted on 10/02/2007 6:38:58 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Did he file as attorney for LB or as Complaintant?


16,417 posted on 10/02/2007 7:01:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
It's on Greta and it's good!

Figer said it would be hard to prove damages even if they prove malice since basically Howard hasn't been damaged in his job. IMO.

16,418 posted on 10/02/2007 7:03:00 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Complainant. Lin Wood filed for him.


16,419 posted on 10/02/2007 7:03:44 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Hmm add a t to complaintant.
16,420 posted on 10/02/2007 7:09:44 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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