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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

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To: Sacajaweau

I forget what show it was, maybe NG, who had a list of all the witnesses. There are 40 scheduled witnesses and guess who is number 40? Riiiight! Larry was around #36. There were something like 30 medical professionals from hospital that Daniel died in and the hospital that they took him too once he was dead.


12,781 posted on 03/27/2007 8:33:00 PM PDT by uncitizen (aka Snarky!)
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To: justthinkin

That's REALLY hard to pull off and there would be witnesses. Howard's has "NO WITNESS" scenarios.


12,782 posted on 03/27/2007 8:33:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: roses of sharon

Could it be that the handwriting was on the wall for a paternity test at some time in the near future and she was trying to detox because of that??

Or, they were trying to get her to detox because of the fact that Daniel had methadone in his system and, if Anna did too, she and Howard would be implicated??


12,783 posted on 03/27/2007 8:39:04 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I saw what OQ said about Daniel going to his mother for money - wonder what kind of proof he has? I have not been impressed with him thus far. Plus the PI said tonight that the retired FBI guy he spoke with and concluded that foul play was afoot worked for Virgie. I'm not quite sure what to think of this guy - but the fact that Daniel had his card on him makes me have to take some stock in what he says. This guy is a most pivotal witness if you ask me - I hope he is telling the truth. I also heard him say tonight something about an issue with Daniel and prescription meds of some sort per Ray Martino - he was calling him by name tonight.

Other things I found interesting tonight - the two ex-nannies will testify that Anna used to express that Howard was to blame for Daniel's death - no wonder he's shakin in his shoes.

Also - the TRIMSPA guy tried to say that the SLIMFAST belonged to and was used by KE - not Anna. He said the nicorette gum found was Howard's, not Anna's - and the Slimfast wasn't hers either. Now I don't know whether I believe him or not but it got me to thinking - if the Slimfast was hers - why not some of the drugs too. A Dr. probably can't perscribe to themselves - but she could prescribe it to them and get her share right?


12,784 posted on 03/27/2007 8:40:10 PM PDT by mommya
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah...I think I remember she was on the computer and I thought the computer was at a desk in Anna's room. IIRC


12,785 posted on 03/27/2007 8:41:30 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: mommya
Other things I found interesting tonight - the two ex-nannies will testify that Anna used to express that Howard was to blame for Daniel's death

Who said this?? I hadn't heard that before...

12,786 posted on 03/27/2007 8:44:48 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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Hi Everyone..my first post although I have been lurking for quite a while. I wanted to search for info about prison in the Bahamas and came across this page. This can certainly be researched further and probably should be. Fox Hill Prison is the only prison in the bahamas so that is the one HKS would be "visiting" if charged or found guilty! I posted just a little of what was said below but provided the link. If Bail is not available unless in minor cases and the prison conditions are as bad as I have read about then I would say the Daniel inquest and its' possible outcome has got to be the biggest worry to HKS. Would he have to sit in prison without bail waiting for trial? If that's not enough reason for motive after what I have read then I don't know what is. HKS knows methadone is against the law in the Bahamas and why he stated on the stand that ANS had not taken any in 5 months (thud...about the time they got to the Bahamas..how convenient!) His new attorney, Sanchez, admitted the methadone was in the refrigerator but "forgotten" about. I guess the Ford Shelly planted it story is out the window! The methadone shows up in the autopsy too and was taken 2-3 days before her death. You better believe HKS is shakin in his boots about all of this! It's just one of those things that make you go hmmmmm!

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61714.htm

Arrest and Detention


In general the authorities conducted arrests openly and, when required, obtained judicially issued warrants. Serious cases, including those of suspected narcotics or firearms offenses, do not require warrants where probable cause exists. The law provides that a suspect must be charged within 48 hours of arrest. Arrested persons appear before a magistrate within 48 hours (or by the next business day for cases arising on weekends and holidays) to hear the charges against them. Police can apply for a 48-hour extension upon simple application to the court and for longer extensions with sufficient showing of need. Some persons on remand claimed they were not brought before a magistrate within the 48-hour time frame. One suspect was held without charge in maximum-security prison from April to August until he pled guilty to crimes before being officially charged, claiming he wanted to avoid precharge and pretrial maximum-security detention. The government generally respected the right to a judicial determination of the legality of arrests.


Although there is a functioning bail system, the law prohibits bail for repeat offenders and those accused of certain violent crimes. Judges sometimes authorized cash bail for foreigners arrested on minor charges; however, in practice foreign suspects generally prefer to plead guilty and pay a fine rather than pursue their right to defend themselves, given possible delays in court cases and harsh conditions in the prison. Many foreign suspects paid bail and fled the country to avoid prosecution and extended detention.


Arrested persons may hire an attorney of their choice, but the government only provided legal representation to destitute suspects charged with capital crimes. In a 2003 report AI estimated that 41 percent of inmates did not have legal representation at their trial. Local legal professionals and human rights observers believed that this lack of representation risked hasty convictions on the basis of unchallenged evidence, particularly in the case of poor or illiterate defendants.


There were no reports of political detainees.


Attorneys and other prisoner advocates continued to complain of excessive pretrial detention (see section 1.e.). The constitution mandates that suspects can be held for a "reasonable period of time" before trial. Suspects commonly were held two to four years before they received a trial. In October a government report stated that 645 of the 1,500 prisoners at Fox Hill were awaiting trial. Prison officials estimated that approximately 100 pretrial prisoners had been on remand for over 2 years.

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Do some research on your own and let's see how worried we would all be if we were in his shoes! I don't feel sorry for him tho!!


12,787 posted on 03/27/2007 8:45:19 PM PDT by Luvlyness
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To: Sacajaweau

Based on ANS having methadone in her bile, I wish Judge Seidlin would issue a bench warrant for HKF for purjury.


12,788 posted on 03/27/2007 8:45:49 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TrishaSC

"Anna probably told Moe and Taz she had a pain in the ass...
but they probably thought she was just talking about Howie..heheh."

ROTFLMAO!




12,789 posted on 03/27/2007 8:47:39 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: KsSunflower
Could it be that the handwriting was on the wall for a paternity test at some time in the near future and she was trying to detox because of that??

Definitely. That probably had more to do with it than the Trimspa event. Both probably had something to do with it. But primarily it was the paternity issue.

Too bad Anna was held hostage in that room otherwise she could've told the truth about Daniel to the authorities, maybe at the expense of losing Dannielynn. But at least she was cleaning up her act. And i believe that if she were clean she and Larry would've gotten back together for their child. (it's late and maybe i'm not making sense)

12,790 posted on 03/27/2007 8:48:14 PM PDT by uncitizen (aka Snarky!)
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To: KsSunflower

It was said on Greta tonight when she was going over some of the witness list with Dr. Baden. They also commented though that we would have to wait and see how their testimony played out becuase they were fired by Anna or Howard - implying that it could taint the testimony. She has a witness list with summaries of what will be testified to and by whom - but said that sometimes things change in court and it doesn't always come out as written.

She also said there will be a statement of Anna's entered as testimony.

I find it hard to believe that KE is not on the list.


12,791 posted on 03/27/2007 8:49:54 PM PDT by mommya
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To: KsSunflower
She probably thought she was detoxing to keep the baby, (remember in that recent video, she was yelling at Ford, saying that LB was trying to take the baby away), and Stern and Dr told her they would take care of her during this detox.

Maybe Stern thought if she was sober enough to take on LB in a paternity/custody hearing, then she would be sober enough to testify in the inquest.
12,792 posted on 03/27/2007 8:51:11 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: mommya

Thanks...I hope to catch Greta at midnight here. Didn't KE arrive after Daniel died? Would that be the reason?


12,793 posted on 03/27/2007 8:52:44 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: KsSunflower

Greta and Dr. Baden were reading it in depositions tonight on the show,


12,794 posted on 03/27/2007 8:53:11 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Luvlyness

Welcome. Another good researcher is very welcome here.


12,795 posted on 03/27/2007 8:54:52 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: roses of sharon
Maybe Stern thought if she was sober enough to take on LB in a paternity/custody hearing, then she would be sober enough to testify in the inquest.

Ahhh, the proverbial rock and a hard place.

12,796 posted on 03/27/2007 8:56:09 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: KsSunflower

Maybe. But Larry B. volunteered himself to the inquest because he knew Daniel pretty well and wanted to offer his knowledge - wouldn't the good Dr. want to do the same?


12,797 posted on 03/27/2007 8:56:13 PM PDT by mommya
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To: Luvlyness

I predict HKS will be lying under oath yet again.


12,798 posted on 03/27/2007 8:56:42 PM PDT by uncitizen (aka Snarky!)
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To: mommya

Yeah, if it were just one of them saying it...but with two different nannies telling the same story, maybe it will help provide credibility for what they are saying. Do they know each other?


12,799 posted on 03/27/2007 8:57:54 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Who was saying yesterday that it seemed as if ANS was detoxing from Methadone while at the Casino hotel? Someone on Nancy Grace earlier tonight said THE EXACT SAME THING! I was not at the computer - heard this in other part of house and didn't manage to get the guy's name....maybe I'll come to it further ahead in the posts. Delurking for a moment. YES! I remember that thread (but not the brilliant mind behind it). It was a psychiatrist commenting on the drugs. He insisted that ANS had been withdrawing from methadone (and why was she, I wonder) and was being given sedatives to mitigate the symptoms. After all there were no anti-depressants, just anxiolytics (for treatment of anxiety). My background is in psychology. What got to me was that Perper insisted right back that the drugs in her system were anti-depressants. Fact is, anxiety can be a symptom of depression but anti-depressants are often used not only for depression but for treatment of anxiety and anxiety disorders as well. No one in their right mind would call anxiolytics anti-depressants. They can also have a depressive effect. I don't get it. Perper is a doctor. How can he makes such an elementary mistake? It's at this point that I lost all respect for him. And his grandstanding is finally so obvious and getting on my last nerve. Nice catch, FWI! You all are so amazing. Keep up the good work. Back to lurk mode!
12,800 posted on 03/27/2007 8:57:56 PM PDT by fluffytoo
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