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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: captainhighpants; daxis; fatherdidit; freakazoid; jamieharmon; jmkjbr; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; karr; ladyboypedophile; patiencevanzandt; patsyrestinpeace; pedophile; ramsey; ramseyonthelam; roundup; thailand; wendyhutchens; wrongguy
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To: txrangerette

This Wendy Nichols, from an article last week?

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/115589281428240.xml&coll=2

"...Friends and classmates roundly described Karr as being extraordinarily bright, but some said he had a dark side as well.

Wendy Nichols, a Hamilton High classmate, said Karr seemed obsessed with children in the years after high school. She kept her own child away from him because he made her uncomfortable, she said.

"He's totally different from `Hickville, Alabama.' He's always been a dark person, a different bird," she said. "He's smart. He's bad smart."

Still, Nichols said many in the community doubt Karr is guilty, despite his confession, broadcast worldwide on CNN..."

Seems strange that she wouldn't have mentioned this last week. I smell a rat looking to extend her 15 minutes..like so many in this case it seems.


1,941 posted on 08/25/2006 11:04:05 AM PDT by thecanuck
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To: txrangerette

Breathless Rita is due up again soon on MSNBC.


1,942 posted on 08/25/2006 11:06:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: txrangerette
I have a particularly close friend. I always say "he's like a brother". Since Karr is into word games, he may just be referrring to a friend.

Wonder if the friend is still alive or moved or died or disassociated himself from Karr when he heard about the California charges. That would LIKELY mean that the "friend" is a Californian.

1,943 posted on 08/25/2006 11:11:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ableLight
Family Scandel? Why? If the guy wasn't working steady and had an opportunity to deliver a car in Colorado (from the "great" thoughts of Hoosiermama), put some under the table cash in his pocket and drive a two year old sportscar back to Alabama (or Georgia), it certainly wouldn't be a scandel. In fact, it might just be an "ordinary event" that nobody would really notice.

John Karr's life doesn't seem to have been under the watchful eye of anyone. It was toooo irregular. Lot's see his 1040's.

1,944 posted on 08/25/2006 11:22:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: sandbar; hoosiermama; Sacajaweau; maggief; thecanuck

Rita was on at the top of this hour, again.

The friend of Karr's from his school days told Rita that Karr spoke to her just a few weeks after JonBenet's murder and basically claimed..."I was there, I did it".

All this time the woman did not choose to believe what he said, but it did keep bothering her (do tell? LOL)

When Karr was arrested in Thailand, she got on the phone to the investigation in Boulder and told them what Karr had said to her.

Now she has told it to Rita. She wasn't shown saying it...apparently she did not want to go on tv. Who knows, maybe she's been asked not to??

I haven't had time to read the most recent posts to me, so apologies if I'm pinging people who heard Rita and already know about this.


1,945 posted on 08/25/2006 11:29:00 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: thecanuck; sandbar; hoosiermama; Sacajaweau; maggief

I'm sorry, I don't know if the woman Rita spoke with is named Wendy Nichols or not. The woman herself did not appear with Rita. And the woman has reported what she claims to know to the authorities in Boulder. If she's making it up, she'll most likely pay for it one way or another. It's a crime to knowingly lie to an official investigation.


1,946 posted on 08/25/2006 11:34:18 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

That's kinda what I was thinking. It seems most families don't think much of a family member being absent on important holidays IF they have a good excuse for it. He could have made up just about any story to explain his absence and no one would have likely remembered it.


1,947 posted on 08/25/2006 11:36:45 AM PDT by ableLight
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To: txrangerette

If it bothered her so much over the years why didn't she report it earlier.....sheeeeeeeesh!


1,948 posted on 08/25/2006 11:37:14 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Rte66

the judge in Karr's case - is going to be the same judge that oversaw the grand jury convened in the 90s.


1,949 posted on 08/25/2006 11:38:12 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: mystery-ak

that is what I'm saying. But I'll tell you if someone I knows tell me they commited a popular crime I'm not sure I'd take them seriously. Maybe that is what happend.

I will say that I find it interesting that Karr has claimed he killed JBR many times over many years. If someone were making it up I doubt they would keep the lie going for year and years. I'm starting to believe Karr did this crime, but waiting for the proof before I pass judgement.


1,950 posted on 08/25/2006 11:40:21 AM PDT by Halls (Proud to be called a Daughter of Texas!)
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To: oceanview
Here's the DA's response to the unsealing of the affidavit. (For those with dial-up; it is a 13-page pdf document.)

http://www.courts.state.co.us/docs/daresponse.pdf

1,951 posted on 08/25/2006 11:42:29 AM PDT by I want to know
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To: Halls

"that is what I'm saying. But I'll tell you if someone I knows tell me they commited a popular crime I'm not sure I'd take them seriously. Maybe that is what happend."




to me, that would depend on how much info and convincing the person was.....maybe Karr has always told whoppers about various things..


1,952 posted on 08/25/2006 11:43:11 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: ableLight

>>>That's kinda what I was thinking. It seems most families don't think much of a family member being absent on important holidays IF they have a good excuse for it. He could have made up just about any story to explain his absence and no one would have likely remembered it.>>>

This is very true. I think the family (his brother and ex-wife) are assuming if he did this, he must have just not shown up, which probably wouldn't have been case.

I also keep hearing people say he 'couldn't have done that, it's not his type' excuse. "We know he's mentally disturbed but not THAT mentally disturbed", but I don't know about that. If a person could IMAGINE themselves doing something, couldn't they do it? I mean the THOUGHT of strangling a little girl is enough to repulse 99% of us, but to imagine that you COULD and DID means you have it in you to do it, right?

I'm still just trying to wrap my head around all this myself. I have been fascinated with serial killers and the way they think for years. In the third grade I was reading graphic books about Jack the Ripper and the Black Dahlia because it fascinated me that a human could do that to another human. Life is so precious to me, I try to move bugs outdoors (except poisonous ones, then you are just dead, lol), but I can't imagine harming another human to that extent!! And who would have known... I'm still in shock.


1,953 posted on 08/25/2006 11:43:54 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: mystery-ak

Mystery, she apparently chose the course of hoping he was not telling her the truth.

I don't know how to characterize HOW MUCH it bothered her. Just that of course, it was something that was always there in the back of her mind. Some people put their heads in the sand and are so scared of their own shadow in a situation like that, they become paralyzed to act.

What she should have done is told them in Boulder back when he told her this stuff. Then let THEM worry about whether it was true or not. But she didn't. I swear I've known people who would do the same. I don't get it, but there are people like that.

According to Rita, apparently seeing him arrested and hearing that he's now making these claims to the world, but is being doubted, has given her courage to come forward now (to the Boulder authorities. And Rita has the story, but the woman didn't appear with Rita.)


1,954 posted on 08/25/2006 11:48:54 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

From your account it does appear that she was/is scared...and only after he's been arrested she had the courage to come forward.......Karr must have been one scary SOB...


1,955 posted on 08/25/2006 11:51:49 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: I want to know

Is it just me, or is this response spanking the media??


1,956 posted on 08/25/2006 11:53:24 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

Yes, I think there is only a very fine line between the point of obsessing and fantasizing about something so vicious and actually doing it. That, of course, assumes we're talking about someone who is obsessed about something like that to the point that it's pathological.

I like to theorize and play 'whodunit' but there is only one thing I'm absolutely certain of in this case. Whoever did that is a monster. I don't have any other word for what I saw in the autopsy photos and the coroner's report. I can't fathom the thought processes of a monster like that.

Even if it was an accident and someone covered it up with a vicious but staged strangulation there is something very 'off' about that mindset. Some have commented that if it was an accident there is no motive for a risky cover-up but I think that really depends on the circumstances: Patsy Ramsey might well call it an accident; a jury might well call it manslaughter. It just depends on how it went down. So, even if it was an 'accident', something is really 'off' about whoever killed her. Somebody was out of their tree.


1,957 posted on 08/25/2006 12:01:09 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: maggief
"Breathless Rita is due up again soon on MSNBC."

Think she has a lung disorder?

1,958 posted on 08/25/2006 12:06:47 PM PDT by TommyDale (It's time to dismiss the Duke fake rape case, Mr. Nifong!)
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To: txrangerette

I was talking about all the different money-making schemes related to Karr acting as if he is the perp - seemingly wanting to be the perp.


1,959 posted on 08/25/2006 12:09:09 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: sandbar
I'm inclined to think that Karr isn't being given access to media reports. But, it doesn't mean he isn't being given info from his defense attorney. I hope the attorneys are taping everything. They have an obligation, too.

I'm sick of technicalities and the "insanity" plea. Almost any sick, horrendous crime can be deemed "insane". Hinckley is a good example.

1,960 posted on 08/25/2006 12:10:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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