New Study Shows Tyrannosaurus Rex Evolved Advanced Bird-Like Binocular Vision

Science News Online ^ | June 26 2006 | Eric Jbaffe

[BaBaStooey]

For such an advanced and noble creature, its such a shock it didn't evolve the capability to survive the giant-fricken'-meteor-thing.

[Al Simmons]

Here is a recreation os "Sue" from the Field Museum in Chicago that illustrates the point of this article NICELY....

[stands2reason]

How far apart they are? Where do you get that?

And if you don't have the eyes, you compare the skull in other ways.

[beancounter13]

Oh, but they did drive cars! Of course, the fuel they used in those cars contributed to "global cooling", and they could not adapt to the resulting climate change. /s

[Al Simmons]

I suspect we just pinged a few of the same people....(my what I troublemaker I've become on this topic...;>)

[Southack]

"How slow do you think they bred?"

Less often than elephants and aligators.

[workerbee]

Well, regardless of what kind of vision T-rex actually had, that Jurassic Park scene is one of the most riveting things I've ever watched. Even now when I've seen it probably 10 times, I think they did a first-rate job of putting you there.

[ex-NFO]

As I recall, one of Horner's arguments about T-Rex as a scavenger is that he thought T-Rex wasn't built as much for speed, but for long distance walking.

I've always thought that T-Rex didn't need to be fast, just faster than the prey animals. Nobody ever seems to ask Dr. Horner THAT question. If T-Rex was following large numbers of migratory prey animals, then one would expect that it would be made to walk long distances, and attack sick prey animals with short bursts of speed.

[Southack]

Tyrannosaurus rex's cheek grooves (below the eye sockets) and narrow snout cleared its sight lines, giving it impressive vision, according to a new study.

 

Here is a recreation os "Sue" from the Field Museum in Chicago that illustrates the point of this article NICELY....

 

Sue seems to be modified just a bit. Her eyes are less covered.

[js1138]

The T Rex birth rate is too low to support Evolutionary arguments of random mutations occuring fast enough to bring about species change.

If you take the reproductive rate of alligators or Komodo dragons as a ballpark estimate, how many generations do you think would occur in, say, 30 million years? How many generations do you suppose it takes to get a teacup poodle from a line of wolves, or from a pack of mongrel dogs?

[Tallguy]

Stevens says the unconvincing scene in Jurassic Park inspired him to examine T. rex's vision because, with its "very sophisticated visual apparatus," the dinosaur couldn't possibly miss people so close by. Sight aside, says Stevens, "if you're sweating in fear 1 inch from the nostrils of the T. rex, it would figure out you were there anyway."

IIRC, the vision "problem" that the T-Rex had in Jurrasic Park had to do with the fact that the gaps in the DNA-sequence had been filled with the DNA of some species of frog, meaning that the latter-day T-Rex had a few defects/enhancements. Maybe this scientist should have payed better attention to the quickie primer on DNA-recovery techniques given to the visitors at the beginning of the movie.

[Tallguy]

Most predators will scavenge if they are given the opportunity, so it's not an either/or argument. I tend to think of the T-Rex as the analog of the Great White Shark. He cruises the periphery of the pack dino, ambushing an individual animal for a chunk of meat. After the victim has bled-out, he returns to scavenge the carcass (assuming other T-Rex's don't drive him/her away. Pack-hunting is a possibility, but I don't know if there's much evidence for it.

[elkfersupper]

but how is this important to mankind?

The more we know, the better we are. Plus, we have to keep exercising our brains or they might atrophy.

[Southack]

"If you take the reproductive rate of alligators or Komodo dragons as a ballpark estimate, how many generations do you think would occur in, say, 30 million years?"

30 million years would only apply if the mutations waited that long. When do the modified T Rex skulls appear in the timeline? At the beginning of the T Rex species, middle, or at extinction?

[LiteKeeper]

YEC SPOTREP

[OSHA]

Is it a T Rex?

[js1138]

My point in discussing dogs is that one shouldn't confuse variation in size and bone length with large changes in the genome. Small changes in regulatory genes account for the difference between wolves and chihuahuas.

[Yossarian]

Separated at birth?

[Valpal1]

Why is it that all(most)you bible belters think that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive theories?

Just in case you really want to know and aren't asking a rhetorical question.

It's "the wages of sin is death" paradox. If death is the result of sin (and sin came from man) then all the millenia of death from evolution prior to man can't exist or if there were millennia of death prior to man then the "sin caused death" isn't true which means Christ died for nothing and our sin is not expiated by it.

So in order to keep your head from exploding you have to make a choice. Maybe God is right and he really did create all things in 6 literal days and created light even before the sun, moon and stars..... or Man is right and life on earth evolved over time and God had nothing to do with it.

If you understand both points of view you see that they are mutually exclusive as belief systems