Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[PeskyOne]

Do you think AN was losing her ability to be a ‘money machine’ for HKS, because: 1) she was getting too old to market; or 2) she was out of control with substance abuse. Her health could have been a problem too. Didn’t LB say she had to take medicine for seizures - or were they caused by the drugs? She may have been becoming more of a liability that HKS couldn’t control. I don’t believe LB was ever in love with AN, nor do I believe HKS was...I think she was a commodity to both of them - being used to enable them to pursue their goal of HER money! AN complained about the way LB ignored her when he was around his friends and family. If some of our speculations were being made into a film, HKS would be portrayed as a ‘pimp’ and LB as a male prostitute. LOL Wouldn’t that deflate Mr. Birkhead’s big head?

[Sacajaweau]

Strange....Sometimes my work takes me into left field and I have to let it sit before I make a decision. It's a matter of "What am I missing?".

Now I see why ANNA didn't want Howard to have a DNA test.

She knew absolutely that Larry was the father. There was no doubt in her mind. She might have blown the whole thing at the inquest or on a talk show...which is why she was so doped up in all those bits.

Talking it over with KE (as her only real friend), set the death plan to declare "The Queen is Dead"....a reference to the sicko idea of her wearing a Tiara when she was buried.

KE might be the worst of the lot...the drugs...conveying private info to Howard...convincing Anna to marry Howard. KE appeared to be a real b**** every time I've seen her.

I really think it was originally suppose to look like suicide but didn't work out that way because she had too much people contact that week. She wasn't unhappy and Rale says she seemed fine on the phone when he talked to her in Florida AT LEAST TWICE.

I might be messed with this little scenario...but think I might have found the missing piece which explains Larry's present behavior....He was indeed just "a sperm donor".

[sodpoodle]

“””Who stepped to the plate first originally....Virgie or Larry??”””

IIRC Larry hired Opri to represent him in a California paternity suit before Dannielynn was born.

Virgie’s first action was after Anna’s death - burial and custody of DL - in the Bahamas.

Larry’s paternity suit dampens the theory that he didn’t want to be a custodial father - unless it was a diversionary tactic to keep Anna in a state of paranoia. If LB’s part in the farce was supposed a sperm donor only- after Anna’s death he realized he was in the catbird seat....and birds of a feather...flocked to HK$ with a new proposal.

All speculation of course.

[PeskyOne]

Did any of you notice that when LB started weeping during Greta’s interview that it was entirely inappropriate and one of his less believable acting forays? There were no tears; just wiping his eyes and lowering his head. The more I think about him, the more I’d like to take a 2” by 4” board and smack his rear end. It might jar his brain loose.

[Sacajaweau]

What’s the date on that agreement? I can’t really decipher it.

[Sacajaweau]

I’m not convinced that the document is the one that was acknowledged by Larry in Seidlin’s court.

[shywolf]

wow...so you think ANS and Howie could of had some agreement with Larry to get Anna pregnant or maybe they had a plan and Larry didnt know what was up. I mean she was pregnant and lost a baby(and Larry said that one was his)and then just go away? Maybe Howie cant have kids. Then maybe Larry changed his mind?
So many strange cases in the news these days. Sad sad world!!

[Sacajaweau]

The agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on and I believe it’s a phoney document “created and directed” by Howard “for the files”.

[Sacajaweau]

Had Howard submitted to the DNA...the entire story of both he and Anna being IN LOVE and having Dannie Lynn would be proven as "conspiracy" and "fraud". Simply put, both Anna and Howard agreed to LIE about who was the father of Dannie Lynn.

When did Daniel go to the detective? When did Virgie get cut off from talking to Anna? (It was BEFORE the baby was born and before Danny died.)

[sodpoodle]

“”””””which explains Larry’s present behavior....He was indeed just “a sperm donor”....”””””

Daniel had enough concerns about ANS & ‘friends’ to talk to a PI.

Can we hope that Virgie hired investigators/lawyers following Daniel’s death (or at least following Anna’s death) and that they did a thorough background check on HK$ and KE?

O’Quinn was the first person to publicly use the term “sperm donor”. Do you suppose he uncovered some parts of the weird alliances?

Of course, if Virgie confided her suspicions about HK$ and KE to Larry at any point - she may have made a fatal mistake.

[Sacajaweau]

After the Marshall marriage....I don't think Anna wanted to get married again...what for?? It's the 21st century and except for Marshall...Who else had more money than she had and marriage to someone wealthy would complicate the Court case.

Please don't EVER tell me she married the dying old man "for love".

Please also remember always that the blood line follows the mother...Virgie...Anna...Dannie Lynn.

[Sacajaweau]

You’re probably right about Virgie showing “cards” to Larry. Larry sure changed his tune about Virgie....about the same time that he decided to “off” his attorney.

[Sacajaweau]

Thinking about Daniel and the PI.

I was in Va (1990) and my son called from New York. Told him that I didn't feel well and if I felt worse, I would go see a doctor.

I hopped in the tub and got dressed when I heard a knock at the door.

When I opened the door, there was a big trooper who said in a big thick southern accent..."We got a call from New York that you may be in trouble. They called an ambulance. Three broken ribs!!". Son's just know!!

[sodpoodle]

“””Larry sure changed his tune about Virgie....about the same time that he decided to “off” his attorney.””

Which was really stupid - he had everything going for him -at least for the scenario we all accepted: The young, infatuated, distraught, grieving lover and new daddy - being forced to fight for his baby (who was not for sale).

There can be only one explanation:

HE HAS A BOND AND SUBSERVIENCE TO HOWARD THAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN DANIEL, ANNA,VIRGIE AND DANNIELYNN!!!!

[Sacajaweau]

Maybe Virgie's first legal action was after she died but she was on a show...Keith Ablow? (Oct/Nov 2006?)...and let me tell you...Virgie was worried about everything that was going on. She wanted some contact with Anna and Ablow said they were going to try and contact her.

It just amazes me that Howard and Larry are so concerned about the money and there is absolutely no concern for the TWO mysterious deaths.

[Sacajaweau]

You got it Sod...There was absolutely no reason for Larry to turn on either Virgie or Opri. And the “I told you so” when he walked out of court?? It was all a game!

[Sacajaweau]

I'm thinking about Larry saying what a big job it is taking care of Dannie Lynn. Cripes, I had three of them, WORKED and went to college....and didn't have a 24/7 nanny.

And you probably did similar.

[Sacajaweau]

I'm getting angry...Can you tell?? Think I'll go wash the wall behind the stove. That'll take away that aggression.

If that doesn't do it...I'll do the "pick your own" strawberry thing at the local farm, make bisquick shortcakes and pile on the whip cream!! Yes!!

[sodpoodle]

You got it Momma!

BTW - where is the wholesome Kentucky family? You remember - the attractive aunts, caring uncles, cute neices, nephews and let us not forget the superior, non-Texas GRANDMOTHERS?

It is so clear that Larry is just another Hollywood Hatten, but with less class!

[sodpoodle]

“”””I’ll do the “pick your own” strawberry thing at the local farm,””””

LOLOLOLOL

Just be sure to leave the rifle at home! Strawberries don’t like stress - it makes ‘em sour.

;)