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Teen Fights Removal of Bullet in Head
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/21/6 | JUAN A. LOZANO

Posted on 12/21/2006 1:03:41 PM PST by SmithL

Port Arthur, Texas -- In the middle of Joshua Bush's forehead, two inches above his eyes, lies the evidence that prosecutors say could send the teenager to prison for attempted murder: a 9 mm bullet, lodged just under the skin.

Prosecutors say it will prove that Bush, 17, tried to kill the owner of a used-car lot after a robbery in July. And they have obtained a search warrant to extract the slug.

But Bush and his lawyer are fighting the removal, in a legal and medical oddity that raises questions about patient privacy and how far the government can go to solve crimes without running afoul of the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.

"It's unfortunate this arguably important piece of evidence is in a place where it can't be easily retrieved," said Seth Chandler, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center. "You have to balance our desire to convict the guilty against the government not poking around our bodies on a supposition."

Investigators say that Bush was part of a group of gang members who broke into a used car lot and tried to steal vehicles. According to police, Bush tried to shoot businessman Alan Olive, and when Olive returned fire, a bullet struck the teenager and borrowed into the soft, fatty tissue of his forehead.

Prosecutor Ramon Rodriguez said gang members who took part in the robbery identified Bush as one of those involved. When he was questioned about a week later, Bush admitted taking part in the robbery but not the shooting, police said.

"The officers noticed the guy looks like hell. One of his eyes is black and he has a big old knot on his forehead," Rodriguez said. "He tells police he got hurt playing basketball."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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1 posted on 12/21/2006 1:03:43 PM PST by SmithL
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Mr. Olive should've been carrying a .45 ;-)


2 posted on 12/21/2006 1:06:49 PM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: 300magnum
Mr. Olive should've been carrying a .45 ;-)

Or, aimed for the torso.
3 posted on 12/21/2006 1:08:54 PM PST by Spruce
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To: SmithL
"soft, fatty tissue on his forehead"????

Huh?

4 posted on 12/21/2006 1:10:21 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: 300magnum

AMEN to that!

Also, they should just keep the kid in jail for the robbery until he begs them to remove the bullet, then they just retrieve it and take it to the grand jury for an attempted murder charge.


5 posted on 12/21/2006 1:13:33 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: 300magnum

Yeah, but the gov't shouldn't be able to force someone to submit to surgery. I'd like to see the kid rot in jail if he's guilty, but this would seem like a violation of the 5th amendment, of sorts.


6 posted on 12/21/2006 1:15:55 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: patton

As seen on TV...Fat Head.


7 posted on 12/21/2006 1:17:04 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: TheKidster
Also, they should just keep the kid in jail for the robbery until he begs them to remove the bullet, then they just retrieve it and take it to the grand jury for an attempted murder charge

All the inmates would call him "Bullethead" or "Bullethead Bush"

8 posted on 12/21/2006 1:18:23 PM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: patton
Huh?
My thoughts exactly... Is the guy a Klingon?
9 posted on 12/21/2006 1:18:29 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: patton

Hollow point flattened upon impact, but failed to penetrate his skull perhaps? Odd story indeed.


10 posted on 12/21/2006 1:18:39 PM PST by Enosh
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To: 300magnum
Mr. Olive should've been carrying a .45 ;-)

I'm ashamed to say that that was almost my first thought. "If he'd been using a .45 ACP...."

I don't see the warrant as unreasonable. They have good cause to believe the bullet is buried in his forehead and that it may be critical evidence in a trial.
11 posted on 12/21/2006 1:18:49 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: SmithL

It seems from the article that the fact that a bullet is indeed lodged in Bush's forehead has not yet been established, which means that the title of this article is a bit misleading.


12 posted on 12/21/2006 1:20:26 PM PST by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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"We know he's not a criminal," she said. "He's a good kid."
LOL!!! A bit hard headed, but a good kid who just happens to have a bullet in his head.
13 posted on 12/21/2006 1:22:13 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: SmithL

"soft fatty tissue of his forehead"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


14 posted on 12/21/2006 1:23:11 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (When music is banned, only the bands will have music.)
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To: JamesP81

I don't see the warrant as unreasonable.

In this case probably not but I sure don't want to give the govt. a precident to perform surgery on suspects in order to obtain suspected evidence. Give them that power, and it can only lead to a very bad and dark place eventually. Sometimes it's better to let a case go than set up future generations for who knows what horrors politicians will visit upon them.


15 posted on 12/21/2006 1:24:28 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: SmithL
raises questions about patient privacy

Once the formerly private citizen has entered the system, privacy, such as it is or was, is over.

16 posted on 12/21/2006 1:25:43 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: TheKidster
In this case probably not but I sure don't want to give the govt. a precident to perform surgery on suspects in order to obtain suspected evidence.

Good point. If they can do this, what's to stop them from eventually demanding that every citizen have his DNA on file?
17 posted on 12/21/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: RightWhale
Once the formerly private citizen has entered the system, privacy, such as it is or was, is over.

He's not been convicted of any crime. You do not deprive of rights without a conviction. This is the road to a police state.
18 posted on 12/21/2006 1:26:55 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: SmithL

Let him keep the bullet in his head.

But I see no need to give him antibiotics if it gets infected.


19 posted on 12/21/2006 1:27:45 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: JamesP81
what's to stop them

That point was passed long ago. Everybody who ever got a driver's license or went to public school or walked on a public right of way or got a job working for a corporation or voted or anything else other than being born at home and staying on the property forever is public.

20 posted on 12/21/2006 1:30:19 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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