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This can go under "tell me something I already know", but I thought that the info about the much-maligned Pope Pius XII made it worthy of note...
1 posted on 08/29/2006 12:14:55 PM PDT by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons

What possessed Chamberlain?


2 posted on 08/29/2006 12:17:24 PM PDT by untenured
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To: Al Simmons

Couldn't they just be bad people? Or are we blaming everything bad on the Devil and giving credit for all that is good to God?


3 posted on 08/29/2006 12:17:32 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: Al Simmons; Admin Moderator
I personally think this is an important article...probably a prelude to Fr. Amorth declaring that islamic fundamentals are "possessed," but certain self-important folks (the FReeper equivalent of the ACLU) are gonna come around and try to get it bumped to "religion" or "chat."

I hope the mods leave it where it is.

4 posted on 08/29/2006 12:18:35 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Al Simmons

Alas, sometimes one needs superior military firepower to effectively terminate the Devil's goon squads.


5 posted on 08/29/2006 12:20:01 PM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: Al Simmons; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican
""Of course the Devil exists and he can not only possess a single person but also groups and entire populations."

I think we now know what's responsible for liberal Democrats.

6 posted on 08/29/2006 12:20:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Al Simmons

He needs to exorcise alamnutjob and hillary next.


7 posted on 08/29/2006 12:20:43 PM PDT by winodog (Buchanan is the new Perot.)
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To: Al Simmons
I was all gung-ho until we veered off again into the horrible, horrible threat posed by a children's' story that preaches that there is Good and there is Evil and you have to choose and fight Evil.

I have only this against the Catholic Church: why is it that an organization that cannot seem to root out pederasts from it's own midst seems so good at attacking the straw man that is Harry Potter?

9 posted on 08/29/2006 12:22:23 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Al Simmons

So, let's see. The Devil possessed Hitler and Hitler possessed Joe Kennedy. The Devil possessed Stalin and Stalin possessed Lillian Hellman and her band of flying monkeys. It's all coming together.


11 posted on 08/29/2006 12:25:17 PM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Al Simmons

KGB INTENT ON LINKING PIUS XII WITH NAZIS
CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY ^ | 1/26/2007 | CATHOLIC NEWS


Posted on 02/04/2007 9:00:31 PM PST by Dqban22


Pius XII and WWII

KGB intent on linking Pius XII with Nazis, says former spy

Washington DC, Jan 26, 2007 / 04:18 pm (CNA).- A former high-ranking officer with the KGB claims that the Kremlin and the Russian intelligence agency in the 1960s were set on executing a smear campaign against the Catholic Church, and the main target was Pope Pius XII.

In a recent issue of the National Review Online, Lt. General Ion Mihai Pacepa, who eventually defected from the former Soviet bloc, recounts how the KGB and the Kremlin designed the deliberate campaign to portray the Pius XII “as a coldhearted Nazi sympathizer.”

“In February 1960, Nikita Khrushchev approved a super-secret plan for destroying the Vatican’s moral authority in Western Europe,” writes Pacepa. “Eugenio Pacelli, by then Pope Pius XII, was selected as the KGB’s main target, its incarnation of evil, because he had departed this world in 1958. ‘Dead men cannot defend themselves’ was the KGB’s latest slogan.”

The code name for this operation against Pope Pius XII was “Seat-12.”

The KGB used the fact that Archbishop Pacelli had served as the papal nuncio in Munich and Berlin when the Nazis were beginning their bid for power against him. “The KGB wanted to depict him as an anti-Semite who had encouraged Hitler’s Holocaust,” says Pacepa.

To do this, the KGB wanted some original Vatican documents to “slightly modify”. So they called in Pacepa, who was working for the Romanian intelligence service.

Pacepa says he became the Romanian point man. He was authorized to falsely inform the Vatican that Romania was ready to restore its broken relations with the Holy See, in exchange for access to its archives — in order to find historical roots that would help the Romanian government publicly justify its change of heart toward the Holy See — and a one-billion-dollar, interest-free loan for 25 years.

Between 1960 and 1962, the Romanian spy sent hundreds of archival documents connected in any way with Pope Pius XII to the KGB. Pacepa says none of the documents were incriminating in themselves, but they were sent to the KGB in any case.

The KGB used these documents to produce a powerful play attacking Pope Pius XII, entitled The Deputy. It eventually saw the stage in Germany in 1963, under the title The Deputy, a Christian Tragedy. It proposed that Pius XII had supported Hitler and encouraged him to go ahead with the Jewish Holocaust. The German director claimed to have 40 pages of documentation attached to the script that would support the thesis of the play.

The play ran in New York in 1964 and was translated into 20 languages. The play then led to a flurry of books and articles, some accusing and some defending the pontiff.

“Today, many people who have never heard of The Deputy are sincerely convinced that Pius XII was a cold and evil man who hated the Jews and helped Hitler do away with them,” Pacepa writes in the National Review Online. “As KGB chairman Yury Andropov, the unparalleled master of Soviet deception, used to tell me, people are more ready to believe smut than holiness.”

Pacepa says the truth has finally begun to emerge with the canonization process of Pius XII, which was opened by Pope John Paul II.

“Witnesses from all over the world have compellingly proved that Pius XII was an enemy, not a friend, of Hitler,” says Pacepa.

He also refers to the book The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews From the Nazis, by David G. Dalin, which has compiled further proof of Archbishop Pacelli’s friendship for the Jews.

“At the start of World War II, Pope Pius XII’s first encyclical was so anti-Hitler that the Royal Air Force and the French air force dropped 88,000 copies of it over Germany,” he concludes.


44 posted on 02/04/2007 9:08:01 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: Al Simmons

hmmm, brings to mind a few dems that need some exorcisms of their own,

John Kerry? for starters
Soros,
Clintoons
and on and on and on.


45 posted on 02/04/2007 9:11:00 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Al Simmons

I think the Muslim murderers of today are possessed.


46 posted on 07/28/2007 7:35:46 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Al Simmons

I disagree that distance is the issue. its agreement/consent that is the issue.
Mark 7:24-30 seems to be authority for distance exorcism, but in this case the mother requested (gave consent) for the exorcism of her daughter. (a parent is in a position of authority to children)


47 posted on 06/30/2014 7:26:26 AM PDT by P777
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