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Durham Police Begin Probe Of Alleged Assault At Raleigh Bar (Investigators under investigation)
WRAL.com ^ | July 22, 2006 | WRAL .com

Posted on 07/22/2006 4:18:08 PM PDT by TommyDale

DURHAM, N.C. -- Officials say they are investigating an alleged assault involving Durham police officers outside a Raleigh bar.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: chalmers; coffee; comegetsome; corruption; couch; crime; cupofjoe; donutwatch; duke; dukelax; durhampolice; gottlieb; hatecrime; jakki; lacrosse; myspace; nifong
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To: Mike Nifong

Yeah, I am coming around to it being impossible. I checked and as you say Himan is not mentioned being at the key lineup.

As I have said, I am not a conspiracy guy. So unless something really deep is going on, it was merely cops showing their butts.


421 posted on 07/23/2006 7:02:39 PM PDT by JLS
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To: abb

How much (if any) of Pleaure Ryde's bio coincides w/ the real Crystal? West Indian heritage, NYC, etc?


422 posted on 07/23/2006 7:08:57 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: JLS

Yep, but I'm not inclined it's the first time in their life that they've thrown punches at some guy at a bar - and made ugly comments.

Think maybe, being Cops, they don't fear drinking and driving? Or Drinking and stomping?


423 posted on 07/23/2006 7:08:58 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: TommyDale

I just looked at the HTML source code and didn't spot any (calendar) dates. There were, however, several "dates".


424 posted on 07/23/2006 7:22:55 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief
"Chrissy Eclair" Oh, geez. I saw that one...

Remember recently when Crystal's father was on TV and said they hadn't heard from her, and they were worried about her? I wonder what he would think if we gave him her telephone number and said "We located her!" and get a news crew to show his reaction? LOL! I would also like to send it the the church that was out demonstrating at 610 Buchanan Street in the early days, demanding a conviction of the Duke players without a trial.

425 posted on 07/23/2006 7:25:32 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Locomotive Breath

I wonder if any of the links on her site are the same as any on C. Destine Couch potato's? I'm not in the mood to check it! LOL!


426 posted on 07/23/2006 7:29:25 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Ready4Freddy

When she was booked I think Crystal was reported to be 5'4" and over 150 pounds.

Her parents did say she had lost a lot of weight. Of couse they also said she had ovarian cancer last year and it was cured by a miracle.


427 posted on 07/23/2006 7:32:09 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Charlotte is a natural place for her to turn up. Not too far up Interstate 85, the next BIG city. Plenty of "opportunties"

I don't think the girls, or the businesses, have any problems with cheating on the statistics (heigth, weight, etc.). They aren't standing up for long anyway.


428 posted on 07/23/2006 7:41:35 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: ladyjane

From the first pictures I saw, I thought she looked 6 feet tall and weighed 300 pounds. But then again, I didn't pay attention because I was tossing cookies.


429 posted on 07/23/2006 7:41:43 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: maggief

"you can't go wrong with this adorable Charlotte NC escort!"

What could POSSIBLY go wrong???

"Basically, I'm a harmless nut. "

Harmless?!? LOL!


430 posted on 07/23/2006 7:44:51 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Mike Nifong

I'll be looking for her at the Paper Doll or maybe the BaDaBing - right off of I85.

Of course she might be at Leather and Lace.

Fer sur she's not at Coyote Joe's.


431 posted on 07/23/2006 7:47:11 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: TommyDale

You are very bad!

Did I hear a rumor you have a red mid-life crisis sports car?


432 posted on 07/23/2006 7:48:32 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

It is not red. But yes.


433 posted on 07/23/2006 7:49:54 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: maggief

I'm outa here for tonight. I'll leave you with this. You can guess who his the Punk and who is the Godfather.



The Punk and the Godfather Lyrics
The Who
Quadrophenia
1973

PUNK:
You declared you would be three inches taller
You only became what we made you.
Thought you were chasing a destiny calling
You only earned what we gave you.
You fell and cried as our people were starving,
Now you know that we blame you.
You tried to walk on the trail we were carving,
Now you know that we framed you.

G.F.:
I'm the guy in the sky
Flying high Flashing eyes
No surprise I told lies
I'm the punk in the gutter
I'm the new president
But I grew and I bent
Don't you know? don't it show?
I'm the punk with the stutter.
My my my my my mmmm my my my.

GGGGG-g-g-g-g generation.

PUNK:
We tried to speak between lines of oration
You could only repeat what we told you.
Your axe belongs to a dying nation,
They don't know that we own you.
You're watching movies trying to find the feelers,
You only see what we show you.
We're the slaves of the phony leaders
Breathe the air we have blown you.

G.F.:
I'm the guy etc.

I have to be careful not to preach
I can't pretend that I can teach,
And yet I've lived your future out
By pounding stages like a clown.
And on the dance floor broken glass,
And bloody faces slowly pass,
The numbered seats in empty rows,
It all belongs to me you know.

PUNK:
You declared etc.


434 posted on 07/23/2006 7:54:23 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: All

Yes, methinks I've seen that tattooed bicep before.....

Standing on the back porch of 610, for those who haven't made the connection.


435 posted on 07/23/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Locomotive Breath
Unfortunately the back porch picture is a little too unclear to be definitive.

The tatoo in the picture from the back porch has been intentionally smudged in the released pics, just like her face...

436 posted on 07/23/2006 8:38:11 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: ltc8k6

So, it was 5 or 6 Durham Cops - but only 2 were suspended - Gottlieb and Clayton.

In addition to the F- you, Ni**er comment - they called him BOY. I suspect the Cook is older than the Cops, but he was called BOY.

The Media would be calling out the National Guard if they were conflicted due to the Duke case.


437 posted on 07/23/2006 8:38:17 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: darbymcgill; ltc8k6

And the victim said one of the Durham Cops apologized and said the other Cops that assaulted him were DRUNK.

There it is:

Racial Intimidation, Drunk Driving, assault, Racial slurs, reckless driving

alleged


438 posted on 07/23/2006 8:41:36 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: TommyDale
More from Melanie's blog--

Comment from Joan

07/23/06 at 16:37

Two hundred comments, Melanie. Just wanted to say...wish you were here.

Let's clear up any misunderstandings. We do not expect you to be a fulltime blogger. We do not expect an answer to every question we pose. We do not expect you to fall off your chair at each "brillant" suggestion.we make. ...

Nor to answer questions posed with disrespect. Fair enough. But we expect you to respond ..occasionally.

We expect an Editor who respects her readership....and shows it by engaging.

An Editor who feels a responsibility to her readership....and shows it by responding.

One who understands in this new journalism you may not impose a monologue which, in essence , Melanie...you have done here.

We expect an Editor who understands that an occasional answer to the complexities of your coverage in regard to this case.is ..at the very least..your obligation to us.

Your silence does not serve you well. It does not serve the News and Observer well. It does not serve your readership well. Silence feeds the conspiracy theorists.

Silence perpetuates misunderstanding. Silence may be construed as arrogance, or even fear.

Why would an Editor who writes that her duty is to have her reader "armed with information" decide to leave 200 comments un-answered?

You promised to revisit our very limited dialogue when there were new developments in the case. Well, the parties have been back in court, new motions have been made, the two detectives on the case have been suspended in a racially charged incident.

Do the owners and publishers of this newspaper believe that you can speak AT us...and yet refuse to speak TO us? Do you as Editor believe you are above a civil question or respectful reproach?

Two hundred comments.

And growing.

Wish you were here.

Comment from: SarahSoCal [Visitor]

07/23/06 at 18:26

Wow. If Gottlieb and Clayton are two of the officers involved in this incident this is a major story to say the least. It really makes me wonder what else they've been up to.

For all the hoopla about Collin Finnerty's streetfight in DC, one fact stands out. He never actually hit anyone. He's also 19 years old. These cops are grown men and they're.....police officers. And they actually made physical contact. Unbelievable.

Out here in Los Angeles, the LAPD has a motto - "To protect and serve". This makes people roll their eyes occasionally. I don't know what the DPD's motto is but I doubt it's supposed to be "To slur and punch". And that's before you even get into their actions in the Duke case which smacks of some major railroading. What a mess. Somebody should clean it up.

Comment from: visitor [Visitor]

07/23/06 at 18:33

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=triangle&id=4393350

Alleged Police Assault Victim Speaks WTVD By Tim Nelson (snippet)

But the alleged victim says the truck then stopped and a man inside yelled a racist comment.

"And that's when he comes out with 'f you n-word," he explained.

439 posted on 07/23/2006 8:57:19 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

No, in Durham they're sworn to " PROTECT AND STOMP "

Melanie deleted two of my posts over there on those blogs.

What a newspaper! ABC stepped in and did the right thing.


440 posted on 07/23/2006 9:01:21 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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