Willamette Valley Warning

By Lloyd Day. I had a dream recently, I heard a knock on my door and when I went to answer it, there were two men standing there. I had never seen them before. There was something different about them, though I couldn't put my finger on what it was. One interesting thing, however, is that whenever anyone comes up on our porch and knocks, our dog starts barking very loudly, but this time she didn't.

They told me that I had to gather my emergency things and get out of town as soon as possible. I stood there stunned for a moment. They said that God was going to bring judgment on this area. My mind shifted to the two angelic beings that warned Lot to get out of Sodom. I asked them if we had time to warn our family and friends, and they said to go ahead.

I had my wife start calling while I went out and started packing emergency things into my pickup. These two men came out and started helping me, they were very fast and efficient packers. Some of the things I was packing they grabbed and threw to one side. I could tell by the urgency in their actions that this was no time to argue with them.

As we concluded the packing of the pickup, one of the men left and came back leading my wife and dog and they both literally pushed us into the pickup. We had previously arranged with our family and members of our congregation for a meeting place in case there was ever an emergency and we had to evacuate. These men told us to head out for our pre-arranged meeting place and to not stop for anything. I always keep my gas tanks as close to full as possible so we didn't have any excuse for stopping.

It took us about and hour and fifteen minutes to get to the meeting place. We weren't sure of what to do next so we started setting up camp. After about twenty minutes, someone from our congregation came in and joined us. Over the next two hours, more people in our congregation and family members arrived. After a little while, we felt a small trembling in the ground. We all looked at each other, and we turned on a small radio to see if we could find out anything.

We heard a report that a major earthquake had hit Portland with major damage. The report also said that Bonneville Dam had collapsed because of the quake and that a wall of water was rushing down the Columbia toward Portland.

My point of view now shifted to where I was above all of this watching it all take place.

There was a big Gay Pride Parade going on in downtown Portland when the earthquake hit and buildings came tumbling down on all of those there. Portland was in total devastation. I'm not sure just how big the earthquake was but the number of 9.2 seems significant.

There was also a major earthquake off the west coast that started a tsunami. Not long after the quake in Portland, a wall of water from the collapse of the Bonneville Dam came rushing through Portland. A little while later another wall of water from the tsunami came up the Columbia River and it also came rushing through Portland.

Salem was also totally leveled by the earthquake. The loss of life in the whole Willamette Valley was enormous. As I looked around Salem, I saw a group of men, I think there were about twenty of them. They all had large automatic weapons, and I had the feeling that they were some kind of terrorists or outlaws. There were a few survivors wandering around, dazed from their injuries from the earthquake. Whenever this group of men came upon anyone wandering around, they would kill them; they seemed to be looking for anyone they could kill. There was no one to come against them.

Finally, after a long while, some National Guard troops came on the scene, but this gang had killed a lot of people. When they saw the troops, they just faded into the rubble and escaped.

Later, as I thought through this, I tried to identify something that would give an idea of the date it was going to take place, and the only thing I could identify was there was a large gay pride parade in downtown Portland when the earthquake hit. So I set about to try and find out when the next big gay pride parade was scheduled in Portland. The answer to that came back as June 18th, which is Father's Day.

We set about to plan a congregation picnic that day at a campground about 60 miles East of Salem. Prior to my dream, we had already had a planning meeting about the place out there, we learned that the place we planned to meet was now blocked off so we selected another site nearby. We wanted to stay in that area because the two men that came to my house in the dream said that we were to go to the area we had already arranged for.

As the days ticked off, we went about our normal activities and did some planning for the big June 18th day. One day someone called who heard about my dream and said that it would not be a good place and we should select somewhere else. As I carefully thought about this, I realized that God had already given us His stamp of approval through the two men who came to my door as they had told us to flee to our predetermined location.

Just a few days ago, someone said they had done some checking on the gay pride activities and that there were major activities as well as parades scheduled for both the 17th (Saturday) and the 18th (Sunday). They suggested that we increase our campground reservations from one day to two, which would not be that easy to accomplish.

I began asking my Heavenly Father what to do. This now sets the stage for my latest dream.

One thing I've learned about a dream from God, you are so actively involved in the dream that there is no way to forget it when it is over.

In this dream, there was a very strange shape being assembled. It was like a cylinder that had a very irregular shape. There were a lot of pieces on the table next to it. They reminded me of jigsaw puzzle pieces and yet they were nothing like puzzle pieces. There were no tabs or offsetting cutouts. There were no patterns or changing colors so that you could match them up with where they went. There was no way to identify any markings so that you could figure out where they went. You just had to take each piece and try it and keep trying it until you found a place it would fit.

I was getting very frustrated because of the difficulty of this. Finally, in complete desperation, I cried out, "Father, what am I suppose to be doing?" No answer. Then again, "Father, what am I doing here?" After several attempts with no answer, I heard a voice say, "Shmoneh Esrei."

"Shmoneh Esrei!!!!" What am I suppose to do with that? I knew that the Shmoneh Esrei was a list of prayers that have been a part of the Jewish Synagogue service for the past 1800 years. But what am I suppose to do with it. How does it fit in with what I am involved in with assembling this cylinder?

Have you ever been involved in a research project of some kind where the material was very difficult to understand. At some point in your studies you all of a sudden "get it." You start rejoicing and dancing around. This is kind of what happened next for me. I suddenly realized that "Shmoneh Esrei" is also the Hebrew word for the number eighteen. I had been asking the Father to show me the date for this Father's Day outing. I needed to know whether it was just the 18th or both the 17th and the 18th. He just showed me that it was the 18th only.

I entered into rejoicing and praising His Holy Name when all of a sudden my bubble popped. Why did He do that? I was already on a course of obedience for the 18th. If He had done nothing, I would have continued on my course of preparing for the 18th. He must have had some specific reason for showing me. I prayed on this for some time and then it came to me. When God repeats something it is because it is determined by Him. He wanted me to tell people about this.

I was trying to maintain a low-key profile on this. I said that I wasn't a prophet and I didn't want to give the impression that I was trying to set myself up as one. Now, all of a sudden, I realize He wants me to warn the people of the Willamette Valley with what He has shown me. My first response was, "You've got to be kidding!"

"Son of man, I have appointed you a watchman to the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from My mouth, warn them from Me. 18 "When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19 "Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself. 20 "Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand. 21 "However, if you have warned the righteous man that the righteous should not sin and he does not sin, he shall surely live because he took warning; and you have delivered yourself."

Talk about being in the hot seat; I am literally trembling in my shoes. If I speak up and nothing happens then I emerge as a false prophet. If I don't speak up and something does happen, then the curse I just quoted in Ezekiel falls on me. I guess I'll just trust in my Heavenly Father and freely share with you what He has shown me.

Now, lest I be accused of taking passages out of context, let's take a careful look at the passages in Ezekiel and ask the question, "What are these people being warned of?" Are they being warned to flee from the coming judgment?

No. They are being warned to flee from their wicked ways or they will not escape the coming judgment. Therefore, we are to warn the people of the Willamette Valley to flee from their wicked ways or they will be caught up in the judgment of June 18th.

Why has little tiny Beth Tefilah been called out to proclaim this message? Because Beth Tefilah is one of just a few congregations that openly proclaims the total Word of God. We openly proclaim that the Torah is very much relevant for today in terms what is righteous living.

Many churches proclaim that the Law (Torah) has been done away with. Beth Tefilah (as well as other Messianic congregations) proclaims that only the penalty of the Torah has been done away with while the Torah itself as a true guide for daily righteous living is still very much alive and well. If you are not sure just where you stand let me encourage you to contact one of the Messianic congregations in this area and talk it out with them. I will be happy to give out names and phone numbers to anyone who asks.

Now obviously, there is not enough room in this little handout to cover every detail of what it will take to escape the coming wrath of God so we will just cover some of the key issues.

The first and top priority for every man, woman, and young person on the face of this earth is to deal with their relationship with Yeshua (the Hebrew name for Jesus.) If you don't have a personal relationship with Yeshua, then nothing else you do matters. Acts 4:12 says, ""And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

There is no salvation in any pious religious leader, there is salvation in no good sounding code of ethics. There is not even salvation in keeping the Torah. If you do not have salvation in Yeshua, then you do not have salvation.

John 3:36 goes on to say, "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

This is not me saying this, it is the Word of God. If you call me to talk about anything in this handout, we will start with your relationship with Yeshua. Without that we have nowhere else to go.

The next logical step is to move into the Ten Commandments. I have had many people proudly announce to me that they live by the Ten Commandments. When I quiz them a little further I find out that they don't even know where to find the Ten Commandments in the Word of God. Just to help you out if you happen to be in that category, I will tell you where to find them. They are listed in two places. The first is in Exodus 20:1-17 and the other place is in Deuteronomy 5:6-21. Others who claim to live by the Ten Commandments don't even know what is contained in them. Let's list them and see just how much about them you really know.

#1 I am YHVH (The LORD) your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

#2 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, YHVH (The LORD) your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

#3 "You shall not take The Name of YHVH (The LORD) your God in vain, for YHVH (The LORD) will not leave him unpunished who takes His Name in vain.

#4 "Remember the Sabbath (Seventh) day, to keep it holy. 9 "Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of YHVH (The LORD) your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. 11 "For in six days YHVH (The LORD) made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore YHVH (The LORD) blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

#5 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which YHVH (The LORD) your God gives you.

#10 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

We could get into a real discussion about each one of these but we don't have the time or the space to do it here. Let me just draw your attention to number 4. This involved keeping the Sabbath holy. We are not talking about what day you go to church on, we are talking about what you do on the Sabbath (Saturday). Do you treat it as a holy day or do you profane it by treating it just like any other day of the week? Do you set it apart as a separate day or do you mow your lawn and do any number of other odd jobs?

Let me refer you to Acts 15. In the early days of the church, the church consisted of only Jewish believers. There were no gentiles. In Acts 10, the Holy Spirit of God led Peter to the house of Cornelius where the grace of God was freely extended to the non-Jews. As time passed, many non-Jews came to faith in Messiah Yeshua. Many started coming along with a perverted sense of what these former pagans needed to do to truly be considered believers in Yeshua.

To clarify all of the confusion that was developing, the leaders called the first "Church" council. The question they needed to deal with was "What do we do with all of these former pagans that want to believe in the Jewish Messiah?" The leaders in Jerusalem realized that the most important thing these new believers could do would be to go where they could study the Torah. That, of course, was done every Shabbat in the synagogue.

The problem was that the Jews would have nothing to do with the pagans because of their evil lifestyles. So what instructions could these leaders give to these new believers so that they would be acceptable to the Jews so that they could get in and study the Torah?

In Acts 15:19-21, Ya'akov (James) addresses the assembly and says, "Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood. If these new believers would do these four minimum things, they would be considered acceptable to the Jews.

Ya'akov continues in verse 21 with, "For Moses from ancient generations has in every city those who preach him, since he is read in the synagogues every Sabbath."

My concern now is that you get to where you can sit under the teachings of the Torah on a weekly basis. The only places that I am aware of that is committed to this are the Messianic congregations. This is of the utmost importance for you. DO NOT accept any substitute.

So how can you prepare for June 18th? Make sure your vehicle is fully gassed up. Make sure you have some cash on hand; if this earthquake actually happens, your bank will probably not be accessible for at least a week. Do not rely on credit cards. If the devastation was as complete as I saw in my dream, there won't be anyone around that will accept one.

Load up at least a week's worth of food & water and some form of shelter, and leave town. If Father's Day ends without anything happening then praise God and return home. If something does happen, you can be thankful to be safe.

Saturday morning greetings.

I visited Bill Somers' website this morning and found the following account of two dreams about Oregon.

Such dreams challenge my complacent attitude about "the world as we know it."

These are food for thought, sent for your prayerful consideration.

Watching and praying, jm

[Bill Somers' site

http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html

FYI.]

Thanks.

I think this is timely regardless of what happens Sunday. But it sure seems to be pointing to an authentic warning.

Given the state of numbed-out-ness; willful blind and deafness . . . . and just lazy sleepiness the Church in general and too many in specific are . . .

it might take a series of hard jolt wake-ups to even get folks' attention. Look how quickly even Christians went back to sleep and business as usual after even 9/11.

But it sure seems to be pointing to an authentic warning.

Let's come back to reality folks. Since when does a prophecy end with, "If Father's Day ends without anything happening then praise God and return home."? .. Imagine reading that phrase at the end of the Book of Revelation!

Since when does a prophet go on and on, using a variety of scriptures, attempting to justify himself as a prophet? A true prophet is established by being right, time after time, not by a litany of other scriptures. I am a firm believer in God's gifts, but according to 1 Corinthians, every prophecy needs to be judged by others.

I'm curious why this guy didn't notify the local paper. Living in the same city, I'd know it if he did.

It appears that you have never been a "prophet-in-training."

Perhaps we can have a more meaningful dialogue if you return after 10-20 years of being a "prophet-in-training."

It appears that we will escape a quake in Oregon and Wash etc. Praise God for that.

I have no idea if prayers have changed things or if the fellow heard wrong or what. I don't really have an answer. He does NOT come across as a false prophet at all.

It's not the way I think that I'd run things.

But God knows infinitely better than I.

Personally, I'd like to see Him do some demonstration like was in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL.

But He clearly has other plans.

One thing repeated warnings may do is filter out those who truly TRUST HIM REGARDLESS.

Anyway--enjoy your perspective, if you wish. It's not mine. I'd encourage a different one but a different one does not seem likely to be in your repretoire.

Let's see, where to begin? 19 years ago my pastor and the elders told me " Yes Mike is the one you're supposed to marry" after 16 years of marriage he had and affair, never repented or stopped and I kicked him out. for seven of those years the pastor and the elders told me that G-d told them that I would have a baby. I'm now 48 in menopause, divorced and childless. I stopped listening to so called "prophets" a long time ago. Remember if they're wrong EVEN ONCE we're supposed to kill them.

One thing repeated warnings may do is filter out those who truly TRUST HIM REGARDLESS.

Repeated false warnings are nothing more than lies, and result in faithlesness. The "prophet-in-training" theory is not scriptural, and merely false prophets to continue their foothold in the church. When God speaks to someone, it doesn't take 15 to 20 years for the prophet to 'get it right'. If the quake doesn't happen, then this man is a false prophet. The scriptures are very clear in warning us about false prophets.

There are plenty of mysteries, imho.

There's always plenty EXCUSE for faithlessness.

I don't think you have distinguished that often between authentic and false prophets. Even with beginner's there tends to be a different spirit that's fairly detectable if one has sensitivity and discernment--even in writings.

But, if you wish to blackwash one and all who fail to meet your seemingly overly narrow and rigid criteria . . . or if you prefer to wish throwing the baby out with the bath, I'm sure you will.

I have 0.00% doubt that God will have many surprises for all of us in coming months. And, I have no doubt that at some point, He will clear up this muddle-headed prophetic word stuff. I don't understand why He allows all such without fixing it sooner. But I trust that He does all things well.

I know that most of the prophetic people I know try as earnestly as they know to hear accurately from God and relate precisely and only what they've heard. They are not in the least motivated by any contrary heart or spirit motivation. That was clearly evident in this narrative of two dreams. I think most people full of the Love and Word of The Lord can see that.

I know plenty of horror stories like that.

I don't have tidy answers.

A lot of what you described occurs because of control freak stuff, arrogance, group think etc.

A lot because folks have not gone through extensive wilderness experiences and sufferings that help purify their hearing and speaking.

I don't understand why God doesn't mature prophetic folks faster in this needful era. And I don't understand why even some truly authentic people miss it as often as they do. I can't believe God is pleased with this situation. Yet, He alone has the capacity to clean this area of the Church up. I'm utterly convinced He will. I don't know why He's taking His sweet time about it.

Quoting Lloyd Day:

He wanted me to tell people about this.

WHAT???????

I was trying to maintain a low-key profile on this. I said that I wasn't a prophet and I didn't want to give the impression that I was trying to set myself up as one. Now, all of a sudden, I realize He wants me to warn the people of the Willamette Valley with what He has shown me. My first response was, "You've got to be kidding!"

Then Ezekiel 3:17-21 came to mind.

"Son of man, I have appointed you a watchman to the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from My mouth, warn them from Me. 18 "When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19 "Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself. 20 "Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand. 21 "However, if you have warned the righteous man that the righteous should not sin and he does not sin, he shall surely live because he took warning; and you have delivered yourself."

(See also Ezekiel 33:8 & 9).

Talk about being in the hot seat; I am literally trembling in my shoes. If I speak up and nothing happens then I emerge as a false prophet. If I don't speak up and something does happen, then the curse I just quoted in Ezekiel falls on me. I guess I'll just trust in my Heavenly Father and freely share with you what He has shown me.

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Well, I am glad it didn't come to pass.

And yet, being who I am, I couldn't have read that yesterday morning and then NOT warn folks, btw, including emailing my aunt who lives in Vancouver, WA. She did not write me back, so I don't even know if she got out of town for the day or if she stayed home.

As I said, I'm grateful it didn't come to pass.

And so, I continue on.

jm

Cool, whether it's okay for you to pontificate and me not to, is sort of an equal protection argument that I don't really care to pursue.

If the thread contains the word "Warning", it's going to get views.

If the reaction is hostile to the fact that the warning was only a freakin' dream, sorry.

Continue your pontificating and scaring small children. Sorry I interrupted you.

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