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To: LK44-40
the neighbor making the very explicit and strong claim that he saw Mangum, as she arrived, walk up a driveway -- he emphasized that it was much more than a few steps -- and he was certain that she was not impaired.

I don't discredit what he says he saw, but short of whether she was stumbling drunk, the opinion of any observer from his vantage point isn't meaningful as to whether she was intoxicated.

Someone can be well over the limit for DUI, for example, and still walk in what appears to be a normal fashion.

Take a standard field sobriety test - a police officer typically will not ask an individual to merely walk from point A to point B, but rather will ask that the person do something less natural - such as walk heel-to-toe, or lean back with their eyes closed and touch their nose.

In fact, if you look at those pictures at 12:30 of the AV standing on the back porch, she is by no means "holding up the house." In fact, those pictures cut against the date-rape drug theory, because she is clearly able to stand up, balancing on only one heel, and at the same time fiddle with things in her purse. One would have to take the position that such a drug hit her all of a sudden, just at the next moment in time, right as she was standing on the porch or walking down the steps.

Perhaps she was mildly intoxicated when she arrived, but not stumbling drunk. Kim says she then basically chugged one and a half mixed drinks. If those are college kid drinks, that's probably half cheap rum half coke with a little bit of ice in a beer cup, or the equivalent of 5 or more regular drinks. If she hadn't eaten in a while, that alcohol could quickly hit her (combined with whatever she was drinking earlier) to where she loses her balance a time or two during her routine and loses her shoe.

Then later, when she walks back around to try to get her shoe back, she is intoxicated enough that when she tries to step off the porch on her one shoe, distracted by her bags and cellphone, and steps on that pile of rags on the second step, she ends up taking a nasty fall, hitting her head and sustaining cuts and bruises.

With a mild concussion and the effects of that alcohol kicking in, it could be an hour before she starts really coming out of it.

244 posted on 04/25/2006 4:38:24 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Exactly my take on the sequence with the AV on the back porch..

I'm still interested as to why we're no longer hearing "she was smiling and talking on her cell phone"... Now it's only "she appears to be smiling in one of the pictures"

Another question I have is how long Kim was in the back yard during that period? 6 or 7 minutes of the AV on the ground is quite a long time in my opinion... I wonder if one of the boys went and got Kim after the AV fell.

252 posted on 04/25/2006 6:26:03 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

As usual, you apply your formidable analytical skills in the fair-minded search for the truth of the thing!


268 posted on 04/26/2006 5:20:57 AM PDT by LK44-40
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