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"Man Creates Engine That Consumes No Fuel;
The National Tattler ^ | 7/1/73 | Tom Valentine

Posted on 04/22/2006 2:09:18 AM PDT by BlueSky194

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To: NavVet

I thought those 11 herbs and spices could be used for something else.


21 posted on 04/22/2006 2:39:23 AM PDT by moog
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To: BlueSky194

Art Bell had Bob Lazar ( yes that Bob Lazar) who is working on a cold fusion car right now:

http://www.unitednuclear.com/

Imagine if people had discounted A.G.Bell as a crackpot, we woud still be in the "dark ages"


22 posted on 04/22/2006 2:39:54 AM PDT by Critical Bill (An awareness of the Muslim contradiction must gnaw in even the dullest fundamentalist brain.)
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To: BlueSky194

More links here:

Saturday's main guest, Bob Lazar, known for his stories about Area 51, discussed UFOs as well as his company, United Nuclear, which has developed a Hydrogen Fuel System for automobiles and home power generation. This link about the discovery of Element.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/12/06.html


23 posted on 04/22/2006 2:43:24 AM PDT by Critical Bill (An awareness of the Muslim contradiction must gnaw in even the dullest fundamentalist brain.)
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To: coconutt2000

In fact there is no difference. Positive particles do indeed exist in a sense, and they are all over the computer you are now using.

"Electron holes", which are positive, are the basis for transistor and semiconductor technology.

But still, the article sounds quite off base to me.


24 posted on 04/22/2006 2:44:04 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: moog

In 2000, after three decades of work, Dr. Peter Lindemann cracked the secret of Edwin Gray's method. Once the process was understood, the underlying commonality of these other systems became apparent. Dr. Lindemann presented all of this research in a technical lecture in September 2000, and subsequently presented the same material in his book, "The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity."


25 posted on 04/22/2006 2:44:09 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: kb2614

Read this article from 2002.

http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/feb2/lindemnn.htm
The Worldof FreeEnergy
Peter Lindemann, D. Sc.



26 posted on 04/22/2006 2:46:22 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: BlueSky194
In case you haven't gotten the point yet about this fraud, check out Tom Valentine's other writings.

How about the one on psychic surgery? Did the medical establishment kill off that discovery too?

27 posted on 04/22/2006 2:47:19 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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To: Critical Bill

Bob Lazar has a criminal record.

Read that article by Dr. Peter Lindemann.
You can contact Dr. Peter Lindemann.

Dr. Lindemann is one of the foremost authorities on the practical applications of Ether technology and Cold Electricity. He is currently director of research for Clear Tech, Inc., Box 37, Metaline Falls, WA 99153, phone 509-446-2353, fax 509-446-2354.


28 posted on 04/22/2006 2:49:31 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: peyton randolph

Again, read this article from Dr Peter Lindemann and not Tom Valentine.
The World of FreeEnergy

http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/feb2/lindemnn.htm


29 posted on 04/22/2006 2:51:56 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: coconutt2000
Electric current consists simply of the flow of charged particles.

It doesn't matter whether they're positive or negative. Usually they're electrons (negative) because they're relatively easy to get sufficiently free of atoms that they can flow; either through a conductor (e.g., a wire), through a gas (e.g., a lightning bolt), or empty space (e.g, a vacuum tube).

But they can be positive too. Most of the world's biggest atom smashers accelerate protons, which are postive particles with the same magnitude of charge as an electron, but about 1836 times their mass.

Another truly weird positive particle is the "hole," which is the absence of an electron where there's "supposed" to be one in a semiconductor material. You'd think that you could just treat holes mathematically like tiny regions that are missing electrons, but you can't. You have to treat them as objects of positive charge and negative mass, which makes sense (to the extent that it does) only through the use of quantum mechanical models of the solid state.

Semiconductor devices (microchips, etc.) depend as much on hole conduction as they do electron conduction.

30 posted on 04/22/2006 2:56:26 AM PDT by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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To: BlueSky194
Gray said, "I never had no schooling in electronics or physics"

Nor in English, apparently.

31 posted on 04/22/2006 2:57:50 AM PDT by yeff (I rarely LOL, and never ROTF :-Þ)
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To: BlueSky194
Perhaps I am not the only one waiting for me to act on a greater Truth!


LOL!!

Stop it, your killing me!!
32 posted on 04/22/2006 2:58:25 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: BlueSky194

"On the link there are lots of article's about this amazing technology."

The oil companies killed it.On the link there are lots of article's about this amazing technology. The oil companies killed it.Well, hang in there. My son was toying around with Ethanol
idea in mid 1980's and look!!!! Our gasoline now has 2% ethanol. Ethanol is made from corn, (seeds and stalk). My understanding is any grass clipping can be used for ethanol.

When I lived near Van Nuys, I saw that little three wheel "doo dad" going down the street. Sure hope they get it working.

Sad that big business protects itself by "laughing" at new ideas without investigating. Stupidity??? Tyranny of big business. Similar situation with Pharmacy companies and discovery of Hy-pylori bacteria that caused most gastric ulcers (carried by flies). Australia did research years ago (1950). US companies wanted to protect its prescription only Pepsid, Antacids sells, and money spent on research.

Proof, big business does not care about its citizens . its money interest comes first even if we have to take a chance with getting into major nuclear war and killing off
lots of people. Now threatening soverignty of US with Mexican illegal hordes.

My engineering friend from Russia in LA would love to hear about this. He currently works for a company that is downsizing.


33 posted on 04/22/2006 2:58:47 AM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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To: BlueSky194

Of course the origianl title was "Man Creates Engine that Uses No Fuel;Invention could change history by 1984!"

The article was written in 1973.

I remember when we had a perpetual motion car. My dad was so proud. Then a goverment agent, (dressed in black, wearing sunglasses and in company of an Arab Sheik) came to our house, beat up my dad, took the car and forces a large, gas guzzeling Chrysler on us!

I'm sure I'm not alone here! (snicker).


34 posted on 04/22/2006 2:59:21 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Erasmus
BTW, I sure wish I could find a way to make money off these guys. I'm afraid that would be harder than getting anything out of the widow of a dead Nigerian general. In the latter case, it has at least been done.

I guess the only real way to make money in this realm is not to scam the moonbats, but compete with 'em for the dollars of the scamee class.

35 posted on 04/22/2006 3:03:01 AM PDT by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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To: BlueSky194
While we are at it, make the highways out of rubber so neither they nor your tires would wear out.:)
36 posted on 04/22/2006 3:03:50 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: peyton randolph

You forgot the Illuminati.


37 posted on 04/22/2006 3:05:34 AM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Erasmus

Ok I was kidding.
hahah but I had you people laughing.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energy2000/message/22998
PETER LINDEMANN'S THEORIES QUESTIONED
Tue Oct 5, 2004
Lindemann's Errors Revealed for Sterling

When I received Lindemann's book when it was first released I asked him over the phone if he had built any of the circuits that he presented and he stated to me that he didn't build any of the circuits but that he was sure that they would work because his theories all fit together.

I can tell you from first-hand experience with the Edwin Gray circuitry and switching tube that it does not generate radiant energy using the polarity that is described in its patent. When it is polarized as described it randomly arcs all over the place and does not conserve current as
intended by the patent disclosures. When a capacitor is discharged quickly most of it's energy is dissipated as wasted heat. It has been reported that Edwin Gray did not allow anyone to get close to his switching circuit and motor.

Why would Gray not want anyone near his invention when it was protected by patents? What was the big secret? Edwin Gray probably did not want anyone to get close enough to his device in fear that someone would find out that the polarity of his circuits were reversed.
When reversed, the switching tube functions in a pre-glow discharge mode and this indeed conserves energy as described in the patent disclosure. The switching tube then performs in a high frequency environment as described in the disclosures of the Gray patent.
Radiant Energy is indeed present within the tube and is not an "event" as theorized by Lindemann because it is operating in a CONTINUOUS and extremely efficient mode generating minimal heat losses. An event is what occurs in pulses like what occurs in a Geiger counter tube.

If Lindemann had confirmed his theories by building the actual circuits he would have observed the heat in the switching tube and certainly would have not called it "cold electricity," another bogus term. Even in the pre-glow discharge mode the tube still gets quite warm. It is the result of the radiant energy field that is alive with moving air ions. However, in the realm of switching tubes it is considered to be a cold cathode device.

As for Lindemann's doctorate degree call him and ask him where he obtained this degree. I was told that he was given this degree by a friend in natural medicine. It is an honorary degree to boot. Is this credible in your eyes?

What you do with the information that I have provided to you is now in your hands. My advise is to do the right thing. As for me, it is back to work I go.

-Bruce A. Perreault

http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/ion_valve_article.pdf
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/page_36_from_harnessing_cosmic_energy.htm


38 posted on 04/22/2006 3:08:49 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: truemiester
I remember when we had a perpetual motion car. My dad was so proud. Then a goverment agent, (dressed in black, wearing sunglasses and in company of an Arab Sheik) came to our house, beat up my dad, took the car and forces a large, gas guzzeling Chrysler on us!

Their neuralizer battery must have been shot.

< ]B^)

39 posted on 04/22/2006 3:10:26 AM PDT by Erasmus (Eat beef. Someone has to control the cow population!)
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To: BlueSky194

Wow... and thats why its being reported in the "National Tattler"


40 posted on 04/22/2006 3:16:51 AM PDT by ketelone
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