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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"You said that T-rex bred really slowly, and therefore that showed they couldn't be accounted for by evolutionary theory; and you used the alligator as part of your evidence. Oops, alligators don't breed all that slow, so you switched and said they bred TOO FAST to make sense with evolutionary theory."

T Rex did breed too slowly for random mutations to account for the changes in said beast. That's my opinion.

Alligators do breed slowly, once per year, yet are prolific (20 to 50 young at a time) and virtually unchanged over millions of years.

Remaining unchanged over vast amounts of time is contradictory to vast amounts of random mutations.

Of course, you have a problem with every word above. You have to. You have to be argumentative, as your belief-structure is threatened by such easily laid out points.

Continue on.

277 posted on 07/03/2006 8:07:17 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
"T Rex did breed too slowly for random mutations to account for the changes in said beast. That's my opinion."

And this is based on? Nothing.

"Alligators do breed slowly, once per year, yet are prolific (20 to 50 young at a time) and virtually unchanged over millions of years."

Except for all the speciation and higher level branching.

"Remaining unchanged over vast amounts of time is contradictory to vast amounts of random mutations."

No it isn't. You are yet again forgetting about selection.

"Of course, you have a problem with every word above. You have to. You have to be argumentative, as your belief-structure is threatened by such easily laid out points."

LOL Not even you believe what you just wrote.

Keep flailing. I have stopped expecting you to back anything you said up, or for you to be big enough to admit you screwed up. That would take a level of integrity (minuscule) you lack.
282 posted on 07/03/2006 8:12:23 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: Southack
Of course, you have a problem with every word above. You have to. You have to be argumentative, as your belief-structure is threatened by such easily laid out points.

You have a problem in that you have been arguing all day with unsupported claims you simply made up.

You have no idea what the reproductive rate of dinosaurs was, and you have no idea what the mutation rate of crocodiles is. You simply made this stuff up.

Not bad for someone who travels among those who accuse evolutionists of having just so stories.

The just so story that fits all available evidence is that evolution. like dog breeding can produce rapid changes in body conformation under some conditions. Among those conditions is a relative lack of competition and predation. Such as after a mass extinction.

Between extinction events, body types change slowly. Alligators and crocodiles survived the last extinction event, and their body plan has not changed a whole lot.

Crocks and alligators have changed, however. They are not the came as they were 150 million years ago, despite you babbling about mutation rates.

288 posted on 07/03/2006 8:20:20 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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