Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[sodpoodle]

“””get ready for the semi naked LB on Geraldo tonight “”

Yup - I just saw the tease! Disgusting opportunist. I truly believe that those of us who supported Virgie from the get-go are probably older, female and grandmothers. Not that we were smarter - but had more life experience in the real world - not Hollyweird.

I rooted for Larry as the obvious bio-dad - until Opri made one comment: “I was asked to do something unethical”. That sentence made me very nervous.

[Sacajaweau]

What ever happened to “get married”, have children, raise them (the best you can) to be responsible adults”. Oh, yeah...Anna didn’t like to do “the right thing”. She was obsessed...not with Marilyn Monroe...she was obsessed with herself and her big bazoombas.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Hey- How are you feeling from the dental surgery? Also, does Geraldo come on at 10 PM ET tonight? I never watch it so I don’t know.

[toldyou]

“Disgusting opportunist.”

LOL! If you would have taken the time to check out the facts, you would have found out that Larry Birkhead was holding Dannielynn while wearing a swimming suit in a swimming pool....the swimsuit was down to his knees.

It was a charming video of a sweet father holding his daughter on Father’s Day!

[Southerngl]

That is one gorgeous baby!!

[SundayGardener]

I think it was nature who found the retyped numbers in the will. I looked at the ‘0’ and wondered what in the world was changed here? What was the point? Maybe someone remembers. If there was a significant change, we should do something about it.

[SundayGardener]

Was this in the swimming pool at ANS’ old house? Are they really living there? I gotta check out this Geraldo show tonight. Even though it’s a charming tableau, it still is creepy.

[SundayGardener]

Goodnight all. Hope you feel better by next weekend Lizarde. Will be reading offline til then. It was a great day for gardening and my bones are tired. But I’m grateful for the health that allows me to play in the yard. Rte66, hope you are feeling better, too.

[toldyou]

Not sure where it was filmed. It was nice. Geraldo was sincere and gracious to LB. I really like LB, no matter what the consensus is on this thread.

Most everyone seems to be anti-LB here now. It wasn’t like that in the beginning. I’m puzzled. You would think everyone would be happy that this child is being raised by someone who isn’t wacked out on drugs, (ANS).....and someone who was claiming to be the father, who really wasn’t the father (HKS).

I’m disappointed that no one on this thread is giving the biological father a chance. He adores Dannielynn...it’s obvious, but that doesn’t seems to be enough. Pretty sad.

You were nice to ask. Thank you!

[nature]

Hi sodpoodle

Media slays me too. lol
They been trying to ‘sell’ a story for months. The ‘gossip’ aspects are a hook for a few but most I see on various boards remained focused on two suspicious deaths. Sad how media so lightly casts aside two lives lost under very suspect circumstances.

[shywolf]

Could everyone say a prayer for this girl...This is going on like an hour from where I live.....

Ohio police are searching for a missing pregnant woman Sunday after her mother found the woman’s 2-year-old son alone last week in her Lake Township, Ohio, home.

Her two year old was found alone in the house and according to the news...when asked where his mommy was...he said...she broke the table and she is in the rug.

[nature]

I did Sunday. I 'thought' there were others posted also but can't find them right now. Here is one blow up.. the zero is clearly different in the year 2001! One is round, one is more square. Now that you meantion that, I lost track of comparing more numbers. I will work on that. ANS Will Also, Help! Anyone have more resources? The fax phone number.. area code 818 according to my search shows: Van Nuys http://www.thedirectory.org/cgi-bin/phonedb/lookup1.cgi Area Code: 818 Prefix: 818 Location: Van Nuys Type of service: Ron Rale explained it was his phone number from two houses ago. When I search Zaba, I do not see any address in Van Nuys for Ron Rale. Does anyone know the CA area well? Would Van Nuys be considered something else in an address? Anyone in CA that can check Census records for Ron's address histories? It looks to be LA County but a city of its own from what I see.

[PeskyOne]

I’m disappointed that no one on this thread is giving the biological father a chance.

Told you,

I, along with a lot of others on this thread, did support LB in the beginning, and I'm still glad he has custody of DannieLynn. However, I think HE HAS CHANGED! He has told conflicting stories and has exhibited a petty and meanspirited side to his persona. He started out acting like a nice guy, and he is becoming a clone of HKS, IMO. He was nice to Virgie when he needed her, but the moment he was announced the biological father he and HKS began to team up. Many of us noticed it at the time, and he has become even more involved with HKS until it is evident they are in cahoots together. It defies credulity that LB would align himself with HKS - the same man who tried to steal his baby from him - and lied about him. Do you remember the things LB testified to about HKS in the courtroom with Judge Seidlin? He didn't say nice things about him then, but now he defends HKS at every opportunity and denounces Virgie.

Do you know why Virgie does not care for HKS and is suspicious of him? He was present when her grandson died under mysterious circumstances, and he was involved with her daughter who died under mysterious circumstances. Not only is there a cloud of suspicion surrounding HKS' involvement with ANS and Daniel; he went out of his way to alienate Virgie from her daughter. He was/is a control freak, IMO, and according to Virgie, he refused to allow her to talk to AN. I consider him a leech and as crooked and dangerous as a rattlesnake! He and LB are both going out of their way to smear Virgie. WHY? Could it be she is a threat to their control over whatever money DannieLynn might inherit? HKS should never have had the control over ANS' funeral and the arrangements. He was not married to her, nor was he a blood relative. It is no secret that the truth means nothing to him! Virgie has not asked for any money, and she's made it clear she doesn't want any, but she does want to protect her grand daughter, and why shouldn't she? LB commented on what a great dad he is and implied he doesn't need help in looking after DL"s money. His actions and lack of maturity indicate that maybe - if not Virgie - then the bank or someone not involved with all the "errors" in this case, should be appointed to protect her interests. It sure isn't bothering LB to live in a house that holds memories for him...and which he does not own! I fear he will make as much money as he can off DL.

I'm not an expert in dealings with attorneys, but I don't believe he thought Debra Opri was representing him probono. He was present when she made the comment that LB had incurred attorney fees over $300,000 before ANS died, and he did not correct her. I imagine he's going to have to pay her something, and we'll learn more about LB when this matter is settled.

My opinion of LB changed when he changed and he continues to validate my reasons for thinking him untrustworthy. Years ago when former Governor Edwin Edwards was seeking reelection and was debating his Republican opponent, the opponent said 'Edwards talked out of both sides of his mouth'. The Cajun, never at a loss for words, said 'he had to speak out of both sides of his mouth because his opponent had wind whistling between his ears.' That about sums up my opinion of LB since he has joined forces with HKS...he has wind whistling between his ears.

I don't expect you to agree with me, and I respect your right to your opinion, but I thought I would tell you why I don't have a favorable opinion of LB. That's what's nice about this thread...we can exchange ideas and opinions w/o hard feelings.

[Rte66]

This is really in reply to your post #12212, but when I reply to graphics posts, I have a hard time opening my Pings/Comments page, lol. Cheap seats again.

OK, what I wanted to point out to you about the little villages of Los Angeles is this - they are all “intraurbs” of L.A. Towns within the city. Some are right on top of each other with almost overlapping incorporated areas.

As far as Van Nuys, some of Rale’s clients have addresses there, so sometimes it shows up in databases that he had lived there, but hadn’t.

Now, for the visual aids! Singing *Ventura Highway in the summer sun ...*

Do this:

(1) Put the zip code 91377 into a google search box
(2) It will offer you a google map of the village of Oak Park, CA
(3) Click open the map and X out (close) the big sign in the middle of it
(4) Below that you will see a green arrow pointing down
(5) Use the grabby hand to push the map up a little until the arrow is almost at the top and you will see that the arrow is pointing to “Oak Park”
(6) That is either RAR’s current or most recent former home address (if it’s true he has moved 3 times since 2001). Let’s start there.
(7) Look south (down) a little ways and you’ll see Highway 101 or Ventura Freeway - ok? If you use the grabby hand to push the map to your right (makes the map go to the left, west) you will see that you’re on the way to Oxnard (that’s in Ventura County, thus the fwy/hwy/blvd name), see Thousand Oaks and then Point Mugu, where so many of our boys train?
(8) Now, grabby hand to the left - the map will move right (east) and follow along Ventura Freeway with me:
(9) Just south of Oak Park, you’ll see Agoura Hills, where two of RAR’s other addresses are - either old or one current.
(10) Keep looking and grabby handing to the east ... you’ll see Calabasas, then Woodland Hills, another of RAR’s former places of residence.
(11) Next stop - Encino. You know whose office is on Ventura Blvd. in Encino - Dr. KE.
(12) Keep going east, past the San Diego Fwy, and you’re in Sherman Oaks, HKS’s hometown neighborhood, where his parents still live and where he is right now - well, maybe. He’s supposed to be visiting them as of yesterday, Father’s Day, but I’d bet he’s staying a lttle more east ...
(13) What do you see next? Studio City, of course. We’re talking yards, rather than miles! Home of ANS and Dr KE, and now Dannielynn Birkhead and her dad.
(14) Look just above that and you’ll see not only VAN NUYS (your target!), but also Valley Village, where HKS’s bro’s school is, where he is principal - this is also where the Key Pharmacy is that filled ANS’s prescriptions.
(15) Dr Kapoor’s office is somewhere thereabouts, on Ventura Blvd, in North Hollywood - see that?
(16) And the tour ends in Burbank, where Larry’s former apt still is, I assume. Maybe it’s Byron’s now, who knows?
(17) OK, backtracking just a bit, look to the south and back to the west a bit, grabby handing the map upwards a bit and you will see Beverly Hills, where Rale’s office is and former ones have been, including the one with HKS. Also home of the famous chocolate BonBon.

And that’s the “free tour”! Just think what you could get for a nickel! Hope it helps.

[Sacajaweau]

I think a big part of the negatives are telling his attorney to go ***** yourself, dissing Virgie, not wanting to investigate the deaths of two YOUNG people any further, telling us how wonderful Howard is AND letting Howard administer her estate....the ONLY person who can get away with not disclosing hidden assets. Damn right they made a deal.

Of course, Larry has good points...he's cute and takes a nice photo. Other than that, we really know very little about him.

[Sacajaweau]

My thoughts were more directed towards page numbers that didn’t match. I’m particularly obsessed whith the fact that Howard isn’t mentioned as Guardian until the very last page. It just seemed out of order.

[Sacajaweau]

Larry knows she wasn't representing him pro bono. That's why there is a contract. This is not a dumb street kid. Larry's dealt with contracts AND lawsuits before.

When I do pro bono work, there is NO CONTRACT....only good faith.

[Sacajaweau]

This is off topic but....Bet I ate better than Ms. Hilton yesterday...and slept better, too. :-)

[toldyou]

“I think a big part of the negatives are telling his attorney to go ***** yourself, dissing Virgie, not wanting to investigate the deaths of two YOUNG people any further, telling us how wonderful Howard is AND letting Howard administer her estate....the ONLY person who can get away with not disclosing hidden assets. Damn right they made a deal.”

I would love to know your sources on each one of these. Thanks.

[nature]

Wow. Thank you so much Rte66!!!

Worth more than a nickle and I really appreciate all your work in helping me.

For someone that said he wasn’t “sharing” his daughter, isn’t it lovely he can’t spend Father’s Day with the one he told LKL he didn’t consider a stepdaddy.

No more Uncle Howie.. that ended in Bahamas.
He is CA christened... StepDaddyDearest