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Accuser in Duke lacrosse case wanted money, man says (DukeLax Ping)
Raleigh News & Observer ^ | November 4, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet, Joseph Neff and Anne Blythe

Posted on 11/04/2006 1:31:54 AM PST by abb

Joseph Neff, Benjamin Niolet and Anne Blythe, Staff Writers DURHAM - Four days after she said she was raped, the accuser in the Duke lacrosse case told co-workers at a Hillsborough strip club that she was going to get money from some boys at a Duke party who hadn't paid her, the club's former security manager said.

"She basically said, 'I'm going to get paid by the white boys,' " H.P. Thomas, the former security manager at the Platinum Club, said in an interview Friday. "I said, 'Whatever,' because no one takes her seriously."

On March 14, the woman said she was assaulted and raped by three men at a lacrosse team party that began late on the night of March 13. Three players -- David Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells N.J. -- have been charged with rape, sexual assault and kidnapping. All three have declared their innocence and called the accusations lies.

Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong declined to comment on Thomas' recollections. Thomas said he had not previously come forward on the advice of lawyers.

Nifong has said in court that nearly a month after the party, the woman was in his office and appeared too traumatized to talk about what had happened to her. Nifong said that throughout the April 11 meeting with Nifong and police investigators, the woman seemed near tears and had trouble making eye contact.

But less than a week after the party, Thomas said, the woman seemed fine, and weeks later, he realized a friend of his had a video of her dancing at the club in the early hours of March 26.

The accuser never gave any indication that the party was a bad time, let alone that she was assaulted or raped, Thomas said.

"She was as regular as pie," Thomas said. "She didn't do anything different."

The News & Observer generally does not identify the complainants in sexual assault cases. The woman could not be located for comment Friday.

On March 17, the woman showed Thomas a hospital bracelet and paperwork. While she talked about being owed money, the accuser never gave any word or indication of being hurt, he said.

"The other girls would have known if something had happened," Thomas said. "If another dancer had been beat up or raped by a bunch of white boys, there would have been a ruckus."

Records show she had been seen at Duke and UNC Hospitals on March 14 and 15.

Thomas said dancers must sign in when they take guests into the club's VIP room. He said those sheets show that the woman had signed in March 17 and 18. He said she also danced the following weekend.

The club's owner, Victor Olatoye, said the club's records show the woman was dancing at the club March 23, 24, 25 and into the early hours of March 26. Olatoye has no record of her working the previous weekend.

Olatoye said he had given a sworn statement to an investigator in Nifong's office last month initially saying that he had not seen the woman since February.

That night at the club, Olatoye checked his records and called the investigator back to change his sworn statement.

Olatoye said he has not seen the woman since March.

Thomas said he worked as security manager at the club from January through April. He said he had little to gain by coming forward because of a pending cocaine possession charge. Staff writer Joseph Neff can be reached at 829-4516 or jneff@newsobserver.com.


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To: maggief

http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2006/11/06/Editorial/Cheek.For.District.Attorney-2441315.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com
Editorial

11/6/06
Cheek for district attorney


161 posted on 11/06/2006 6:19:00 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Ready4Freddy

She filed the complaint long ago.

She is talking now because she is safely out of the Fong's reach.


162 posted on 11/06/2006 6:19:00 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
Right, why risk getting Fonged!
163 posted on 11/06/2006 6:20:50 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: ltc8k6

This is probably just the tip of the iceberg out of the DA's office with that moron running it....

Maybe others will feel safe to talk now.


164 posted on 11/06/2006 6:20:54 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
I am not sure if they will talk. Many of them are probably like Nifong in that this is the only place that would take them. Nifong keep quiet while Stevens and Hardin where there so expect many of them to do the same.
165 posted on 11/06/2006 6:24:08 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: maggief

Wow. I didn't refresh my screen quick enough. It wasn't there when I posted some 3 1/2 minutes later. Not that I wanted to see it anyway... :-)


166 posted on 11/06/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: abb

Bump!!


167 posted on 11/06/2006 6:24:50 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: ltc8k6
Sorry, I should have been more clear - she complained to Nifong some time ago, apparently, but 'filed' (if an oral complaint is considered filing) w/ the AOC just last Friday, according to the entry on Durham-In-Wondeland.

She filed the complaint long ago.

168 posted on 11/06/2006 6:27:19 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; abb

Anyone want to place bets that the defense attorneys are already interviewing the ADA who just filed the sexual harassment complaint?


169 posted on 11/06/2006 6:31:20 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
What Cash and others seems to forget (and I like him) is that the rest of the country regards the trial phase as the end of an investigation. We do not see a trial as the forum to determine if a crime even took place.

If that doesn't sum it all up for me, I don't know what else does.

The crazy cast of characters, including Nifong and MILFMAN Shouldn't matter in the least---The bottom line is there is NO evidence of any crime having taken place. How do three men get indicted for a non-crime? I guess that's where the cast of characters comes in.

170 posted on 11/06/2006 6:33:22 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Kerry supports the troops by insulting them)
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To: All

It is instructive that Ashley Cannon chose to speak on the record to a "blog" instead of the HeraldSun or the NandO. She knows who to trust, evidently.


171 posted on 11/06/2006 6:38:32 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: TommyDale
I am not sure how much she will be willing to revel about her involvement in all this mess. But it might be interesting if she knows about anything Destine said to Nifong to keep this farce going.
172 posted on 11/06/2006 6:39:12 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: TommyDale
I'm sure that they'd love to interview her, but she's still going to be an ADA w/ another County (2 Counties, actually). It's not her job to help the defense, and she could run into some serious consequences if she says too much.

The time for her to talk is at Nifong's disbarment hearing.

Anyone want to place bets that the defense attorneys are already interviewing the ADA who just filed the sexual harassment complaint?

173 posted on 11/06/2006 6:40:02 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: abb
I bet she told KC exactly what she told the papers. And I bet the papers omitted who did it like they omitted that Crystal said Kim robbed her.
174 posted on 11/06/2006 6:44:59 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Ready4Freddy

It may not be her jobe to help the defense, but it is her job to seek truth and justice. If she knows of misconduct in the Durham DA's office (and we all know she does), she should come forward and help get the charges dropped. That is the least she could do, under the circumstances.


175 posted on 11/06/2006 6:46:41 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: abb
Tough to say, abb. The N&O article (linked by DIW) at:

http://www.newsobserver.com/145/story/506921.html

says "A former Durham prosecutor said Sunday" and "Cannon said in an interview Sunday".

That article is time-stamped 12:30 AM & 2:12 AM this morning, whereas KC's entry was at 8:12 AM. The N&O article was obviously up first.

176 posted on 11/06/2006 6:49:49 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: TommyDale; Protect the Bill of Rights; All

Important to note again:

FINESSE G. COUCH, Individually and asAdministratrix
of the Estate of Carnell Simmons Couch
Plaintiff,
v.
PRIVATE DIAGNOSTIC CLINIC and DUKE UNIVERSITY,
Defendants.

Appeal by defendants from judgment entered 3 March 1997 by Tillery, J., inSuperior Court, Durham County. Heard in the Court of Appeals 22 September1998.

(Willie) Gary, Williams, Parenti, Finney, Lewis, McManus, Watson & Sperando, byMaria P. Sperando and Keith A. Bishop, for plaintiff-appellee.


177 posted on 11/06/2006 6:53:12 AM PST by maggief
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To: TommyDale
I understand your position, TD, but it would be asking a lot of her to go public at this point. She could lose her Bar card over it. Her testimony in an investigation pursuant to a disbarment might be helpful, but I doubt that she's got any info that in and of itself would tip the scales toward dropping the indictment.

Tho she might be able to talk to the Judge off the record...

...she should come forward and help get the charges dropped. That is the least she could do, under the circumstances.

178 posted on 11/06/2006 6:55:26 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Ready4Freddy

LOL! Under the circumstances, what Bar would uphold Nifong and disbar Ashley Cannon? I'm sure she is smart enough to know how to leak any pertinent information, if she hasn't already, through someone here. Think about it.


179 posted on 11/06/2006 6:57:21 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: maggief

Am I jumping to conclusions to think there could be a connection between Jarriel's deceased brother (lawsuit?) and Couch's deceased brother? Has anyone looked into whether both families have filed lawsuits for wrongful death?


180 posted on 11/06/2006 7:05:04 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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