Posted on 10/25/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by BILL_C
Its fall, the temperature is falling, the leaves are turning and with November here, we have some repeats to watch on the cable networks.
The History Channel will show one of their favorites, ABCs documentary Beyond Conspiracy featuring Peter Jennings and a computer animation which shows a bullet that hit President Kennedys back four inches below his collar but then the bullet allegedly exited his neck after nicking the upper part of the knot of his tie, and then it goes down at approximately a 25 degree down angle to hit Governor Connally in his back. Its amazing what computers can show.
Well also most likely see the Discovery Channels explanation of the assassination in Beyond the Magic Bullet. This show also features Dale Meyers computer animation, the same one used in Beyond Conspiracy. The show goes beyond the previous documentary as the producers go to Australia to get an expert shooter to attempt to duplicate the magic bullet, the shot that hit both JFK and Governor Connally. The shots they fire are aimed at figures composed of material which act like human muscle and bone when a bullet is fired into them.
Both of these shows think they proved the magic bullet theory is true.
Watch the digitized and stablilized Zapruder Film
The Closeup Zapruder Film with Frame #
For over 40 years weve heard and seen documentaries which talk about strange details in the JFK assassination investigation and reports. We first had the Warren Commission appointed by President Johnson with the main purpose to show that a lone gunman fired three shots at the limousine and wounded JFK, Governor Connally and a bystander too. We then had the House Subcommittee on Assassinations investigation in 1978 which investigated additional evidence in part because the Zapruder film was first shown to the American public on night TV in 1975. One of the newer pieces of evidence was the finding that the Dallas Police radio channel recorded a stuck open microphone during the time of the assassination and may have actually recorded the actual gunshots.
In 1991 the movie JFK again ignited the publics curiosity about the assassination with back and to the right along with witnesses saying they saw another gunman. The government again responded and gave us the Records Review Act which released even more information about the murder. In 1997, the Zapruder film was digitized and now we can see even more details in the film. And in 2001, a statistical analysis was published concerning the Dallas Police recording with the finding there were five shots captured by the recording. A gunshot and its reflections off objects is like a fingerprint in that its fairly unique and dependent on where the shooter is and where the microphone is that captured the sounds, and the objects such as buildings that the sounds reflect off of.
Although weve heard about discrepancies for years in documentaries such as the Men Who Killed Kennedy, weve also had some documentaries disappear from the airways as the History Channel found them not to be accurate such as the Guilty Men, a documentary that fingered Vice-President Johnson and other cronies in a Texas murder ring.
The story in my opinion will not die as so many of the facts dont seem to fit reality. We need to see something that makes sense.
Last year I met with one of the best known critics of the Warren Commission. I showed Dr. Cyril Wecht that one assumption made in the killing had led virtually everyone to make incorrect conclusions in the case. That assumption is that all of Governor Connallys wounds were caused by one bullet when in fact Governor Connally was wounded by two separate shots which were both fired from the Texas School Book Depository. Dr. Wechts questions and observations led me to do more research which Im still working on.
But what I want to show you today is when Governor Connally was wounded, something that has never been shown correctly on any of the documentaries or in any of the books that Ive reviewed. You see, experts such as Dr. Wecht have been arguing about what did not happen. Instead, lets show you what actually did happen.
To do that, I think the best place to start is with the last shot.
To briefly familiarize you with the Zapruder Film frame numbers, Z frame number 313 will be called Z313. The following are a few major frame numbers for familiarization.
Z=133 We first see the Limo in the film
Z=160 Some theorize the first shot from the Texas School Book Depository, we see Gov. Connallys head movement to the right shortly afterwards
Z=220 We first see President Kennedy emerge from behind the sign, clutching his throat and obviously wounded
Z=223 Governor Connally reacts to his first wound
Z=220 to Z=324 Governor Connally turns to look over his shoulder toward what he thinks are gunshots
Z=313 We see the fatal shot to President Kennedy
Z=325 Governor Connally is hit in the back and driven forward
With the film speed of 18.3 frames/second, things happened quickly, too quick for 1960s technology and the lack of accurate information they had to extract the truth. What we can see now in individual frames captured and edited was not possible even a few years ago when everything was analogue. And of course, nobody looked at Governor Connally closely after JFK's head shot at Z=313. Most everyone was sure all the serious action was over.
To those of you who remember the basic scenarios of the Warren Commission and the other numerous theories, the descriptions shown above concerning Connallys wounds are new. And as Ill show you, it isnt a theory, its the only times Governor Connally could have been wounded in the eight seconds from the first shot until the last was fired.
With literally thousands of books and hour after hour of documentaries on what must surely be the most investigated murder in history, at this time lets concentrate on Governor Connallys wounds. Once you understand the only way possible that Governor Connally could have been wounded based on the facts we have, then not only can we understand how both men were wounded, it will once and for all reveal how the Guilty Men pulled this off.
The first question concerns the last shot shown above at Z=325. The Warren Commission concluded the last shot was the fatal head shot at Z=313 but was faced with testimony such as one of the best witnesses, Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman who sat in the Limo directly in front of Governor Connally. During his Warren Commission testimony, Kellerman spoke of the ending of the shooting as a flurry of shots. When pressed for how many, he said two. He described the spacing of the last two shots as bang-bang. When Arlen Specter pressed him again, he said it was like an airplane breaking the sound barrier (the front of the plane breaks the sound barrier before the rear of the plane, hence you hear bang-bang also).
When Arlen Specter asked the spacing between the first shot and the flurry of shots, Kellerman said three to five seconds.
When we look at the Zapruder film, we see at Z=325 the collapse forward and downward movement of Connallys head. Looking at the sequence in real time, we see Connally driven quickly forward with his head snapping forward when he is shot. Further confirmation is given when you look at the analysis of the Dallas Police Recording. The difference between the Z=313 shot and the last shot is 0.7 seconds or approximately 12 frames.
We now have a credible witness, a recording, and the best motion picture of the assassination showing agreement that a shot was fired at Z=325.
But listen to a recent explanation of the Zapruder film factoring in the Dallas Police Recording. The reasons for Dr. Thomas' confusion and his trying to cling to the Warren Commission's are easily explained, but I'll leave that for later. Listen to the description of the last shot, "fired almost simultaneously" but they didn't even look to see what it might have done.
The Zapruder Film and the Dallas Police Recording per the Main Stream Media
A Warren Commission supporter will tell you that Governor Connally could not have been shot after Kennedy was shot because his leg wound does not line up with the shot trajectory through his body and through his right wrist. And, of course, there were only three bullets fired from the TSBD.
The hole in their argument is that Connally was indeed wounded earlier by a bullet fragment which entered Governor Connallys leg. And note the importance of the fact to this investigation that it was a bullet fragment, not an intact bullet. That Connally was hit by a bullet fragment to his left leg is well documented but many of todays documentaries incorrectly describe that the left leg wound was caused by an intact bullet which then fell out of his leg later at the hospital.
Three bullet fragments were found under Nellie Connallys seat (CE840), who sat directly to the left of Governor Connally. Its therefore credible that the bullet fragment that John Connallys left leg is from the CE840 shot.
To test this theory against the Warren Commissions, I took some of the better known observations in the JFK assassination list and compared the Z=325 scenario against the Warren Commission scenario. This is a quick way to see how facts fit against both theories.
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Observation
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Warren Commission Three Shots |
Z=325 Shot to Connallys back |
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Connally turns in his seat and looks back at JFK Z=230 to Z=324 |
No (1) |
Yes |
Connally holds hat in his hand until at least Z=325 |
No |
Yes |
Nellie and John Connally both said John Was shot after JFKs first wound (3) |
No |
Yes |
Connally falls forward as he describes in later Interviews when he is shot |
No |
Yes |
Three shots were fired from the TSBD |
Yes |
Yes |
Several Witnesses saw shooter(s) at the Grassy Knoll |
No |
Yes |
Agrees with Dallas Police Recording |
No |
Yes |
Kellerman Described flurry of shots |
No |
Yes |
JFK and Connally both react to Z=222 shot |
Yes |
Yes |
Connally bullet left wide scar to his back like the bullet was tumbling |
Yes (4) |
No |
Bullet to JFKs back did not have a point of exit (5). |
No |
Yes |
(1) If seriously wounded at approximately Z=220, this turn would be incredible for a man wounded so seriously.
(2) Connallys right wrist is allegedly broken by the shot at Z=220, its not reasonable to believe he could hold his hat for over 5 seconds
(3) Both Nellie and John Connally were actually very sure he was not wounded by the same bullet that first struck JFK. At a showing of the Zapruder film, John Connally guessed that he was wounded closer to Z=238. If the Dallas Police recording is valid, there is no shot fired at that time. Roy Kellermans testimony also stated that it was 3-5 seconds before the last two shots after the first.
(4) The Single Bullet supporters such as Dr. Latimer use this as support that the bullet which hit Gov. Connally in the back struck something else first. Experimental shots show that a bullet passing through tissue like JFKs upper body tends to roll over; hence the wider scar that was left in Gov. Connallys back. This is not proof, however, that the bullet struck something else before it entered John Connallys back.
(5) FBI agent ONeal described the autopsy discovery of the bullet wound to Kennedys back and then said no point of exit was discovered by probing with both the doctors finger and instruments.
The above table indicates based on some of the information commonly discussed concerning the assassination that the Z=325 scenario has merit. When you look at the location of the shot to JFKs back (four inches below the collar) and the fact that after exiting his neck, the bullet next has to be traveling at a 25 degree down angle; this is probably the major reason the single bullet theory has been so disbelieved.
Is that enough of an introduction? Ill tell you later the rest of the story as for this to be credible, there had to be at least six shots with three different shooters according to one of the doctors involved in the Warren Commission investigation. But as Ive shown so far, Governor Connallys left leg wound was caused by a bullet which fragmented and hit both JFK and Governor Connally.
That reduces to five shots and three different shooters, three shots from the TSBD and two shots from the front of the limo, fired by two different shooters. And funny thing is, there were witnesses who saw them!
To give you a hint about the rest of the story, in Tip ONeals book, The Man of the House he discusses a conversation with JFK aid Kenny ODonnell who said he was quite sure there were two shot fired from the front. ODonnell also tells why he did not tell the Warren Commission what he saw and heard when he testified.
The cover-up and the misinformation supplied by the government is as interesting as the shooting analysis itself. You see, for the government to get the investigation this wrong with testimony so clear, there had to be some interesting arm twisting going on. Arlen Specter, do you even today have a clue what you did? And Gerald Ford, the lone surviving member of the Warren Commission, you have to know something, dont you? Or did both of you keep your heads buried in the sand as you were manipulated by the Guilty Men? The truth is buried in a Conspiracy of Silence, just like Dr. Crenshaw said in the first book I read on the subject.
And how could the major news media keep getting this so wrong? "We" will deal with you later.
If you check Tip ONeals book, The Man of the House, youll see that he talks about Kenny ODonnells description in the book of two shots that were fired from the front. Since ODonnell was in one of the cars behind JFKs, he had a unique position and describes later to Tip ONeal why he did not tell what he saw correctly to the Warren Commission.
Now lets look at the individual frames and see Connellys head snap downward immediately after the bullet hits him in the back. I drew a white line through the back of his head in each frame to make the rapid movement of his head clearer. This is the first time to my knowledge that this head movement has been documented. With 18.2 frames per second, it would be virtually impossible for Connallys head to collapse without an external force.
Z=324
Z=325
Z=326
Z=327
Z=328
Now that you see in just a couple of frames how Governor Connally's head rolled down as he was ducking forward from the Z=313 shot that hit JFK in the head, listen to his description of how he was thrown forward as he was shot in the back.
A interview with Connally describing how he was shot
As you listen to Connally's description, the part about how he was hit in the back and thrown forward by the force of the bullet agrees with the Z=325 shot to Connally's back scenario very well, but then Govenor Connally goes on to describe how he then hears the fatal shot to JFK's head.
One of the reasons that this issue has been so confusing for so long is that many of the witnesses only got parts of what they said correct. Governor Connally, for example, did not see the head shot to President Kennedy as he was looking forward as he was turning to look over his left shoulder but he clearly says in his interview clip that JFK was shot after his back wound was received. Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman says he heard one shot followed by 3-5 seconds then two shots, bang-bang. Kellerman argues with Specter later trying to reason there had to be more shots than three but Kellerman never says he heard more than three. The shots Kellerman identifies are number 3, 4 and 5. Shot 3 fragments and hits both JFK and wounds Connally in the left leg with a bullet fragment, shot 4 is the fatal head shot at Z=313, and shot 5 is the shot to Connally's back at Z=325.
And later when other details are explained, the actual killers will be exposed. No investigation could get this so wrong without some serious arm twisting.
And they're both wrong. The Zapruder film shows that Connally's suit lapel is moved by the same bullet that had passed through JFK and Connally.
Last year I met with one of the best known critics of the Warren Commission. I showed Dr. Cyril Wecht...
Wecht is overrated.
Ever read the book Best Evidence? See what the author has to say about Cyril Wecht.
Here's a quote from Wikipedia that accurately describes Wecht:
"Journalist Robert Dvorchak of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette newspaper once described Wecht as, "a man who never met a TV camera he didn't like, a man who never had an opinion he didn't share and a man who carries his own local political baggage."
In context, Oswald's short comment spoke more to me than the encyclopoedic Warren Commission Report. Ask yourself one question. If Oswald was in fact the lone shooter, why would he deny it by making such an absurd remark? At the very least, his remark, patsy or not, fairly screamed others were involved. Others that he no doubt was going to name. And if there were others involved, it was a conspiracy.
I've read many many books on the assassination and was convinced for years that there was a conspiracy. However, when I visited the TSBD site several years ago I was amazed at what a relatively easy shot it would have been. I am not a marksman, but I think I could damn near have done it myself.
Other books I have read on Oswald since that time have further convinced me that he was indeed the lone assassin.
Good job in both posts. I have seen how deformed the bullet became and I have read accounts by the people who were able to duplicate or surpass the shooting. It was an easy shot, particularly for an experienced shot like Oswald.
Not today, it seems, so I'll answer it. The remark, "I'm a patsy" only makes sense if he didn't kill JFK, and it was an admission that he was peripherally involved in some capacity.
Let these "experts" try to explain this one.
The Final Shots by Robert Harris proving that the shot came from the right.
Brief synopsis of the Zapruder film by Robert Harris that provides conclusively an accurate answer to what is perhaps, the most fundamental and important of all the issues - the question of whether a single assassin could have been solely responsible for the fatal attack on President Kennedy.
The Z-Thesis, an cursory examination of the Zapruder ffilm by Robert D. Morningstar, with speculation that subliminal messages have been insinuated into it so as to foster, promote and propagate the propaganda proselytized as the official party-line on the incident.2
THE ULTIMATE SECRET OF THE JFK ASSASSINATION, shocking expose by Robert Morningstar, that blows the lid off of the myth concerning who really is buried in JFK's tomb (hint: its not JFK).
In Defense of Jack Ruby by by David Reitzes.
Dave Perry's JFK Assisination Pages, with such notable gems such as Consiracy theorists and lone-nutters, Help! I'm pro-Conspiracy, The Robert Harris Affect and many many others.
The Truth is out there.
NOTES:
1. Bob Harris is a political humorist having spoken at almost 300 colleges nationwide, the co-author of the CD/ROM Encyclopedia Of The JFK Assassination, occasional contributor to Fair Play and a JFK assasination newsgroup poster.
2. Robbert D. Morningstar is a computer systems and imaging specialist, NYC, NY resident, and former NYC JFK campaign 1960 volunteer. He graduated from Power Memorial Academy with a degree in psychology from Fordham University, is an acknowledged Tai Chi master and has taught for the East Asian Studies Department at Oberlin College and as an Adjunct Lecturer at Hunter College (1994-95), City University of New York. At the Third Decade Symposium on the JFK Assassination in Chicago, Morningstar became the first scientist to expose publicly the use of gestalt psychology in the alteration and doctoring of the Zapruder Film. From 1992-1994, he was a movement therapist in the Behavioral Sciences Department at The International Center for the Disabled teaching in Stress Management and Behavioral Modification Programs in New York City. Morningstar is an FAA licensed pilot and Instrument Ground Instructor, member of The U.S. Naval Institute, The Air Force Association, the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, the Air Safety Foundation and is listed in Who's Who in The East (24th & 25th Editions). In June, 1997, he was elected Presider of the Ancient Druid Order of England in a Druid ceremony at Stonehenge directly linking him spiritually to the Arthurian legacy.
The Martian Thesis: The Four Faces of Mars, excellent expose by Robert Morningstar provides stunning evidence that the "Mars Face" is indeed the Apis Bull, the face of Sekmet Cat, the face of Osiris and the Horus Falcon, and emphasises this to be "..a true and self-evident, self-manifesting miracle."
RENSE.COM: USS Greenville Collision - Who Hit Whom? The Mysteries Of The Ehime Maru by Robert Morningstar of Morningstar Aerospace presenting evidence respecting the conspiracy behind the submarine collision near Hawaii, and many questions that remain regarding the sinking of the Ehime Maru.
Was TWA 800 Destroyed by Meteor Impact (The Death Ray From Outer Space)?, PIREP by Robert Morningstar of bolide meteor near-miss of airplane southwest of Hartford, CT, suggesting this closest of airborne scientific observation (made of an in-flight meteor) provides an alternative possibility for the crash of TWA FLT800, and the Los Alamos Fires.
UFO DIGETST: ET Murders Most Foul, excellent summary by Robert Morningstar of 40 hours of analysis of the 58 second Alien Autopsy Ambulance film clip.
3. Dave Perry is the past Assistant Director of University Charter School in Irving, TX., and received his degree in Education from the Massachusetts State College at Worcester. His experience includes teaching Biology and Earth Science at junior high and high school's in Hopkinton, MA. and Poughkeepsie, NY. Furthermore, he has more than ten years experience teaching business and computer applications to the staff of several property/casualty insurance companies. He was chosen to represent his school district in the Texas Teacher of the Year 2001 competition. He was the 2000 - 2001 President of the Colleyville Texas Rotary club and received the club's Rotarian of the Year award in 1999. Dave has been actively researching the murder of President John F. Kennedy for thirty years and has published numerous articles on his investigation of various facets of the assassination. He has been a special guest for the History America's Kennedy assassination tour in Dallas, TX. In 2003 Dave was an on camera consultant to the Discovery Channel's Unsolved History - JFK Conspiracy Myths.
>>He was a competent marksman, owned a perfectly capable surplus rifle, and the shot was relatively simple for his skill.<<
You could possibly be wrong about every one of these statements. I'm not going to dispute the first one since there's no clear cut answer to it, but the alleged rifle is a piece of crap. In virtually all tests that have been done to recreate the shooting, the problem isn't the accuracy of it per se, but the fact that the guns jammed so frequenty, its hard to believe one would not jam during the 5-7 seconds it allegedly took Oswald to fire 3 shots.
Besides, even the "official" story disputes your third assertion. The first shot of this "relatively simple" exercise missed. No competent marksman is going to pass up an easy shot, and the easiest shot would have been taking Kennedy straight on heading toward the TSBD before the limo made the left turn.
Thanks for the thread.
Regardless of anybodies opinions, I found it quite an interesting read.
Of course Oswald by the WC profile would have wanted to make a statement. If he came up with this ALL by himself (when from all evidence he liked Kennedy) and had the chance to become one of the most publicized men in history why would he deny himself that. I mean, if he killed Kennedy it had to be for a reason which he would want publicly known.
Unless you believe it was just a completely random act conceived and perpetrated anonymously.
It is obvious that his statement was not that of a man acting alone with the motivation (?) ascribed to him. A non-entity must be known to be a superstar.
You are welcome to all of them you want. I would take almost any other rifle or make to that as would any assassin.
And the fact remains that it could not be shot, with that sight as attached, with any accuracy.
Even assuming all you say there is still no evidence that the rifle had been shot by Oswald for months nor that he EVER purchased any ammo for it. So no sighting, no practice, little demonstrated competency with any rifle and no ammo make the shooting VERY difficult indeed.
Had Kennedy been larger, say the size of the side of a barn then I would believe the wC story.
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Who shot JFK?, 18 Nov 1998 Mother Jones article by Bob Harris1
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Interesting collection of linkys from around the Web for those looking into the Kennedy assassination and related matters.
Dave Perry's JFK Assisination Pages, with such notable gems such as Consiracy theorists and lone-nutters, Help! I'm pro-Conspiracy, The Robert Harris Affect and many many others.
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Running away as fast as I can, with head tucked firmly between my short little legs, before I get hit with debris and detritus thrown at me with vigor and conviction for exhibiting such poor posting skills as I did. D'ah.
Well, death row is a strong motivator to the contrary.
None of you detractors have owned or fired, much less handled a M91/38 Mannlicher-Carcano. None of you know their history or suitability.
You're just regurgitating conspiracy detractions that haven't been confronted with facts often enough.
There has been no statement by me of anything not consistent with the Warren Commission as regards condition of rifle, capability of shooter, ammo, work done on the rifle before firing, opinion of safety of rifle etc.
Questions based on those facts are only those an inquisitive mind would care to have addressed.
In fact, there are hundreds of relevant questions which have not been answered or even addressed based ONLY upon what is in the Report. The various authors attempts to explain what happened have varying degrees of interest or ability to communicate their opinions.
Every single "fact" about this event has so many lose ends and false leads that little is certain.
Actually, I HAVE handled one (and worked the action) and talked to those that have fired them. Please don't make stuff up just because you can't come up with a coherent response.
Our final question concerned Oswald's ammunition: Was it reliable? To test this, we fired 700 rounds of the same type of cartridge as those used by Oswald (from sub-lots 6000, 6001, 6002, 6003), manufactured by the Western Cartridge Company, a branch of the Winchester Repeating Arms Company, in the same year as those used by Oswald.
None of these rounds failed to fire, even though an additional four years had elapsed since the Kennedy shooting, making this ammunition thirteen years old at the time of the testing. Dr. John Nichols had reported the same degree of dependability, and the FBI agents [and Army shooters] who fired ammunition from lots 6000 and 6003 with Oswald's rifle more than 100 times also reported no failures to fire. These various samples represented every lot manufactured, so they much have included the lot from which Oswald's ammunition came.
In all, more than 900 rounds of this Western Cartridge Company 6.5 mm. ammunition have been fired in our experiments and those of others without a single failure to fire on the first attempt. (Kennedy and Lincoln, pp. 288-289)
In separate tests for the Warren Commission, the Infantry Weapons Evaluation Branch of the U.S. Army fired another 47 bullets, with no misfires. (3H449)
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