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To: justthinkin

Yikes, the events you've cited were on vastly different dates and some non-related.

I know that Stern pilfered the EPM financials just recently - when they were here in Houston last - in 2005. It wasn't pivotal at all, it was inadmissible and should've gotten him disbarred, except it happened in TX and he's not a member of the bar here.

She filed the bankruptcy case in Jan 1996, but it wasn't heard until 1998 and the Marshall part of it extended it into 1999, then 2000, then forward from that.


9,434 posted on 03/23/2007 7:03:43 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

I am so sorry. I thought the only actual date I gave was 1991- the year Anna Nicole stated she first met HM.

My previous post must have been poorly worded and I apologize. I was just trying to think out loud and figured you would know with all your extensive work on the chronology.

Also, I read that she actually only lived under the same roof with Marshall a small part of the time she was married to him and spent some of the time during their marriage in CA house he purchased for her while she pursued a modeling/acting career.

On June 27, 1994, Smith, 26, and Marshall, 89, married in Houston.[22] This resulted in a great deal of gossip about her marrying him for his money.[23] Though she reportedly never lived with him,[24] Smith maintained that she loved her husband, and age did not matter to her.[citation needed] Thirteen months after his marriage to Smith, Marshall died on August 4, 1995, in Houston.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith#Marriage_to_Marshall

"Here is what jurors have been told
that J. Howard Marshall, II
gave to Vickie Lynn Marshall
during their entire relationship,
not just the marriage. $6,607,000

Modeling/Acting Clothes - $699,000
Jewelry - $2.804,000
LA House - $597,000
Mercedes - $82,000
Misc. Disbursments - $439,000
Ranch - $693,000
Ranch Furnishings - $230,000"

http://factweb.net/WhatVickie.html


"Within weeks of J. Howard Marshall's death, Smith and her husband's son, E. Pierce Marshall, battled over her claim for half of her late husband's US$1.6 billion estate. She temporarily joined forces with J. Howard's other son, James Howard Marshall III, whom the elder Howard had disowned. Howard III claimed J. Howard orally promised him a portion of his estate; like Smith, Howard III was also left out of J. Howard's will.[25] The case has gone on for more than a decade, producing a highly publicized court battle in Texas and several judicial decisions that have gone both for and against Smith in that time.[26]"

(I thought that it was sometime during this part of that case that Stern actually lifted the PM confidential document because it was presented in the bankruptcy case in CA.)

"In 1996, Smith filed for bankruptcy in California as a result of a $850,000 judgment against her for sexual harassment of an employee. As any money potentially due to her from the Marshall estate was part of her potential assets, the bankruptcy court involved itself in the matter.[27]"

And Judge Mike Wood in Houston admonished HSK for his action.

"In July 2001, Houston judge Mike Wood affirmed the jury findings in the probate case by ruling that Smith was entitled to nothing and ordered Smith to pay over $1 million in fees and expenses to Pierce's legal team."


As far as pivotal on the bankruptcy case, perhaps I misunderstood the importance of this statement:

"Stern transmitted the document to California where Bankruptcy Magistrate Samuel L. Bufford reportedly posted the protected document on his website to be viewed by the general public for a period. This incident and others by both Stern and Bufford continue to raise mysteriously unanswered questions about collusion between Anna Nicole’s attorneys and the Bankruptcy court in the California case."

http://factweb.net/SternReprimand.htm

My saying it was pivotal was perhaps misstated, but I thought maybe it was pivotal because of the following reasons:
1. "In 1996, Smith filed for bankruptcy in California as a result of a $850,000 judgment against her for sexual harassment of an employee." So if that document helped the LA judge to render the decision he did - I thought it was possibly pivotal in helping ANS to avoid paying out the $850,000 judgment.
2. "Smith claimed J. Howard orally promised her half of his estate if she married him and a Los Angeles bankruptcy judge awarded her $449,754,134," and the confidential document of assests of PM that was given to that court aided the LA judge in his decision. - Why I incorrectly thought that the document was pivotal in rendering that decision.
3. The decision rendered in Los Angeles bankruptcy court was used to continue litigation in probate court and appeals all the way to the Supreme Court hearing/decision.


More simply stated, maybe HKS entered the picture as early as when she was in CA living in house purchased for her by HM while they were still married (194-1995) and she went there to pursue modeling/acting.

And just was wondering if she could have even met HKS even earlier - like during her GUESS jeans endorsement (1993-1994) if she was in LA for any reason during the year(s) of that ad campaign on photo shoots, business meetings or whatever just prior to marrying Marshall.

Again, I am sorry for any misunderstanding and confusion I caused. I was just trying to think out loud in response to your post on dates and try to figure out when HKS might have entered the picture.

I will just keep thoughts like those to myself and let other posters, like yourself, who have done extensive research and organization that I appreciate and admire, share with us.
Thank you for all your work :)


9,585 posted on 03/23/2007 9:53:54 PM PDT by justthinkin
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To: Rte66

he may still face repercussions for that, RT

http://factweb.net/SternReprimand.htm

“The Court: All right. Mr. Stern, would you come up here, please?

This is on the record, Becky.

[at the bench]

The Court: You filed an affidavit dated October 27th in the [California] bankruptcy proceeding, attaching a copy of allegedly Pierce Marshall’s financial statement. You said you got it from Vickie Marshall’s trial counsel. Who was that?

Mr. Stern: I think I just got it from the [counsels’] table.

The Court: Were you aware that was subject to a confidentiality agreement?

Mr. Stern: It was not marked confidential…

The Court: A confidentiality order – this Court ordered that that document was confidential and could not even be introduced in evidence in this trial.

Mr. Stern: No, I was not aware of that.

The Court: Well, I want you to give your bar information to the Clerk, because I don’t think it’s possible that you could have been here for as much time as you have, with as much argument as there has been about that document, that you would pick it up off the table here and take it and violate this Court’s orders.

Mr. Stern: Okay, Your Honor

The Court: So give the Clerk your bar information. I am going to notify the bar in California, which is all I can do because you are not a member of the bar in this court, and since you are not a member of the bar in this court, you can’t come in front of the bar, because you apparently think it’s possible to pick things up off tables and take them out of here, so just stay behind the bar, if you would.

Mr. Stern: Sure, Your Honor.

Mr. Cunningham (another of Anna Nicole’s attorneys): Your Honor, may I –

The Court: We are in recess until 11:30.”



(heh-heh)


9,725 posted on 03/24/2007 3:53:01 AM PDT by blueplum ((don't lose the forest for the trees !! ))
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