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To: BlueSky194
Normally, electricity consists of positive and negative particles.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't electricity the flow of electrons. There are no "positive" particles in electricity. There are positive particles in the wiring and all mass for that matter, and the configuration of the electron shell determines a material's conductivity, but electricity is the movement of electrons, which are purely negative.

18 posted on 04/22/2006 2:34:54 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

In fact there is no difference. Positive particles do indeed exist in a sense, and they are all over the computer you are now using.

"Electron holes", which are positive, are the basis for transistor and semiconductor technology.

But still, the article sounds quite off base to me.


24 posted on 04/22/2006 2:44:04 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: coconutt2000
Electric current consists simply of the flow of charged particles.

It doesn't matter whether they're positive or negative. Usually they're electrons (negative) because they're relatively easy to get sufficiently free of atoms that they can flow; either through a conductor (e.g., a wire), through a gas (e.g., a lightning bolt), or empty space (e.g, a vacuum tube).

But they can be positive too. Most of the world's biggest atom smashers accelerate protons, which are postive particles with the same magnitude of charge as an electron, but about 1836 times their mass.

Another truly weird positive particle is the "hole," which is the absence of an electron where there's "supposed" to be one in a semiconductor material. You'd think that you could just treat holes mathematically like tiny regions that are missing electrons, but you can't. You have to treat them as objects of positive charge and negative mass, which makes sense (to the extent that it does) only through the use of quantum mechanical models of the solid state.

Semiconductor devices (microchips, etc.) depend as much on hole conduction as they do electron conduction.

30 posted on 04/22/2006 2:56:26 AM PDT by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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To: coconutt2000

--Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't electricity the flow of electrons.

It's just a model. If negative charges are moving in one direction there are positive moving in the other. I don't think anyone's ever seen anything actually moving.


63 posted on 04/22/2006 4:46:39 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: coconutt2000
"There are positive particles in the wiring and all mass for that matter, and the configuration of the electron shell determines a material's conductivity, but electricity is the movement of electrons, which are purely negative."

True. I caught that part as well. A number of capacitors in series, however, might be more efficient for generating power from a given potential than a steady stream of electrons using a standard brush-style motor. I can't recall enough electrical theory to work it out.

97 posted on 04/22/2006 6:56:11 AM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: coconutt2000

Sort of. Positive potential is created through the absense of electrons (referred to as "holes"). Holes are vital in semiconductors.


105 posted on 04/22/2006 7:23:15 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: coconutt2000

You are correct, sir. Electrons are negative potential particles that orbit atoms in conduction bands. "Positives" are simply positive potential "holes" in the bands that attract electrons.


113 posted on 04/22/2006 7:46:09 AM PDT by manwiththehands (Lead, follow or shut up.)
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