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10 Ways Darwinists Help Intelligent Design (Part I)
Evangelical Outpost ^ | 08/03/2006 | Joe Carter

Posted on 08/03/2006 12:22:06 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Have you been following this one to this point?


261 posted on 08/03/2006 8:08:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: jwalsh07; Coyoteman
Wrong again dumbdumb. Coyoteman was distresses at the hoi polloi offering opinions about science on a political website dedicated to conservatives of all stripes. Mucho condescension. And you agreed with him. And now I'm taking you to task over it.

I haven't insulted you, please do not do so with me. FD or FD2003 will do if you don't want to type my full name.

You have only to look at the thread to see what started this whole thing.

If you bristle at the suggestion you should educate yourself, then one has to wonder what other things cause you to get so defensive.

And I won't be discussing boolean logic with you at all until I see some bona fides.

IOW you don't know what I am talking about. You don't know what I mean by 2VL and 3VL, do you? You don't know what an XOR is, do you?

So you really DON'T know boolean logic, do you? So how much else of your CV is fudged?

I'll even give you a head-start 2VL and 3VL stand for 2 Value Logic and 3 Value Logic.

Your move. Or do you want everyone to public see you take back your contention (see how kind I am? I didn't say "assertion") you "know boolean logic?"

262 posted on 08/03/2006 8:10:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: Coyoteman
But that doesn't stop them from having strong opinions on everything from the big bang to biology, paleontology, geology, genetics, and the rest of the sciences.

Say what? Perhaps you should write more clearly because what this sentence tells me is that you take offense at strong opinions on anything that differs from yours.

This is a website dedicated to opinions. If you want pure science there are plenty of sites dedicated to that aim. You choose to post here and then take umbrage at "strong opinions"?

Very funny Coyoteman.

263 posted on 08/03/2006 8:11:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Coyoteman
What I will criticize on these threads are opinions offered with no support, and no study, behind them.

When will you find time to eat?

;-)

264 posted on 08/03/2006 8:11:59 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Gumlegs; ml1954
Ml1954: Define 'universe'.
freedumb2003: Give 3 examples ;)
Don't forget to compare and contrast.

LOL!! I just snorted beer all over my keyboard!!! That is the Post Of The Thread (IMHO)

265 posted on 08/03/2006 8:12:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: metmom
Another area in Genesis where the Bible writers got it right. The curse God put on the serpent was that it was to crawl on it's belly. Obviously it had legs before that and lost them.

Wonder if some ancient Canaanite or Hebrew or Sumerian, whoever first came up with the "just so" story of "how the snake lost its legs", had actually studied a snake skeleton and seen the vestiges?

266 posted on 08/03/2006 8:14:50 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: freedumb2003
So you really DON'T know boolean logic, do you? So how much else of your CV is fudged?

Still no bona fides? Did you graduate from high school at least?

267 posted on 08/03/2006 8:19:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Say what? Perhaps you should write more clearly because what this sentence tells me is that you take offense at strong opinions on anything that differs from yours.

This is a website dedicated to opinions. If you want pure science there are plenty of sites dedicated to that aim. You choose to post here and then take umbrage at "strong opinions"?

This is what I posted:

Not that this will make any difference on these threads, because the anti-evolution folks generally do not respect hard-earned knowledge. On these threads I have found that the anti-evolution folks frequently know little science, and what little they do know is often wrong. They disagree with some of the findings of science, and are out to discredit the entire scientific method as a result. In short, they generally don't trust science as a legitimate field of knowledge.

But that doesn't stop them from having strong opinions on everything from the big bang to biology, paleontology, geology, genetics, and the rest of the sciences.

I think it is clear that I do not respect unsupported, and uneducated, opinions.

I do not "take offense at strong opinions on anything that differs from yours" but if the opinions are not backed up with some facts or well-supported theories, I do not respect them either.

I have spent a lot of time studying, and I see no reason to accept everything posted to these threads as being of equal value. I reserve the right to use my understanding of science, and of a few of the fields within science, to tell the difference between accurate and inaccurate posts.

And, I am willing to be corrected by superior knowledge.

268 posted on 08/03/2006 8:19:53 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: freedumb2003
I just snorted beer all over my keyboard!!!

Was it Miller Genuine Draft? We have a thread here on FR that a court just held MGD to be beer.

I worry about these things.

269 posted on 08/03/2006 8:19:58 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: jwalsh07
Still no bona fides? Did you graduate from high school at least?

BS Pepperdine University, Malibu. 2 years post-Grad work in Applied Technology. 30 years IT experience. Previously Director of Operations for a major State University. Certified in multiple databases, applications, ERPs, etc.

Now -- what do you think of 2VL vs 3VL?

270 posted on 08/03/2006 8:22:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: Gumlegs
Was it Miller Genuine Draft? We have a thread here on FR that a court just held MGD to be beer.

I am in Milwaukee. There is a law here about beer being Miller (or else!).

Fortunately, Miller is light enough that it doesn't cause any motherboard disruptions.

271 posted on 08/03/2006 8:23:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: freedumb2003
Don't care much.

Perhaps you'll get that and perhaps you won't, it depends on your level of knowledge.

272 posted on 08/03/2006 8:24:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: freedumb2003
Previously Director of Operations for a major State University.

Did you wean yourself off the public teat yet?

273 posted on 08/03/2006 8:25:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: MineralMan
Science is not a popularity contest. The scientific method does not include the use of polls.

No, but politics does, and politicians control the purse strings.

Cheers!

274 posted on 08/03/2006 8:25:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: MineralMan
Specialists are the best source for information on a specialty. All others are less well informed.

[Loud burst of applause.]

Cheers!

275 posted on 08/03/2006 8:26:11 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: freedumb2003

BS in what?


276 posted on 08/03/2006 8:26:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Virginia-American; Coyoteman

So which do scientists think came first, the snake or the serpent/reptile/whatever you want to call it?

If the legged creature, what would have caused it to lose its legs, then? It certainly would not have provided any evolutionary advantage and it couldn't be classified as *not needing it* (like the old appendix argument). Legs are a bit more critical than that.


277 posted on 08/03/2006 8:27:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman
I assume the paragraphs were for a reason, no?

The final paragraph stands all on its own. You take umbrage at non scientists having strong opinions on science, on a website rife with strong opinions, and yet return here on a daily basis for more umbrage.

Coyoteman, the wall never feels pain.

278 posted on 08/03/2006 8:30:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Did you wean yourself off the public teat yet?

They don't use computers in the colleges and universities where you live? Or are those computers self-managing?

Is this the way you deal with those of us who sacrifice ourselves -- to the tune of 60-80 hours a week to make sure some snot-nosed little brat can get his grades and transcripts paid? That 911 calls can be made and get through? That people can enroll for classes?

But if they don't use computers where you are, then I can see how you would have disdain for people who manage them.

And how about that 2VL vs 3VL thing? By now you should have been able to google up a good cut-and-paste.

279 posted on 08/03/2006 8:32:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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To: jwalsh07
Business Administration.

So, what are your thoughts on the 2VL vs 3VL controversy?

280 posted on 08/03/2006 8:33:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Knock knock" "who's there?" "Babs' uvula")
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