Posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:32 AM PDT by Xing Daorong
I don't understand, some people say that Islam is responsible for terrorism today, rather than those who manipulate and perversely interpret Islam to further their murderous aims.
Islam is so similiar to Christianity that there isn't even a point to it, every quote showing "Judeao-Christian hatred" can be logically explained by anyone who has read the Quran.
We have groups like Muslims for Bush (now Muslims for America) a primarily Republican group of American muslims supporting the War on Terror.
"The troops, generals, and CINC seem to think otherwise. "
Can't speak for the troops there (and I know some who would disagree with you), but I think that the President is mistaken or is just being diplomatic. Probably the latter. Islam is the problem, not some handful of "misunderstanders" of Islam.
"But I highly doubt we are anywhere near this despereate situation where we have to employ drastic force."
Iran. What they plan cannot be allowed.
mohamet (syphilitic pedophile may rivers of p*** be upon him) wants me dead.
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So people CAN get out.
I laughed when I read that, in a horrified sort of way, because you are absolutely right!
The crushing intellectual and spiritual oppression we see in Muslim majority lands globally....
"Although the example of people leaving Islam is small, as Ibn Warraq mentions, it still shows it happens"
Yep. You do know Ibn Warraq isn't his real name, right? ;)
There's a reason for that. Despite this, there is a not small number that are converting. Just quietly. What I don't get is why we not only don't take issue with the continued oppression of the few remaining Christians and Jews living in the Muslim world, but actually approved a constitution for Afghanistan that enshrined Sharia law! Why does the West say little (beyond groups like the Barnabas Fund) about that oppression, rape, and murder?
"Opposing the totalitarianism you refer to in any arena America has access to should aggressively maintained"
Absolutely. I'll go a step further. No more mosques to be built in the United States until a church exists in Mecca.
Islam has no 'Golden Rule'. That's the problem right there.
"The crushing intellectual and spiritual oppression we see in Muslim majority lands globally...."
Could you imagine just how the world would've been different if Mohammad had never lived? Imagine the heights Coptic Egypt and Zorastrian Persia could have attained! Such a waste.
"Islam has no 'Golden Rule'. That's the problem right there."
No "love your neighbor as yourself" and "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". No "turn the other cheek"....
Yes I do. I have worked online with a few other authors who use pen names, simply because of personal security concerns. Not unjustified! Most have been threatened by Muslim "activists."
"...Why does the West say little (beyond groups like the Barnabas Fund) about that oppression, rape, and murder? ... Absolutely. I'll go a step further. No more mosques to be built in the United States until a church exists in Mecca."
Crippling political correctness and liberal multi-culturalism. Have you read Who Are We : The Challenges to America's National Identity by Samuel P. Huntington? I feel it has been the definitive contemporary work detailing the destructive influence on American culture by multi-culturalists and modern day liberals.
But until their influence is countered in American culture, we will all continue to be vulnerable ... and Islam will continue to feed off that vacillation and weakness.
Amen to that.
Dubya means what he said and have Muslim friends. I guess that makes him, as you sya, "mistaken". Regardless, you'd get the PResident to repeal tax cuts before employing indiscriminate warfare, interment, expulsion, or any such tactics. Besides, despite the lies of the DSM, Iraq is going pretty swimmingly with much assistance from the locals. We don't need to employ harsh tactics.
Iran is ripe for a revolution. We may go in with boots but we may not have to. The people there hate the Mullahhnuts and their pet monkey's guts.We hardly would have to pacify the population as many will willingly help Coalition forces in finding the war criminal thugocrats.
WIthout the threat of nuclear attacks, Iran would be a much easier nut to crack. As of now, the threat of a mushroom blooming where its not supposed to be is limiting our options/tactics/pace.
I am currently working through a friend's latest work, Islamic Economics And the Final Jihad by David Jonsson, another work you might be interested in. He details much destruction by Islamic "warriors" over the centuries of various conquered people's cultural creations and institutions, culminating in the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamyan destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.
You could just see historians worldwide weeping at the loss.
Perhaps it is the existence of evil and losses like this that keep us appreciative of what we have. Nevertheless, it is tragic.
"Have you read Who Are We : The Challenges to America's National Identity by Samuel P. Huntington?"
No, but I'll add it to my list.
"But until their influence is countered in American culture, we will all continue to be vulnerable ... and Islam will continue to feed off that vacillation and weakness."
Yep.
"I am currently working through a friend's latest work, Islamic Economics And the Final Jihad by David Jonsson, another work you might be interested in. He details much destruction by Islamic "warriors" over the centuries of various conquered people's cultural creations and institutions, culminating in the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamyan destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan."
It'll be only a matter of time before the culture and history in Europe will be erased. Already, centureis old churches with priceless libraries are regularly burned in the Balkans.
"Dubya means what he said and have Muslim friends. "
If he does, he's wrong. In fact, Mohammad said "take not Christians and Jews as friends".
"Regardless, you'd get the PResident to repeal tax cuts before employing indiscriminate warfare, interment, expulsion, or any such tactics."
Not until we lose more people, I'm afraid. Many like the President appear to believe that everyone desires the same thing and that all religions are good at their hearts. That is not so. Just ask the victims of the Aztecs.
If we continue this "multicultural" method of warfare, we'll lose.
"Iran is ripe for a revolution. "
It's been "ripe for a revolution" for years.
I have a couple of Muslim friends and they are great people with plenty of friends who aren't Muslim. In assessing the innocent from the guilty, individual actions count more than dogma. We have approximately a million ()number might be wrong) Satanists in the US. For the most part they leave people alone. So we let them practice.
Just because a religion si bad doesn't mean people should not be given benefit of the doubt and freedom. Only when they try to cost the line should action be taken.
"In assessing the innocent from the guilty, individual actions count more than dogma."
I've had dinner with a pleasant Palestinian. Your point? All it takes is a religous revival. The only way you find out if they are a terrorist or not is AFTER THE FACT. You can't fight a war that way and expect to win. They stand up to be counted with the jihadis by their inaction.
"Just because a religion si bad doesn't mean people should not be given benefit of the doubt and freedom. Only when they try to cost the line should action be taken."
Islam is more than a religion. It's a totalitarian ideology that has no place here.
WE HAVE A WINNER!
Funniest question on FR this year, IMO.
I'll keep it real simple.
The Koran is sacred to Islam, and ALL Muslims.
The Koran says that Isalm must dominate the world.
The Koran says that 'unbelievers' must submit to Islam or die!
That means us ' God fearing Christians', as well as the rest of humanity.
We're not supposed to have a PROBLEM with that?
Islam- ALL of Islam- gets its orders on what to believe and do from the DISEASE that is the Koran. ANYONE and EVERYONE who believes the Koran is sacred and must be obeyed by the world is my enemy.
And I want my enemies as dead as they want me.
Any questions?
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