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Jews ponder Moses [ Encyclopaedia Judaica ]
North County Times ^ | Thursday, December 14, 2006 | Richard Ostling

Posted on 12/16/2006 4:25:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Rabbi S. David Sperling, isn't certain that Moses even existed or, if he did, whether the Bible provides much reliable information about him. Sperling contends that if traditional accounts of the origins of Judaism had not recorded a founder, "analogy would have required postulating him; and that is probably what happened" when ancients wrote the Bible... The introduction to Moses' life from another writer says "we cannot really reconstruct a biography of Moses. We cannot even be sure that Moses was a historical character." ...Conservative Judaism's official Torah commentary (2001) states that what should concern Jews is "not when, or even if, Moses lived, but what his life conveys in Israel's saga." It calls Moses a "folkloristic, national hero." This fading Moses, of course, departs radically from long-standing tradition. The "13 Principles" of the revered 12th-century sage Maimonides, for example, insisted that Moses lived as Judaism's supreme prophet through whom God gave the Torah. And the Book of Exodus, of course, recounts Moses' career in considerable detail... Orthodox Rabbi Shalom Carmy of New York's Yeshiva University... observes that liberals hold the biblical text "doubted until independently proven true," while for fellow traditionalists "it is true unless conclusively disproved."

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ccc; exodus; godsgravesglyphs; moses
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To: Fred Nerks; blam

I have also thought that the 1450 destruction of the Minoans may have been part of crop failures and other disruptions by the vulcanism I want more information on. This would have caused freebooting and invasions by hungry people.


61 posted on 12/19/2006 6:47:17 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
"I have not come to any conclusions yet about 1159 BC, but am still looking."

I have some info in a book, I'll go see if I can dig it out.

62 posted on 12/19/2006 7:02:04 PM PST by blam
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To: gleeaikin
Professor Mike Baillie says that the ice cores show a 'Hekla 3' event at 1159BC but he says it wasn't large enough to cause the worldwide event recorded in the tree-rings. He is suggesting a possible impact from a comet fragment at around the same time. It's the time of the David plague, the end of the Shang Dynasty and etc.
63 posted on 12/19/2006 7:24:27 PM PST by blam
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New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 07/29/2004 3:25:45 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
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64 posted on 12/27/2006 5:02:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I updated my profile Saturday, December 23, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I picked up a video at the library on the Exodus. It was pretty stunning. The thesis of this was that the parting of the sea actually was on the other side of Saudi Arabia.

It also showed some underwater photography of chariot wreckage and from the wheel design it could be dated back to Moses time. Most of the wheels where encrusted with coral but there was one that was brass plated that was very well preserved.

This is all in Mussie land so it is unlikely that permission will ever be granted to examine it closer. Probably if you picked anything up from under the sea you'd be shot immediately or worse.

Also the underwater geography make it so that there is a shallow 'walkway' exactly where you could walk across. Also the description of the land fits the bible to a tee.

I guess it is obvious that I thought it was convincing.


65 posted on 01/21/2007 11:09:57 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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It also showed some underwater photography of chariot wreckage and from the wheel design it could be dated back to Moses time. Most of the wheels where encrusted with coral but there was one that was brass plated that was very well preserved.
The brass plated one was a replica, purpose-built for the show. Think about the coral formations -- the claim is that just the wheels and axle survived, set on one end, while the body of the chariots rotted away, and then got covered in coral.
66 posted on 01/22/2007 8:46:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


67 posted on 09/12/2011 12:39:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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