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To: FLAMING DEATH
That's because...

...it is the Microsoft way (they said so themselves)...

...you ARE a raving lunatic...

...and Linux DOES have to be rebuilt after being rooted.

None of which changes the fact that he never said it only happens to Windows.

No matter what spin you put on it, you still tried to attribute to him something he did not say. Wahh, he insulted you, etc. Fine. You're still lying.

I didn't bother to look at any of the links she posted because I believe it is a waste of time to feed trolls. Especially raving lunatic trolls.

Of course, ANY server that gets rooted really needs to be reloaded of known good media, because there is otherwise no way to have any reasonable degree of confidence in your system binaries. Even such commands as "ps" and "ls" have been known to be modified by rootkits. This is one of the things that 'chkrootkit' does is look for mods of these critical files. I run chkrootkit on all my linux boxes every night just as a sanity check, not because I have a reasonable expectation of any of them having been rooted.

My initial joke at Microsoft's expense was, I'm sure, recognized by most tech folks (excepting our resident troll of course), in that it seems that the standard answer for problems with MS-Windows is as follows:

  1. Reboot
  2. Reload (if the reboot fails to fix things)

I've seen people posting here on FR that they'd dealt with computers that were so horribly infected by spyware and other malware that seems to be so prevalent in the Microsoft world, that it was actually easier to just reload the box than try to fix it.

Of course, our resident troll is a freaking lunatic who does nothing but disrupt things around here, and must respond to any slap at the object of her adoration (anything Microsoft produces including gas passed by Mr. Bill).



199 posted on 04/05/2006 8:29:33 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma
Of course, ANY server that gets rooted really needs to be reloaded of known good media, because there is otherwise no way to have any reasonable degree of confidence in your system binaries.

The worlds largest tripwire database ;)

Tripwire is a majorly underutilized tool, though if I was rooted I still would rebuild...

200 posted on 04/05/2006 9:19:52 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: zeugma

"Of course, ANY server that gets rooted really needs to be reloaded of known good media."

So in other words, you believe the same thing he does on this issue (I know it's creepy, but bear with me). Knowing you can't argue when you agree, he then just made up a point of view for you based on one post that wasn't even meant to be taken seriously. Then, he attacked that point of view, claiming it was yours, and declared himself the winner when he debunked the point of view that you never even claimed to believe.

"My initial joke at Microsoft's expense was, I'm sure, recognized by most tech folks..."

Hmmm...you presented humor for the humorless. No wonder it had the effect it did. He simply doesn't get it.



201 posted on 04/05/2006 9:26:04 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: zeugma
Of course, ANY server that gets rooted really needs to be reloaded of known good media

> Didn't stop you from trying to claim it was a MS-specific problem though, for some strange reason. And this is far from an isolated event.

210 posted on 04/05/2006 3:36:44 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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