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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


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KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: kcw2007
Howard Stern would be utterly stupid to pursue the Marshall case.

However, since he saw how Dr. Joseph Perper, that creepy hugging judge in Florida (cannot think of his name at the moment), officials in the Bahamas have succumbed to his demands (not to mention no investigation after two very suspicious deaths under his watch) his ego might have swelled to a point where he thinks he can do anything and will really try in hopes that at least they will pay him just to get him to go away.

This is what Christina Onassis did to Jackie Kennedy. She paid Jackie a huge sum just to leave her along.

11,541 posted on 05/29/2007 5:38:35 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh yes, Howard would love that. Is anyone writing a book on this case?


11,542 posted on 05/29/2007 5:41:18 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: PeskyOne
Brigitte never gets mentioned according to what you've written and I believe it was deliberate because she had to get to the boat and sail away.

Some friends, that Gibson and Brigitte. Anna dies and voila...They're gone.

Same for KE. Anna had to be in bad shape when KE left...BECAUSE KE said she called that night AND the next morning to check on her. Baloney...she was telling Howard when and how much!!

Let's say that KE called Howard at 9:00 AM (Florida Time) on the morning that Anna died. It would have been 6:00 AM in California. Ya really think she was up at 6 AM?? In February, it would have been pitch black.

I'll bet HOWARD called KE at about 10 AM and then she called him back on a different phone....with final instructions.

11,543 posted on 05/29/2007 5:46:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: gopheraj

mark


11,544 posted on 05/29/2007 5:55:10 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Sacajaweau
I have to agree with you. I think the last whole day of ANS’s life was all planned out.(actually i think she was “suppose” to die the nite before) Funny how everyone had to go some place? How Howie was acting strange in the lobby. How the nurse was suppose to be watching her and how Brigette(SP) found her dead. IMO she was dead when HKS left the room after feeling much better that morning?!?!
11,545 posted on 05/29/2007 10:14:11 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: Sacajaweau
I have to agree with you. I think the last whole day of ANS’s life was all planned out.(actually i think she was “suppose” to die the nite before) Funny how everyone had to go some place? How Howie was acting strange in the lobby. How the nurse was suppose to be watching her and how Brigette(SP) found her dead. IMO she was dead when HKS left the room after feeling much better that morning?!?!
11,546 posted on 05/29/2007 10:14:21 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: Sacajaweau
Do you think we will ever learn what really went on behind the scenes the days preceding and up until the day ANS died? HKS seems to have a horseshoe up his rear and nothing has been able to stop his quest for control of ANS' money (or what her estate might inherit). Surely there ought to be some smart ethical attorneys in the U.S. that could explain things to the Bahamian officials and to the lawyers of HKS.

I believe HKS and LB have been, and are, in cahoots or either HKS has something on LB and that's why Larry is defending and praising HKS. I have lost respect for LB because of the way he turned on Virgie. He did not give her any choice but to file the lawsuits she has after he joined forces with HKS. He and HKS openly became buddies the day he was declared the father of Dannielynn. I wonder if they had to bide their time before their show of solidarity because there was the possibility that one or more men could have been the father. That would really have thrown a kink into HKS' plans, I bet! I long to see HKS trapped by his devious manipulations, and I hope his lawyers are censored or disbarred for aiding and abetting him.

11,547 posted on 05/29/2007 10:30:04 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne
To answer your question directly. The truth...we'll never know. She was scammed for years. She was a puppet.

Howard knew "Absolutely" that he wasn't the father so the "I am the father under Bahama Law" was always a scam.

KE flying to California the night before she died was also a scam because KE called TWICE in the 12 hours before she died to check on her. But she was better when she left????

The wedding was also a scam. But it put a 10 carat ring right into Howard's pocket and no one can say boo. He is the automatic benefactor.

The boat?? It was something to turn her head and the name was likely a "private joke".

Anna never caught on and if she did...KE took care of it. Drugs and repetitive statements...that's all it takes. And Anna would do and say just about anything for MONEY....even marry a dead man walking (age 90).

What a disgusting life. It must have been just awful for Daniel. Mom wasn't exactly a role model.

Now, they're both dead and no one cares....except Virgie....The only one who ever cared.

11,548 posted on 05/29/2007 1:51:01 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: nature

Thank you nature! I appreciate the link with the information on ‘resealing’, and I’m glad you posted. I am a newbie here as well, but I believe everyone here appreciates every bit of information we can get, so thank you for your input! I hope you continue to post!

As far as the resealing, I *think* I get the gist of it, but I’m still surprised about it, since the Bahamian authorities’ previously seemed to want ‘nothing’ to do with probating the will. I just wonder WHY or IF they have now changed their postition in regards to ANS’s Will, UNLESS the Bahamian officials intend to verify that ANS did indeed have legal residency in the Bahamas. I’m not sure, but I thought that her (ANS’s) residency in the Bahamas was still in question, with regards to the ‘negotiations’ with Shane Gibson, her ‘lack of proof of ownership’ of Horizons, and her ‘never-finalized contract’ for the Pink House (foreclosed house??).

I may be wrong about all of it, but I can’t see how ANS’s residency is valid UNLESS she is declared the owner of Horizons. Do you know if the ownership of Horizons will have any impact on her residency claim (in regard to her Estate and how the Will is probated), OR HOW or IF it might effect HKS gaining residency in the Bahamas? I’m just curious to see how this all unfolds!! Especially, the ownership of Horizons! I didn’t think Anna should get it (unless she obtained her own mortgage and released G. Ben from debt), but I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT THINK HKS (as Executor of Anna’s Will) should get ownership/(control) of Horizons!


11,549 posted on 05/29/2007 7:54:41 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Sacajaweau; All

I still think there was supposed to *some* court action of *some* kind tomorrow on HKS’s appeal on the inquest, but for the life of me, I don’t know what it was supposed to be.

(Having puter problems currently and can’t open any of my Adobe docs, so I can’t post what I wanted to about the will and HKS’s petition. I think it’s just a memory problem and may have to come back later, once I get it cleared up.)


11,550 posted on 05/29/2007 8:08:23 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: kcw2007

Don’t forget - even if the Coral Harbour house were paid for, which it wasn’t, it is not worth $500,000, so can’t fulfill the minimum requirements for a residency.

If Horizons is adjudged to belong to Thompson, which it *should be,* then ANS’s residency application was a fraud, as was the granting of it, because the deed wasn’t valid. Gibson had to have known that - he was a minister of housing before immigration.


11,551 posted on 05/29/2007 8:15:51 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Thanks Rte! I KNEW there was something ELSE about the ‘Pink House’ that was ‘not quite right’ but I couldn’t remember what it was!! You’re right, I forgot about the fact that it wasn’t worth enough money to gain the owner immediate residency status in the Bahamas! I’m glad you’ve kept on top of everything, bc I couldn’t exactly remember WHAT the staus of ANS’s residency was! Thanks again!!


11,552 posted on 05/29/2007 8:58:11 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: kcw2007

Probably TMZ has it right. Anna’s other house was purchased out right. I think to save her residency when the Horizons trouble escalated. TMZ reported it was paid for with ET monies. hks is not totally stupid. My guess is it was probably bought at or near the required 500,00.00. I recall reading 600,000.00 at one time but don’t have a link. Just something in the back of my head so I could have that part wrong.

The only bankruptcy I read was that the original purchase by GBT was from a bankruptcy. I think the foreclosure may be a rumor that got started and twisted from that. Or maybe one of Nancy Grace’s guesses taken on a life of it’s own? Anyway, I don’t believe it and have never seen any proof so to me it is all smoke and not fire.

I have never believed this issue to be cut and dry. The first problem I saw was: GBT signed a conveyance to her. Registered or not, he pretty much approved it. He was there the day immigration came to the house. When Anna showed the deed and presented the house as ‘hers’ he did not correct this ‘lie’he now claims. He willingly let immigration believe it was hers. This could be very problematic for him. Keeping in mind, Pinder has not been right on much all the way through this and he is GBT /FS’s lawyer!Pinder talks the talk but I don’t see the walk. All the evictions he tried and still hks squats in that house. Doesn’t look good to me.

Regarding the residency: That one is probably a dead horse. She was approved and the fire is out on that. You never hear about it anymore. That or they too are waiting out the Horizon decision. FNM were very successful in the election so I don’t see them bringing it back on the table post election. Before the election, Ingraham was pretty adamant and running off at the mouth about how it could be invalid. In his campaign, he promised to re-investigate the Shane / fraud / residency etc. The point is, he gets elected and does nothing since. Is he wearing a Rolex too?

GBT and FS have been consistant in stating they have emails where ANS was promising to pay. Will that be enough is the bottom line question in my opinion. Hard to say after defrauding immigration officers. (Which you know old howard is going to point out). Here are some links to pics of that house “Anna’s New Crib” and an interesting CNN discussion regarding this. Worth the read.
http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/23/annas-new-crib-welcome-to-fort-smith/
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/14/ng.01.html


11,553 posted on 05/29/2007 9:31:05 PM PDT by nature (somewhere over the rainbow)
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To: nature

Thanks nature! You definitely bring up some interesting points! I NEVER heard about G. Ben, F. Shelley, ANS, HKS, ???, etc., defrauding the immigration officers, although I CANNOT say I doubt that...since it sounds par for the course for ANS and HKS, at least. That is interesting, to say the least!! (NOT to mention, that LIKE people attract LIKE people, if you know what I mean!)

As far as Anna’s residency, you may be right that it is a ‘done deal’. It’s a fact we haven’t heard anything about it or Shane Gibson lately, and you are right, that I have no idea who is wearing WHAT KIND OF WATCH there these days!!

As for the ‘Pink House’ you know a lot more than I do! I don’t know why I thought it was foreclosed on, but I ‘heard’ or ‘read’ that somewhere. I know it was a FIXER-UPPER...so to say! And I was NEVER SURE on the purchase price, but 600K sounds like it could be right. Now, I’m wondering if you KNOW why construction STOPPED on the Pink House the day of or the day after Anna’s death? Do you know anything about that? Because it doesn’t make sense to me...Thanks, kim


11,554 posted on 05/29/2007 10:05:17 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: nature

I’ve got to go to bed, but I’ll check back tomorrow and hope to see you here too! You really seem to have a lot of information, and I, personally, thank you for posting it!!


11,555 posted on 05/29/2007 10:18:46 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: nature

I’m not sure we would ever see the proof on the Coral Harbour house unless it comes up as evidence in a courtroom, or if the former owner and/or mortgage lender files something publicly.

What I read (and I’m still hand-sifting through my notes because I didn’t have it with any of the obvious keywords on first scan, so I’ll have to get better quotes or links later on) was that the house is in the name of a Bahamian corporation HKS was alleged to have set up for ANS - supposedly the name like “Cracker Inc.” or similar.

And, that ANS only put down a minimal down payment, then reneged on the rest of the mortgage and it was going into foreclosure. The house was supposed to be $300,000. The majority of the money spent on it was for the remodeling, paying King Eric to oversee it. The work stopped the morning of the day ANS died and reportedly has not resumed.

The boat is supposed to be docked at King Eric’s boatyard, rather than at the Coral Harbour pink house dock. Various posters on other forums say that the plumbing fixtures and other construction materials are still out in the front yard. I’ll see what I can find once I get my puter all squared away.


11,556 posted on 05/29/2007 10:31:48 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: nature
Deeds are signed all the time by the parties. It's normally done at a closing AFTER the mortgage has been approved and it is attached as a lien.

But it is often done in the attorney's office when all the parties cannot or will not be present for the closing. Private mortgages are a little different. The property goes back to the original owner (not a bank)....just like Pindar said.

The TRANSFER occurs when the documents are RECORDED...Here in NY, it is the "click of the clock". Bahama law appears to be the same.

Regardless, the house cannot pass to *Howard and he was merely a guest and he has no legal standing. He has already been eliminated as the father of Dannie Lynn. *(That wedding bit may still play.)

He is not a resident and makes no claim to be and we will probably see the truth of that when he fails to appear for the inquest and cannot be required to do so.

Remember, his attorney said that if he was to attend the inquest, he has advised Howard to say "nothing". In other words, the statement that Anna made to the police will be construed (evidence) of "THE TRUTH"....(Created of course by Howard, "The Director".)

Show that picture of him feeding Anna through a straw again and again. That's Howard...and that's what he likely did the morning she died...Telling her that she needed fluids...Which by the way, Howard never mentioned AT ALL as being given to her on the day she died. She HAD TO BE dehydrated at the time so I'm SURE that KE would have told her to "drink fluids".

11,557 posted on 05/30/2007 5:11:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Rte66

“I still think there was supposed to *some* court action of *some* kind tomorrow on HKS’s appeal on the inquest, but for the life of me, I don’t know what it was supposed to be.”

Hi Rte...any word on this? I am anxious for things to get underway regarding the inquest!


11,558 posted on 05/30/2007 12:01:58 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Kimberly GG
I just keep showing up so the thread doesn't get lost. I think the matter of the Inquest not being "Constitutional" in form is still the question...with the right to question the jurists being the concern.

But I don't think that's the whole of it. Since the primary witness (Anna) is now DEAD, I think Howard wants the inquest to simply "go away" since there is no possibility of examining ANNA.

11,559 posted on 05/30/2007 3:22:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Kimberly GG
“I still think there was supposed to *some* court action of *some* kind tomorrow on HKS’s appeal on the inquest, but for the life of me, I don’t know what it was supposed to be.”

That is why I keep checking back on this thread I thought that remembered something about June 1st or 3rd.

11,560 posted on 05/30/2007 4:20:32 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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