Posted on 08/09/2006 9:42:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Christopher Columbus, the man credited with discovering the Americas, was a greedy and vindictive tyrant who saved some of his most violent punishments for his own followers, according to a document uncovered by Spanish historians... Columbus and his brothers were forced to travel back to Spain. Columbus was in chains but, although he never recovered his titles, he was set free and allowed to sail back to the Caribbean. "Columbus and his brothers come across in the text as tyrants," Ms Varela said. "Now one can understand why he was sacked and we can see that there were good reasons for doing so. "The monarchs wanted someone who did not give them problems. Columbus did not solve problems, he created them."
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The evidence has been found in a previously lost report drawn up at the time for the Spanish monarchs as they became worried by growing rumours of Columbus' barbarity and avarice. The document was written by a member of an order of religious knights, the Order of Calatrava, who had been asked to investigate the allegations against Columbus by Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand, who ruled Spain together at the time.The report, by Francisco de Bobadilla, lay undiscovered in a state archive in the Spanish city of Valladolid until last year. Bobadilla had already been named governor of the Indies, replacing Columbus, at the time of the report.
Was it faxed from Kinko's?
Columbus and his brothers were forced to travel back to Spain. Columbus was in chains but, although he never recovered his titles, he was set free and allowed to sail back to the Caribbean."Columbus and his brothers come across in the text as tyrants," Ms Varela said. "Now one can understand why he was sacked and we can see that there were good reasons for doing so.
Now if only we could see John F. Kerry's military record. He confessed to war crimes. Was his discharge less than honorable?
regarding your post 6
defending white people (or anyone) of the past is useless.
the morals and standard practices are so different and so barbarous that this is a losing proposition.
Hitler was a white guy, the US southern slavers were white guys, Stalin, white guy, etc.
The past was a cruel and barborous time and the cruel and barborous of the time are not defensible in terms of today's morals.
Accept the fact that white people (or others) of the past are not saints and leave them dead and buried.
CBS news was not involved and the document bashes Columbus and Not President Bush. Therefore, it was not faxed from Kinko's and stands a very good chance of being authentic.
This "discovery" is nearly a year old. Why is it suddenly written like it's a current event? So Columbus behaved like most other spanish explorers/conquistadors. Next were gonna here that Columbus was a 14th/15th century Stalin.
Oops...I mean 15th/16th century Stalin.
News flash -- the fact that Columbus was removed as governor and hauled to Spain in chains isn't a news flash. This latest find just fills in a blank regarding the reason for his removal. Previously known letters from him to the Spanish crown reveal his interest in enslaving the local population and use that to sell Spain on colonization.
One does not need to defend, but trying to understand them [like this Bobadilla, for example] is occasionally amusing, and could be idukashinal. See Herodotus. And "morals and practices" are different in cosmeticals and externals only. Haven't you seen the modern-day Bobadillas with the behavior right from the post 6? Yes, now they write memos, and not the reports, and forward them not to the king but to a CEO or a company president [occasionally to the Board of Directors], and the list of acceptable accusations is more modern. But one is to look at the essence and beyond appearances.
The current media environment in the USA is to find a problem then blame a white guy.
A lot of white guys are now tending to react by saying FU, not our fault and this is becoming an automatic reflexive response, not a thinking one.
So you post a "white guy's fault" even though it is a 500 year dead white guy, and you get a reflexive automatic "not his fault" response.
Yeah it is idiotic, but that is the way it is. White guys have become irrationally and reflexively defensive.
I'll admit that we (white guys) are often reflexively defensive. I'm not too sure it's irrational, however. There are no other ethnic groups that seem as politically correct to bash. And God forbid that you are a wealthy, elderly white man...you know...the proverbial "evil white men in power"( a.k.a. "The Man").
I appreciate your honesty in your post.
The white guy response is reflexive and like any automatic response sometimes it is justified and sometimes it is not.
In the case of this thread about columbus, I think it is not.
I don't like the reflexive and automatic media bashing of white guys and I'm not a white guy. But, I wish the white guy repsonse was more reasoned also.
Hey, that's the best reason I've ever heard for hanging around FreeRepublic. :') If people can't get enlightened here, there's no hope.
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