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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: A knight without armor
Thanks for the link. It didn't really answer my questions. It talked about the Neilson ratings and black boxes brouhgt into homes to monitor the data.

I was wondering if taping or tivoing still gave them ratings. I was thinking we might need to tape and tivo the shows next year so that we can watch them at a different time, together and still discuss them and still have our fun without giving them any ratings.

5,921 posted on 05/18/2006 3:14:31 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Netizen; misterrob; silent_jonny

Very cool. Thanks for posting that. Misterrob and Jonny, did you see that Elliott was honored on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives today? See Netizen's post #5,912.


5,922 posted on 05/18/2006 3:18:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Thank you! That is the BEST PICTURE!!!! That will keep me going until Taylor wins and you put up a picture of him in the falling confetti!


5,923 posted on 05/18/2006 3:19:28 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: A knight without armor
It did not seem to make sense. But certainly the show people have to be on the up and up don't they? I mean what a huge bomb if they got caught doing something like that.

They have never released their vote totals, so we have to take them at their word.

5,924 posted on 05/18/2006 3:19:44 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: OldFriend
A short while back AI addressed the issue of the power dialing and said they were unable to stop it.

I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure.

5,925 posted on 05/18/2006 3:20:49 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Netizen

Thanks!

Funny, I was looking and saw an older site that hadn't been updated since the original finalists.

It had Chris at 1 to 1.9 somthing, Taylor at 4-1 and Kat at 1-1.


5,926 posted on 05/18/2006 3:20:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: All

I just saw some math from the percentages last night:

50,000,000 votes

33.68%=@ 16,840,000
33.26%=@ 16,630,000
33.06%=@ 16,530,000

So really it wasn't as close as it looked. I hadn't really thought of this in percentages of 50 million, but it certainly makes a difference. I don't think the Idol totals show that much different than the Dial Idol or other data. Taylor fans have nothing to fear unless he falls on his face or pees on Paula. (Something that just MIGHT get my vote--jk Paula)


5,927 posted on 05/18/2006 3:23:17 PM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: freedumb2003

I don't really understand it but this may be what you want???

http://blogs.ohio.com/beacon_tv/2006/02/for_future_idol.html


5,928 posted on 05/18/2006 3:23:35 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: A knight without armor

That was it (indirectly)

Thanks


5,929 posted on 05/18/2006 3:25:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Netizen; silent_jonny; mystery-ak; Fawn; AnnaZ; Shelayne; Wolfstar

Probably so!
I found this while doing some research. It was from May 9th, and was regarding voting by international fans.

International fans…you CAN VOTE!!! HERE is the official word on voting through Skype:

SKYPE/VOIP VOTING - the official word from the firm that controls voting for AI

THIS IS THE OFFICIAL EMAIL ANSWER I GOT BACK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THE VOTING FOR AMERICAN IDOL

AN IMPORTANT NOTE: I asked and was given permission to post this, from the voting company.

Skype. If you are using Skype to call the toll-free lines and are getting a ‘thanks for voting’ message then your calls are being counted as votes. Skype/VoIP works by connecting through an aggregated originating number that routes through a set number of locations in the US. If your Skype provider is routing your local calls through a number which is in the same time zone as you, you will not have an issue voting after the show in your area. However, as there are a limited number of ‘locations’ that Skype routes through, if someone is unlucky enough to be routed via an area (and therefore phone area code) to the one they are in, they may be blocked from voting when they ‘should’ vote. All US numbers have 2 hours to vote no matter what due to fairness issues…it’s just a case of making sure you are calling when you are supposed to be, after the show. So, in essence, you can call for 2 hours using Skype and if you have been able to vote so far, you are ok. If you have been unable to vote using Skype, try either a different vote window or a regular phone. And, while there may be many people using Skype using a small number of originating numbers, I am able to tell these are Skype/aggregator numbers. Therefore, do not assume votes are being removed…if you are using a fair method to vote, your votes will be counted.


It seems that some national fans found a way to work it. I think this is fairly new as I have not found referrence to skype on any fan sites other than Taylor's and Katharines. I did find some interesting stuff about DialIdol speed dialing though.

It looks like the winner of this competition may be the one with the most well organized fan base. The phone lines can only handle so much, so it's turned into a strategic planning session for managing the system. If so, Taylor has it in the bag. I checked out his site, and there is now talk of organizing voting time blocks according to the your name in the alphabet. They figure they can manage the conjestion of the phone lines and be more effecient. They were even cueing the different times zones on when to begin calling. It was actually rather impressive! If the lines are at their max, it may not be about who has the most fans anymore, but who can plan the best campaign. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Looking into this stuff is kind of enlightening as to what it's coming to. It's also a little sad.


5,930 posted on 05/18/2006 3:25:18 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: A knight without armor; Netizen

That site is a great blast from the past! Here is what they were saying back then.:

The largest sports betting site on the Internet, PinnacleSports.com has calculated individual odds on all 24 semi-finalists becoming the next American Idol. The oddsmakers at PinnacleSports.com currently list Ace Young as the early favorite to win the major recording contract at 7/2 odds (i.e. win $7 for every $2 bet) followed closely by Katharine McPhee at 4/1 and Paris Bennett at 5/1.

Chris Daughtry (8/1), Kellie Pickler (8/1), Taylor Hicks (10/1) and Lisa Tucker (11/1) also appear to be early contenders for the Idol crown. PinnacleSports.com lists Heather Cox (22/1), Will Makar (24/1), Stevie Scott (27/1), Jose ‘Sway’ Penala (29/1), Patrick Hall (31/1), Becky O’Donohue (45/1) and Mandisa (47/1) in the middle of the pack odds-wise.

The remaining semi-finalists have been listed by PinnacleSports.com as 65/1 long shots to be selected as the next American Idol, this includes: Ayla Brown, Bobby Bennett, Brenna Gethers, Bucky Covington, David Radford, Elliott Yamin, Kinnik Sky, Gedeon McKinney, Melissa McGhee a


5,931 posted on 05/18/2006 3:27:10 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Wolfstar

(, but people will find any loophole to exploit if one exists.)

Yep! Even if it so new that only Katharine and Taylor's groups have found a chance to use it, next year they all will be. If it had been older, then everyone of the contestant's fan bases would have gotten a hold of it. I guess there's always something! It's a contest and everyone needs an advantage if they want to win. Whether it's right or not, doesn't seem to matter, to some people anyway.


5,932 posted on 05/18/2006 3:30:18 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Netizen
Hmmm....

I would think taping would produce ratings in that your tv set is still receiving the program whether or not you are watching it.

I do not understand Tivo at all. All I know about Tivo is that Miranda Hobbs watches Jules and Mimi on Tivo on Sex and the City.
5,933 posted on 05/18/2006 3:37:42 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Conservative Texan Mom
It's also a little sad.

More than a little said. I would say disturbing.

Re Skype, it is new. I have only seen article about it in PC magazines for about a year or so. I suspect the company was founded within the last couple of years. It's a legitimate service that, ironically, is a loophole to having to pay per-call charges for long distance phone calls.

5,934 posted on 05/18/2006 3:39:22 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
Great. Just great. Now I'm as suspicious of A.I. as the guess-how-many-jelly-beans are in the jar office contest. We just take their word for it. I hate to say it but if Jimmy Carter reads this he might be headed to Hollywood to monitor vote count like it is a South American country.
5,935 posted on 05/18/2006 3:43:09 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: A knight without armor
I hate to say it but if Jimmy Carter reads this he might be headed to Hollywood to monitor vote count like it is a South American country.

ROFLMAO!!!

5,936 posted on 05/18/2006 3:53:54 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

'Idol' News: Elliott Yamin Eliminated

Last night's "American Idol" was an emotional one indeed with the elimination of ELLIOTT YAMIN. The 27-year-old crooner from Richmond, Virginia got teary-eyed when it was announced that he would be leaving the competition and he received a standing ovation after singing his final goodbye.

A clearly moved Elliott was escorted off the stage before the judges could console him. Paula, Randy and Simon also comforted Elliott's mom, upset at her son's loss.

Elliott's departure paved the way for the final two -- KATHARINE McPHEE and TAYLOR HICKS -- to duke it out during next week's big finale.

It was a very close race this week, as the 50 million votes cast broke down to a 33.06, 33.26 and 33.68 percent split between the three hopefuls.

Elliott eventually managed to return to the stage to see Taylor win the coin toss and choose Katharine to sing first next week.


5,937 posted on 05/18/2006 3:56:05 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Wolfstar

What is it about people that our nature is to take something that is meant to be fun, and light hearted, and polute it so? Disturbing!


5,938 posted on 05/18/2006 3:58:39 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom
What is it about people that our nature is to take something that is meant to be fun, and light hearted, and polute it so? Disturbing!

Very disturbing. I wonder what they get out of it. The winner and runner up are probably set for life. The people who vote so obsessively get squat other than some highly temporary sense of triumph.

5,939 posted on 05/18/2006 4:02:06 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

Maybe it's just the satisfaction of having pulled it off. Fleeting at best!


5,940 posted on 05/18/2006 4:12:41 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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