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If it's a dark morality tale, all right then.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 09/24/2006 4:02:43 AM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 09/24/2006 4:03:04 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

The movies and books seemed dark enough already.


3 posted on 09/24/2006 4:07:30 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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Welcome back, Ivan! It is good to see you again.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 4:08:20 AM PDT by bd476
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The story is based on a Finnish folk tale and is full of incest and suicide and stuff.”

Well hey, as long as it has stuff in it, okay. 8^)

5 posted on 09/24/2006 4:11:39 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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"The manuscript for The Children of Hurin, to be published next spring, contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths. Any film version is likely to have restricted audiences because of the subject matter.

Well, the Silmarillion by old JRR himself had all THAT. And except for the incest part, so did LOTR.

6 posted on 09/24/2006 4:16:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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The story is based on a Finnish folk tale and is full of incest and suicide and stuff.”

Well, then. There's stuff.

That will make it all worthwhile.

7 posted on 09/24/2006 4:20:06 AM PDT by woofer (It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.)
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8 posted on 09/24/2006 4:23:03 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (129 days (counting up))
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I don't know if my brain can take getting deeper into the story...

But, I will do so anyway. My guess is that it won't hold up to JRR.

Good to see you again, Ivan. Stay around, I appreciate your perspective.

10 posted on 09/24/2006 4:24:41 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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That's no worse than Celtic folk tales had, to wit:

Queen maeve and the cattle raid of cooley,The tale of deidre of the sorrows,The legend of Cu Chulainn etc.

CC

11 posted on 09/24/2006 4:26:38 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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...contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths...

I hope we don't want to give every book that contains this material an X.

12 posted on 09/24/2006 4:31:51 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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Okay... I watched a mini-series about King Arthur, where he had unknowingly had sex with his sister and that is where Modred came from. So...the plot is not new...it's just being repackaged in a different form.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 4:41:38 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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The manuscript for The Children of Hurin, to be published next spring, contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths.

So does the Bible.

14 posted on 09/24/2006 4:45:18 AM PDT by rockprof
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...contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths...

So did "The Once & Future King", another excellent fantasy book. I read "The Silmarillion". "The Children of Hurin" should be interesting though I don't recommend it for manic depressives. ;-)
15 posted on 09/24/2006 4:52:10 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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I always had suspicions that there was "stuff" going on behind the scenes that JRR was too gentlemanly to mention...

( Good to see you again, Ivan. )

16 posted on 09/24/2006 5:00:23 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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I'd rather have seen a book about the Lord of the Nazgul. He was always the most interesting character in LOR, in my opinion.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 5:35:09 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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<geek mode>
Actually, Hurin was a Man, not an elf!
</geek mode>
20 posted on 09/24/2006 6:56:33 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: MadIvan
There's usually a reason why unpublished works from famous authors are unpublished. Most of the time the work is not up to the author's standards.
21 posted on 09/24/2006 7:27:54 AM PDT by ZOOKER ( <== I'm with Stupid...)
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23 posted on 09/24/2006 7:29:52 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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Kalevala is the Finnish National Myth, aka "The Land of Heroes." It is, by turns, light and dark, with more than it's fair share of the sort of gloom the northern European peoples abound in. Look at the Norse myth of Ragnarok. Seems to me the Russians have quite a bit of that sort of thing in their legends, too. Chernebog, for example.
25 posted on 09/24/2006 7:49:58 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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