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Bikers Playing Fast and Loose
LA Times ^ | 11.29.06 | Ralph Vartabedian

Posted on 11/30/2006 10:29:41 AM PST by absolootezer0

A Suzuki racing bike screaming at 80 mph in a 25-mph zone slammed into Gigliotti on Oct. 4 as she was leaving her job at Long Beach City College, igniting a fireball inside her Ford Escort.

"It is not uncommon to see these kinds of accidents with motorcycles, particularly high-powered super bikes," said Raymond Dennison, the Long Beach detective who investigated the crash. "The whole function is to go as fast as they can."

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To: mutley
80 is hardly screaming. 180mph is screaming.

Depends on the road.

81 posted on 11/30/2006 11:17:15 AM PST by atlaw
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To: MortMan
The author, on the other hand, needs to learn a thing or to about reporting, rather than polemicizing


since he works for the LASLIMES thats not gonna happen anytime soon...

82 posted on 11/30/2006 11:17:33 AM PST by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: kempo

"Its like saying I didn't see that Yield Sign."

Except yeild signs don't travel and 100 mph.


83 posted on 11/30/2006 11:18:44 AM PST by L98Fiero (The media as a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: absolootezer0


84 posted on 11/30/2006 11:18:55 AM PST by discipler (Shi Tao gets 10 yrs. Revealed China's plan to control the media on Tiananmen 15th Anniversary)
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To: atlaw

IN a 25 mph zone it is.


85 posted on 11/30/2006 11:19:34 AM PST by discipler (Shi Tao gets 10 yrs. Revealed China's plan to control the media on Tiananmen 15th Anniversary)
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To: GOP_1900AD

when I was working as an EMT, in my off crews, we called these guys "Future Organ Donors"


86 posted on 11/30/2006 11:19:35 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Triggerhippie

I don't believe the coyote WANTED his Acme rocket sled to crash into a mesa, either. But is was a foreseeable probability.


87 posted on 11/30/2006 11:20:02 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: mutley

"80 is hardly screaming. 180mph is screaming."

I'd be screaming long before 180.


88 posted on 11/30/2006 11:20:58 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: tx_eggman
Nothing makes it stop faster than going from 80 to 0 in an instant ... like the Darwin candidate in this article did.

Taking himself out of the gene pool makes him a Darwin candidate.

Killing an innocent women, on the other hand, just makes him a scumbag.

89 posted on 11/30/2006 11:21:19 AM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: bagadonutz
typical anti-rider story. She pulled out in front of the bike and he's at fault?

Any accident that involves a vehicle doing 80 in a 25 is at least partially the fault of the guy doing 80.

Ask any rich personal injury lawyer who specializes in car accidents.

90 posted on 11/30/2006 11:22:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out)
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To: kempo
Its like saying I didn't see that Yield Sign.

Except the yield sign wasn't going 80 mph. I bike going that fast was not in the location that a reasonable peron would look for approaching traffic, and , depending on the intersection, may not have been visible at all at the time she made the decision to pull out.

Legally they're both at fault.

I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt it.

91 posted on 11/30/2006 11:25:14 AM PST by Gil4 (This tagline for rent - cheap!)
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To: faloi

I agree with you, but as a lifelong rider, I am more concerned about the lack of riding skill possesed by some Harley posers who buy Harleys to feel manly. Say "countersteer" to a group of Harley riders and one may know what it means. Do the same to a group of sportbikers, and a lot of them could probably describe it. There are posers on sportbikes, too, but the nature of them kills off the idiot much faster.


92 posted on 11/30/2006 11:26:09 AM PST by FNG
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To: conservativeharleyguy

Mandatory insurance forces people to share risks. Since the risk is shared, some people then take on greater risks because they don't have to bear the entire cost of their risky own behavior. For some reason insurance companies are not real impressed with risk takers.

Those of us in the non-motorcycle community call guys who do 80 in a 25 mph zone assholes regardless of their ride.


93 posted on 11/30/2006 11:26:25 AM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Old Professer

"If those things were made to be ridden on the back wheel the steering fork wouldn't be in the front."

That's just there so you have something to rest the bike on when it's parked.

:0>


94 posted on 11/30/2006 11:27:41 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: taxed2death

yell it from the handlebars brother...ditto all that as I've owned 24 bikes so far......oh and not one was a Harley. Why I notice is the new bike- go fast attitude of the article's intention. New is bad and NEW is too fast
so it says but I am reminded and agree of a piece in MOTORCYCLIST by the great Mitch Boehm back in the day when the Honda CBR 6oo was in her 2nd generation. Mitch reminded that while test riding the bike and marveling her
power to speed he said " hell an old Honda Hurricane is
still more bike than 98% of all riders can handle."

It ain't the power of the bullet,it's the brains of the shooter.


95 posted on 11/30/2006 11:28:01 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Those of us in the non-motorcycle community call guys who do 80 in a 25 mph zone assholes regardless of their ride.

Bingo.

96 posted on 11/30/2006 11:28:28 AM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: atlaw

"Depends on the road."

Not really. It assumes the road is ridable at 80. And if so, it's like going 40 in your car. 80 simply isn't fast on one of these bikes.


97 posted on 11/30/2006 11:29:51 AM PST by mutley
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To: advertising guy

"hell an old Honda Hurricane is
still more bike than 98% of all riders can handle."

Agree 100%. There are very very few (Sport) bikes on the road today that can be used to their full potential by anyone (on the street. Certainly not by this middle aged beer bellied rider.

;)


98 posted on 11/30/2006 11:32:17 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: absolootezer0
coulda been worse, imagine if it was an oversized harley doing 100mph hitting the car. much worse impact.

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I'm no physicist but how much worse could the impact of a 500lb Suzuki GSX be than that of this 680lb "oversized" harley??

99 posted on 11/30/2006 11:34:35 AM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: kempo

but the driver of the car can't get off the hook by saying I didn't see the motorcycle



I agree with the principle, but not when the cycle is going 3x+ the posted limit. 2x the limit, maybe the car should be able to see or anticipate.


100 posted on 11/30/2006 11:35:35 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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