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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: pnz1; scoobeedoo

Hypnotic is the mechanism of action for inducing sleep. It's not used in clinical hypnosis, that I'm aware of, if that's what you're asking.


12,081 posted on 03/26/2007 11:39:10 PM PDT by dezrat
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To: flaglady47

No, haven't had a chance to read it yet - just finished hurrying through copying all the 40 pages - still have T-storms and they bang and I start to shut everything down, then *nothing*.

Then when I start to surf or post, *bang* or *rumble* or *flash!*

Heh, wonder if it was their "special" duffel bag or if they bought new ones, lol. Oh, dear *bang!* Radar shows it's almost gone, but it's sure noisy here!

Ack, I can't stop everything now - the list is taking forever.

Well, anyway, we know now it was "Death By Azepam"!


12,082 posted on 03/26/2007 11:45:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: stlnative

From your link to the somking gun I looked at the hospital report. They have the time of her arrival as 12:23 isn't that alot earlier than the other timelines?


12,083 posted on 03/26/2007 11:45:39 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Mark


12,084 posted on 03/26/2007 11:46:31 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

No kidding! It should have said 14:23!


12,085 posted on 03/26/2007 11:48:11 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lizarde

A source has just told me that someone in the FBI
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sounds more like, a friend of a friend of a friend that knew someone who knew someone lol


12,086 posted on 03/26/2007 11:50:49 PM PDT by blueplum ((don't lose the forest for the trees !! ))
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To: All

anyone know what the "consensus" of this case over at DU is?


12,087 posted on 03/26/2007 11:57:05 PM PDT by MK11
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Perper addressed that in his presser, ANS wasn't revivable at the time she was discovered not breathing. Therefore, no one involved in resuscitation efforts are held liable for actions/inactions. Happens all the time and no one gets their license yanked or should.

PRIOR to that moment is a whole different ballgame.

Did Tasma institute proper CPR protocol? No, including no immediate EMS summons.


12,088 posted on 03/27/2007 12:10:48 AM PDT by dezrat
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To: theFIRMbss

That was not even funny.

That was sick as I am sure that fellow was.


Sorry I in severe pain and the big Docs want to open up my spine and look around...so humour is not easy...I want to cry or laugh but the pain won' allow so don't tell me off....I feel sorry in my heart that some fellow felt so desperate for help that he did that.

Fresh Oranges and strawberries with diet 7up (private request for table food at the Office, make sure the elevator works as I am riding a Quickie wheel chair)


12,089 posted on 03/27/2007 12:34:22 AM PDT by Global2010 ( I am the worst armchair slueth in America.)
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To: Lizarde

What happened?

I am so much in physical pain and working with my town helping by coming by to volenteer.

Boy do I feel like a big Jerk always been anal independant now I am overwhelmed by the good folks helping by doing simple loving acts.


12,090 posted on 03/27/2007 12:37:50 AM PDT by Global2010 ( I am the worst armchair slueth in America.)
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To: MK11

We have a few who can stomach DU but I can't...

I think you would have to be a brama bull with his scrotum wired tight to go there.


12,091 posted on 03/27/2007 12:41:18 AM PDT by Global2010 ( I am the worst armchair slueth in America.)
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To: flaglady47

"Did you all note that Perper mentioned amongst the things found in the ANS hotel room was a duffelbag w/drugs in it. Most likely the same duffelbag Larry Birkhead referred to that Howard Stern brought into the hospital room when ANS was detoxing in the hospital during her pregnancy. The duffelbag Stern was feeding ANS drugs out of when the doctors weren't medicating ANS enough, according to Larry. So, now the feelgood duffelbag turns up in ANS's death chamber, the hotel room at the Hardrock Casino."

Oh wow...how did I miss that? Is it part of the autopsy report somewhere?


12,092 posted on 03/27/2007 1:34:36 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: scoobeedoo

"The guest bedroom has 3 beds..

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and the medications were in the second bedroom....now, why would Stern's prescriptions be in the second bedroom if he was in Anna's bedroom? was he really sleeping with Anna? or was he relegated to the 'guest room' by Anna? were they staged there? (see? they're not anywhere nearrrr Anna?)


12,093 posted on 03/27/2007 1:35:18 AM PDT by blueplum ((don't lose the forest for the trees !! ))
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To: Jrabbit

"ick, ick, ick! Was her butt sore draining? Was that what stained the sheets?? According to autopsy, she had an a$$ full of cysts. Massive gross out!"


IIRC the absesses were all beneath the surface, not visible to the eye...it wasn't until KE told Perper that she was having butt pain, that Perper went back and 'cut her open' there, that he was able to see the absesses, at least thats per Dr. Perper...but the autopsy took what, 6 hours? I don't remember hearing that more work was done on her after the original autopsy, but it sounds like Perper is saying.


12,094 posted on 03/27/2007 1:43:46 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: An American In Dairyland

"Mark Fuhrman said on H&C that this isn't a "Quincy" show and ME's don't go around investigating crime scenes and interviewing witnesses usually. He said that is the job of the police and their investigators. I've been wondering why Perper has been getting so involved in every aspect of this including his constant phone calls to Seidlin's courtroom and his "guarding" ANS' corpse and "escorting" her body to the Bahamas for her funeral."

I've questioned this as well, why was he permitted to be so involved in this investigation, if it's not the 'norm' for a ME? And so then I have to question, how much control did he have over the police investigation and the final decision to call this 'accidental'. Though he 'allowed' Tiger to give the manner of death statement first, Perper ran the show yesterday and questions to Tiger seemed awfully limited. All along it seemed he was caught up in the 'celebrity' of it all and I wonder how much Perper was influenced by the involvement of HKS's new criminal attorney in the investigation. She said she literally sat down with Perper personally and helped him to go through all the emails. The vast majority of the 'history' portion of Perper's statement was based solely on the information he was given by HKS and KE. But Fuhrman and Guilfoile really pushed last night that there is still a possibility of criminal culpability and the Florida investigation might even be reopened based on what comes out in the inquest.


12,095 posted on 03/27/2007 2:01:13 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: TexKat
I have a question...

How does the M.E. resolve the fact that ANS allegedly took some Chloral Hydrate around 10 a.m. the morning of her death BUT everyone now knows that Chloral Hydrate can not be found in the body after about 4 minutes after taking it?

12,096 posted on 03/27/2007 2:14:20 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: All

Did anyone hear if any American 'news' network will have access to being inside for the inquest?


12,097 posted on 03/27/2007 2:27:17 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

How is this possible...
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I think we're all asking this question...

not once was it taken into consideration that an individual with (as Stern put it) 'a sixth grade education' may not be capable of fully understanding drug interactions, and, therefore, necessarily relied on those around her to inform her, even if she was 'a grown woman'....

nor were the Khrisvorkian faxes taken into consideration although much was made of Anna's proported 'doctor shopping'

I, for one, was appauled at the typos, inconsistencies, and ambiguities contained in the report, considering they had 6 weeks to prepare the document and considering they had video evidence of Moe, Taz, Stern and Eroshevich statements (purjury?) as to timeline/events.

...this is reminding me of the Doris Duke case..with Stern as the butler

Perhaps the Bahamian judicial system can bring additional evidence to light ?
If not, then it's off to Civil Court and a boycott of Florida and the "Hard Rock" ?


12,098 posted on 03/27/2007 2:37:07 AM PDT by blueplum ((don't lose the forest for the trees !! ))
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To: blueplum

"I, for one, was appauled at the typos, inconsistencies, and ambiguities contained in the report, considering they had 6 weeks to prepare the document and considering they had video evidence of Moe, Taz, Stern and Eroshevich statements (purjury?) as to timeline/events."

Considering Sanchez could neither read nor speak well and seemed only vaguely familiar with the particulars of the case, perhaps along with assisting Perper in the review of all the emails, she also helped him write his report?


12,099 posted on 03/27/2007 3:16:23 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Kimberly GG

Greta said Fox will have people there. Did you see her interview with the Chief MAgistrate yesterday? He gave her a tour of the inquest room and explained how the procedure will go.


12,100 posted on 03/27/2007 3:20:29 AM PDT by uncitizen (sometime sufferer of foot in mouth disease)
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