[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Arguments over semantics (e.g. Group or Species) won't help you in this debate."

It's actually between species and order. And it has everything to do with the discussion. It shows you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and are not big enough to admit it. Your assertion that alligators have not changed much in 200 million years is belied by the speciation events that have occurred over the time they have been on Earth. They are not the same, and you lack the integrity to own up to your mistake.

"You lost. You nitpicked, asked, re-asked, and pretended to play dumb. Too bad."

It doesn't work that way. You made the claims, and you have not been able to back up even ONE of them tonight.

You said that T-rex bred really slowly, and therefore that showed they couldn't be accounted for by evolutionary theory; and you used the alligator as part of your evidence. Oops, alligators don't breed all that slow, so you switched and said they bred TOO FAST to make sense with evolutionary theory.

You have provided no evidence that T-rex's bred slowly.
You have provided no evidence that alligators have a slow mutation rate.
You have provided no evidence at all that any species of alligator alive today was alive 160-200 million years ago.

All you have is you flailing around like a stuck pig.

That's amusement enough to continue. :)

[Southack]

"You said that T-rex bred really slowly, and therefore that showed they couldn't be accounted for by evolutionary theory; and you used the alligator as part of your evidence. Oops, alligators don't breed all that slow, so you switched and said they bred TOO FAST to make sense with evolutionary theory."

T Rex did breed too slowly for random mutations to account for the changes in said beast. That's my opinion.

Alligators do breed slowly, once per year, yet are prolific (20 to 50 young at a time) and virtually unchanged over millions of years.

Remaining unchanged over vast amounts of time is contradictory to vast amounts of random mutations.

Of course, you have a problem with every word above. You have to. You have to be argumentative, as your belief-structure is threatened by such easily laid out points.

Continue on.

[OmahaFields]

You have provided no evidence that T-rex's bred slowly.

What's harder than getting a pregnat T-rex aboard the Arc?