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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: captainhighpants; daxis; fatherdidit; freakazoid; jamieharmon; jmkjbr; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; karr; ladyboypedophile; patiencevanzandt; patsyrestinpeace; pedophile; ramsey; ramseyonthelam; roundup; thailand; wendyhutchens; wrongguy
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To: stlnative

the defense team doesn't really need it - its not the veracity of the test they would challenge, its the chain of custody of the material, since the 13 marker result was found years later - and its that result that would be used to uniquely identify Karr.


2,541 posted on 08/27/2006 7:45:19 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: stlnative

right - but the one I quoted above suggested that the defense could "be left without their own samples for testing" or some such thing...that's where I was getting that. It is becoming obvious that most of the people that are speaking to journalists are guessing...


2,542 posted on 08/27/2006 7:46:42 PM PDT by Kylie_04 (not consuming liquids while posting since 2006)
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To: stlnative

Alex Hunter was before Mary Keenan-Lacy


2,543 posted on 08/27/2006 7:48:53 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: bonfire

Yes - Linda Arndt told her story on shows like GMA. She didn't come across well, so wasn't seen much.


2,544 posted on 08/27/2006 7:50:44 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: oceanview
Me too, but I was thinking I may watch a replay later just to see. You're right...I can't recall seing PR's exemplar recently anywhere but online on sites that are devoted to this stuff...but that yearbook is everywhere.

I am wishy-washy on the whole Karr handwriting thing anyway...one sample from over 10 years before the RN was written is hardly enough to go on.

2,545 posted on 08/27/2006 7:52:05 PM PDT by Kylie_04 (not consuming liquids while posting since 2006)
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To: Kylie_04

did you see Patsy's exemplar? its stunning.


2,546 posted on 08/27/2006 7:53:42 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Kylie_04

I am looking for it now --- went back to 8/24

Will post it again when I find it - one thing about me is I always post the links to the articles :-)


2,547 posted on 08/27/2006 7:55:10 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Kylie_04

It was a 2nd tiny spot in her panties, commingled with her own blood. I would've sworn we heard there were two others mixed with hers, but that may have been a media misunderstanding and then misreported.

If it matches some from under the fingernails, which they say it does, then maybe there is more of it, but my hunch is that if they are saying there is a lot for testing, like to give to Karr's people, it may be because it's PCR or something like that, where they amplify the sample they have by replicating it multiple times - then can use any of the "copies."


2,548 posted on 08/27/2006 7:55:33 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: oceanview

He knows it exists now, but wasn't involved in the latest testing and results. He was on the case in 1999, which is what people were asking him about - his involvement.

The DNA "X" was a secret and a bombshell when the deposition was released that revealed it.


2,549 posted on 08/27/2006 7:59:32 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Kylie_04

Here it is...
(my post 1861 from this thread)

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_236222319.html
Former DA Says DNA Will Be Key In Ramsey Case (from 8/24/06)

~SNIP~

According to Grant, DNA will be the critical evidence in the case and reports of there not being any good samples left is simply not true.

"There are clean samples and there is a clean DNA profile and its there just waiting for a known to be matched with it," Grant said.

Regardless of whatever DNA might have been swabbed in Thailand, Grant said the Boulder DA's office will gather its own DNA from Karr, either with his consent or with a court order

~SNIP~

But he also says he has not idea what the unknown evidence would be since he thinks everything is out there already.


2,550 posted on 08/27/2006 8:01:34 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Kylie_04

Uh oh! I was a babe in the woods so I'm sure whatever I said then only barely relates to what I've learned and what I know now - and continue to learn.

I learn more from other cases, like Danielle Van Dam's and Samantha Runnion's and Jessica Lunsford's and the Groene Family's and Laci Peterson's and Pamela Vitale's and so forth, which often applies to older stuff.


2,551 posted on 08/27/2006 8:03:49 PM PDT by Rte66
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"There are clean samples and there is a clean DNA profile"

I took that they have clean samples to share if needed and that they have a clean 13 marker DNA profile"


2,552 posted on 08/27/2006 8:03:54 PM PDT by stlnative
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The source above is not they only one I ran across. I have heard it on TV also, but then I have heard opposite also.

I chose to believe that they do have a full 13 marker DNA profile and enough samples to share now due new technology needing less of a sample to get a full 13 marker DNA profile from.


2,553 posted on 08/27/2006 8:07:14 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Notice that I didn't do a thread list today, because there isn't one, lol.

I had thunderstorms all day, anyway, but there is no news. I debated about pinging a "no ping" ping, but some people are really touchy about pings, so I didn't do it.

There will be stuff tomorrow, so I'll try to grab some reports and just put those in an update, if no one starts any new threads.


2,554 posted on 08/27/2006 8:08:32 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

We need a new thread and the mods will start asking for a new one due to this long one bogging down the server. They requested this on the Natalee Holloway threads.

I no longer start threads or host/manage them after all the crap I went through on the Elizabeth Smart and Natalee Holloway threads.


2,555 posted on 08/27/2006 8:13:12 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Oh, that was Bob Grant. he's being used as a commentator a lot on TV, too.

He wasn't a Boulder County DA, he was Adams County DA previously and was on the team that Hunter put together of other DA's throughout the state, before the GJ.

He has worked on the case, in that respect, so has seen some inside stuff. Those guys were kind of like special masters, in a way.


2,556 posted on 08/27/2006 8:13:12 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: stlnative

I was thinking of starting one, anyway, since this wasn't going to be a comment thread at first, but turned into one.

I didn't realize that long threads bogged anything down. I thought too many threads did, lol. I guess I could consolidate all the thread link threads into one and we could continue. *sigh*


2,557 posted on 08/27/2006 8:19:58 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Thanks... I don't know who everyone is.

I really did not follow this case over the years. I see myself as a "fresh" view on all of it.


2,558 posted on 08/27/2006 8:23:41 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Rte66
I'm not gonna try to talk you into anything because I know people can be rough on folks who host these murder case threads. I think right now if you are going to host one just host a weekly thread and contact the mod or Jim to find out how big the thread can get before it bogs downs the server. If Karr get prosecuted then interest will pick up and a daily thread will be needed at that point.
2,559 posted on 08/27/2006 8:29:03 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: oceanview

BTTT


2,560 posted on 08/27/2006 8:41:55 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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