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Thread Number Two
re: bridge’eeetee’ (she’s changed the enunciation)
feb15th Access Hollywood outs Bridgette:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah4073.shtml
‘just call me ‘Taz’ on 2/21/07 stated that ‘another person’ was in the suite when Moe called Taz, but mentioned no names
http://www.etonline.com/celebrities/news/44138/index.html
Tazmanian Devil on 2/22/07 mentions noone else, makes it sound like she’s alone, anna “too heavy to lift” (of course, by now, ‘just call me Moe’ has had twice as many interviews as ‘just call me Taz’, so, maybe Taz decides to spice it up a bit, and act like she’s a hero, too)
http://www.etonline.com/celebrities/spotlight/47123/index.html
Tony Potts, Access Hollywood video of bridgette and ‘king’ eric - at beginning and middle of video (in spite of the obvious condition of the sheets/bathroom) Bridge’eete’ claims ‘there was no throwing up, anything like that’
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player/?id=62561
(keep the videos autorunning to the next one, and yu’ll hear Goen brag that the funeral is to be coordinated with the Trimspa event)
Transcript: Fire Rescue Officials On Anna Nicole Smith’s Death (MP3)
POSTED: 5:45 pm EST February 8, 2007
UPDATED: 5:58 pm EST February 8, 2007
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This is the transcript of an exclusive telephone conversation between NBC 6 reporter Willard Shepard and the Fire Rescue team that responded to Anna Nicole’s room on Thursday afternoon.
Willard Shepard: What can you tell us about what transpired this afternoon at the Hard Rock facility?
Hollywood Fire Rescue Spokesman Matthew Phillips: Hollywood Fire Rescue received a phone call shortly after 2 o’clock to respond to the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino at the Seminole Indian Reservation in Hollywood, Fla. Upon arrival, our rescue crews were escorted to a guest room where they found an unresponsive female subject.
Phillips: At that time she was not breathing. We began our standard protocol of CPR and everything that goes with it. We then transported the female to Hollywood Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, Fla.
Willard Shepard: Was she still alive at the time she left the hotel?
Phillips: She was not breathing and she was not responsive when our rescue crews arrived at the hotel.
Shepard: Were the people who were with her able to give you any information about what transpired before she became unresponsive to them?
Phillips: I have received no information as far as any bystanders or whatever statements they were able to give to our rescue crews.
Shepard: Was she in the room alone?
Phillips: She was found by our rescue crew alone in the room and we were notified by her personal bodyguard.
Shepard: In a situation like this, give us some idea of what paramedics would have done when they arrived on the scene to assist her.
Phillips turns the phone over to Captain Fitzgerald who was in the room while paramedics were working on Anna Nicole Smith.
Captain Fitzgerald: Seminole rescue was already in the room with a lot of security ... also her bodyguard and her husband Howard Stern was on scene. He was concerned and was giving us her medical history.
Shepard: What was the situation with her when you arrived in the room?
Fitzgerald: Seminole rescue was attempting CPR. Hollywood rescue #74 stepped in and took over and inubated the patient ... that means put a tube down her throat. We started an IV, we pushed all medications, we took EKGs, we attempted to put in an external pacemaker for the heart, but we couldn’t get her heart beating.
Shepard: Was she alive when you arrived?
Fitzgerald: No. She was unconscious and not breathing.
Shepard: What did the family member and bodyguard tell you?
Fitzgerald: He put her on the floor and started CPR and called for help.
Shepard: What would be a standard procedure in a case like this?
Fitzgerald: We start with CPR, then we inubate and put a tube into the lungs so we can control the airway, we start in IV. There are certain medications we push automatically. There’s a whole list of medications and order that we do as far as the protocols go.
Shepard: Did she respond at all to anything you tried to do to help her?
Fitzgerald: No, not that I saw.
Shepard: And the family members, was there anything that they said to you about what transpired during the course of the morning or early afternoon that would have given you any indication that she could have experienced this kind of trauma?
Fitzgerald: No, we didn’t get any information. As far as we know she was left in the room and when they came back to the room she was not breathing.
Shepard: Is there anything else that you can add about what transpired in terms of your call and the time that you were there with her before she was transported to the hospital?
Fitzgerald: The inter-agencies worked real well together. Hollywood Fire Rescue and Seminole Rescue were on scene. Seminole security for the Hard Rock cleared the hallways to transport her downstairs and get her in the truck. All the agencies worked together as well as we could have given the circumstances. There was just no way of knowing how long she’d been down before she was discovered, which could make all the difference in the world. If you witness somebody pass out you can initiate care immediately. But if somebody passes out and it’s not witnessed, they can be there for 20 minutes or so before they’re found, it makes it a much more difficult scenario to work our protocols and be successful.
Shepard: So you don’t have any idea how long she could have been unconscious before you guys arrived.
Fitzgerald: No, we never did get that information.
Shepard: And it’s your belief that she was already deceased when you arrived on the scene.
Fitzgerald: That’s what it appeared.
So it appears that folks who administered the atropine had no idea how long she’d been dead. I mean she obviously hadn’t been there for days but it is misleading for perper to shift the determination of time of death to the first responders who administrated the atropine - making us believe that the responders would not have pushed the atropine if there was no hope for it to work because she had been dead too long. If the CPR didn’t pump the atropine - I don’t know how it got into the blood - cuz according to this guy her heart never started.
king eric went with stern, bridgette was waiting for them to return.
uknown whether king eric accompanied stern back to the hotel or where bridgette went from hotel? nite on boat????
unnamed male crewmember was reported to be a Gibson, King eric’s son (not shane)
(i believe that shane was helping momma Gibson clean out the Horizons of several suv loads of ‘baby items’ prior to the Thompsons arriving which was prior to Attue arriving)
(wayne monroe stated king eric and stern sailed back “alone” ??)
Paragraphs are helpful...
HAPPY EASTER EVRYONE1 Ice and snow in north Texas tonight!
That's interesting.
Ok, here’s some more amusement. Even though I posted the “Munsterns”, this should be sang in the tune of the “Addams Family”!
NOTE: “Although this silly blog song is inspired in part by a real song, the following ‘song lyrics’ are completely fictional and do not depict any actual person, persons, or events.” **Also, some names have been changed to protect the identities of the innocent or vulnerable.
Here is a new Anna Nicole Song for us. (Sing in the tune of “The Addams Family”):
The MUNSTERNS
They’re sneaky and they’re greedy
Calculating and needy
They’re altogether seedy
The MunStern Family.
Their house is not their own
They don’t even pay the loan
But when tourists come to roam
They slam the doors and moan
So you can’t see Connie on her broom
Howie howling at the moon
Or Gerry decorating his room
The MunStern Family
They keep the house filled with gloom,
And only let the baby see the moon,
They know they’re on their way out soon,
So they hire another goon.
The goon gets them what they’re after
More delays so they don’t have to answer
To the Two hanging from the rafter
The MunStern family
What scares them most of all
Are the ghosts that come to call
One a teenage boy that had no joy
And a Playboy model that became a toy
To the one member of the family who had no gall at all
So, the Ghosts are there to fight
To do what they know is right
Soon, it will all be over tonight,
And more ghosts will be there in flack.
And they’re all there to attack
If the Munsterns don’t give Dannielynn back
To her Rightful Family!!
We have snow and cold in New York, Rochester area. The opening game of the baseball season was cancelled because the seats and walkways were covered with ice and considered dangerous.
*** Howard says he called Moe to pick them up....so Howard was there alone with Anna***
If howard was alone with Anna, why was there an addl room with three beds? and medication set out in the 3-twinbed room? (so it was obviously used by someone!)(like stern?)(stern meds found in 3-twinbed room)
it has been speculated Mark Steines accompanied them from bahamas and was in the suite? ET private or commercial aircraft? Steines seemed to describe Wednesday’s ‘Anna found in empty tub’ in the first-hand? as opposed to Khrisvorkins’ ‘washing hair feelin fine’ version of wednesday? When did Steines leave to return Fri early am?
Erosovich flew in Mon nite?? Erosovich was at Horizons for 105 fever Sunday ice bath? did Erosovich fly in with Anna/Stern? why was it reported Erosovich was ‘flown in’ to treat Anna at hard rock? Moe stayed Monday nite? (moe said he got a bed because Khris left?) (but Eroshevich was placed in the room Wednesday by own statements and also Steines)
but bartender saw ‘bodyguard’ (moe) and ‘lawyer’ (stern) propping anna up carrying her to the bar to do double-shots early tues a’m (mon nite)?
by wednesday nite.thurs a.m., anna’s bathroom trashed with soiled towels, floor (condition of bathroom when stern took shower? (did he use ‘guest’ shower? not anna’s room??)
three guest beds - stern, steines, eroshevich/moe
one soiled unchanged-for-four-days-main bed - anna
MOE has more versions than Elizabeth taylor has ex-husbands-the truth will set his soul free
in the meantime, it’s off to the airlines for ticket purchase records.........and back to the hard rock for hallway tapes
See, I never felt like the jaw thing was actual rigor, for several reasons. However, we can’t be sure until we can determine from Brigitte or Tas exactly what position ANS was in when “discovered.”
If she had been face down (which most people don’t think is possible, considering her chest size), then it could’ve been her mouth was open and pressed into the pillow and the jaw “locked.” It might help explain the purple splotches on her upper chest and neck, which one of the finders mentioned (either Tas or Brigitte, I forget which) - some livor.
If she had been on her side, which is more probable, then the mouth falling open and the jaw locking are just as possible, but not done by gravity - more like a seizure and the tongue pushing it open. Splotches wouldn’t have been livor, but the throes of death and vessels bursting in places where the body had been damaged some other time, subcutaneously.
(Nothing in the autopsy report addressed these splotches in those areas, so I don’t know what they were.)
If she had been on her back, also probable, then the mouth falling open and staying open might or might not have been from the jaw locking. Could also have been gravity. Not sure how to explain the splotches, except again as being evidence of some long previous under-skin injury or surgery.
Now, the reason I didn’t think it was rigor when we first heard about it was because I didn’t think she could’ve been dead as long as we now feel is possible. I believed Tas had known her to be alive and breathing while she (Tas) was there in the room.
Eventually, when she was asked point blank, Tas said it was possible Anna could’ve been dead as long as 2 hours - she hadn’t ever actually talked to her or seen her move around.
In that case, perhaps it was rigor mortis - BUT I feel certain she would’ve been at the slowest end of the scale for rigor to develop. The jaw and face are definitely among the first (smallest) extremities to begin to develop it, but the time elapsed from death until rigor is faster the smaller the body is and more importantly, the more active the muscles were. The less active and the larger the mass, the longer it takes. Has something to do with lactic acid, which I can’t explain.
We know from the Yates children’s deaths that rigor had already set in in the oldest boy’s body when the cops got there, less than an hour later, because Andrea had chased him around the house and he had fought mightily in the bathtub. He was small and very active.
Anna was large and lethargic in comparison, so rigor would’ve developed more slowly. I’m thinking the 12 Noon estimate is on the late end of the window, maybe more like 10:30 or 11:00 or so - if, indeed, the ME (or someone knowledgeable, ahem) says that’s what the jaw stiffness most likely was.
Just one thing, maybe more later - Mark Steines was in Los Angeles and left on the ET private jet on Friday afternoon, with Khrisvorkian hitching a ride with him from L.A. right back to FL, where she had just come from the night before - probably having arrived wee hours that same morning.
KE had flown to FL with HKS and ANS, maybe Moe, too, on Monday evening, checking in 8:30PM. I think Tas was home in FL.
Hear, hear! And here’s to the Rightful Family! Bring it on! Great job!
Anna Nicole Gold Rush Continues
Craig R. Miner wasn’t exactly a fan of Anna Nicole Smith, the voluptuous former Playboy model who died in February.
But the 37-year-old Connecticut farmer does like money. When he was at his local bookstore a few weeks ago, he started flipping through “Patents, Copyrights and Trademarks for Dummies” and got the idea of trademarking celebrities’ names.
When Miner got home, he went to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Administration’s Web site and started searching names. “I hit a few names that were in and weren’t in … and I hit Anna Nicole Smith. And I applied for it. Ideally, I’d like to sell it.”
So far, Miner has not had any takers. Then again, he hasn’t had a chance to check his e-mail today because he’s been out on his tractor, checking the tobacco leaves that he grows.
In the end, Miner doesn’t have much of a chance of making any money off the famous name, say trademark attorneys.
“What’s clear is that someone not authorized by the estate has no right to trademark that person’s name,” says Paul van Slyke, an attorney who helped the Elvis Presley estate successfully sue the Velvet Elvis, a bar in Memphis.
All states have laws that protect the right of publicity. “During a person’s lifetime, we all have a right of publicity — nobody can use our identity, signature, picture and voice to advertise commercial products or interests,” says van Slyke.
Many states have postmortem statutes that extend that right after a person’s death, most notably, the Elvis Presley statute in Tennessee, a law the late singer’s estate lobbied the legislature to enact.
Van Slyke says that Anna Nicole Smith’s estate could either challenge the application for the trademark or, if Miner began to use it, sue him and attempt to recover the trademark application.
“I don’t want any trouble,” said Miner when informed about right of publicity laws. “That’s a marketable name. I’m not trying to do anything deceitful.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=3013144
Anna Nicole
Filing Date March 23, 2007
Owner (APPLICANT) Angela M. Arnone INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 11039 Arleta Avenue Mission Hills CALIFORNIA 91345
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: Dice games; Board games; Card games; Equipment sold as a unit for playing board games; Equipment sold as a unit for playing card games; Party games; Positionable printed toy figures for use in games; Positionable three dimensional toys for use in games; Positionable two dimensional toys for use in games; Printed positionable toys for use in children’s board games; Promotional game cards; Promotional game materials; Role playing games; Equipment sold as a unit for playing craps games
Regarding atropine being pumped by CPR - Found this from a responder in Oakland CA -
“This call was different, though. Neither the family nor my crew had any hope that we could save this patient, and in fact none of us had any real desire to try. But protocol is protocol, so we dragged him out of bed and into the kitchen where we would have space to work. The captain and the driver from my crew began CPR while the other firefighter and myself (both paramedics) went to work. I got down on the floor at the patient’s head, pried his mouth open with my laryngoscope and stuffed an endotracheal tube down his windpipe. The tube is more effective than a bag-and-mask system because it delivers pure oxygen directly to the lungs with no leakage. While I was securing the tube my partner had managed to insert a large-bore IV into the left arm. I called for epinephrine, 1 milligram, the front-line drug in most codes. I followed the epi with atropine, and we circulated both through the bloodstream with chest compressions. Every minute or so I stopped all the action and rechecked the heart monitor to make sure that the patient was still in flatline. We repeated the drug sequence one more time. The patient stayed dead, so we flipped off the monitor, stood up, stretched, and started clearing our mess. Only a coroner can touch a dead body after resuscitation efforts have failed, so we had to leave the poor guy naked and stuck full of tubes, lying on the linoleum. All because he never signed his “Do Not Resuscitate” form.”
did ya catch that - circulated atropine thru blood with chest compressions.
Hey, back when I was in college and we had “Easter Break” instead of Spring Break, I remember well an April Easter when I left Dallas driving south to home in lots of snow and totally ice-covered highways, halfway to Buffalo, at least.
Winter’s Last Hurrah for us. Shoot, our azaleas are long past peak and dead - from a month ago!
LOL....that put a smile on my face..right on!!
One drug was just a small pool and not circulated. Was that the drug?? Even with the compressions, it’s a closed system. Thing of one of those collapsed hoses used for watering. You’re going to stick a needle in it and pushed liquid into it...It’s not going to go far. The compressions would act as a syphon...trying to draw it into the system.
So many conflicting stories in all of this. I find it interesting that some interviews done immediately afterwards are now nowhere to be found except in transcripts on forums etc.
Even ET edited the video on their site of Bonnie and Gary the other day to take out the “Over Our Dead Bodies” statement.
It looks as tho this will be a “mysterious” death for many years to come. I just pray DL will get to be with LB soon if he is the father.
The PURPOSE of chest compressions during CPR is to provide blood flow.
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