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Posted on 03/18/2006 8:00:15 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE - A Tacoma woman is in serious condition at Harborview Medical Center after being mauled by a pit bull Friday afternoon.
Mountlake Terrace Police Chief Scott Smith said the woman in her 60s was walking by an apartment complex on 212th Street when the dog jumped over a small deck fence and attacked her.
"It was really awful," said Kathryn Goddard, who saw the attack. The dog "just wouldn't let go and kept shaking the lady."
Kathryn's mom, Dawn Goddard, also saw it happen. "I looked down right below my window and was watching this dog chewing on this woman's head," she said.
Smith said the dog dragged the woman about 50 feet down a hill and was clawing at and biting her head and legs for several minutes.
Dawn said the dog's owner was frantically trying to get control of the pit bull. "She was beating on the dog, she was doing everything she could possibly do to get that dog off of this other woman," she said. "That dog was not going to listen to anyone or any thing."
A resident in the apartment complex called 911 and police arrived and managed to distract the dog and get it to stop biting the woman.
But when the dog charged at police an officer shot the dog once. "Clearly this dog was going to attack the officer," Smith said. "So the officer did shoot the dog."
The dog ran back to its owner, who was able to get the pit bull on a leash, but Smith said the dog then began attacking the owner.
Snohomish County animal control officers arrived and took the dog to a veterinarian where it was euthanized after the owner gave permission.
The dog's owner was taken to a local hospital to be treated for bites. Smith said the woman who was attacked and dragged was expected to recover from her injuries and would be spending the night at Harborview in Seattle.
The pit bull was about two years old, and Smith said there were no previous reports of problems with the animal.
Wrong, perfect analogy. A submissive pack member has no will of its own either. They are totally controlled by the pack leader. You have to stop using human psychology on dogs and attributing human characteristics to them as well.
This dog was acting in the roll as pack leader. It's actions were not evil in intent. If the human had been pack leader, the dog would not have attacked. That is the pack leaders roll. The pack leader controls the behavior of every pack member.
Thanks for that, very informing. The most vicious dog I ever saw was a PICKENESE, darn thing started biting everybody, including it's owner....had to run it down and throw a burlap sack over it. Turned out the little foo-foo dog had a tack stuck in the roof of it's mouth.....
"Bad analogy...A gun is an inanimate object with no will of it's own."
A better analogy would be driving around on bald tires and crashing into a bunch of kids at a bus stop. The owner chooses to do so and is convicted of Manslaughter. Just as the States are convicting Pit Bull owners of Manslaughter due to their decisions to own a inherently dangerous dog which goes own to kill a human.
"You have to stop using human psychology on dogs and attributing human characteristics to them as well."
I don't have to do anything as I make a responsible dog ownership decision! Failure of Pit Bull owners to make good ownership decisions has brought this upon themselves.
There is no right to own a dangerous fighting breed, just as there is no right to own a leopard.
I disagree. They're dangerous due to their specific breeding. And I've had big, strong-willed dogs. Male Briards. Strong-willed owners can control strong-willed dogs, but the genes are still there just waiting. You can't breed dogs for centuries and not expect that very breeding to show up. And, just what were these dogs bred to do? Also see my early post. I think it was #23.
You've been on enough dog attack/breed ban threads to have seen this irrelevant objection/observation answered before.
It gets boring.
One more time...
Being a responsible gun owner means being a responsible citizen and maintaining control of your firearms.
Being a responsible dog owner means being a responsible citizen and maintaining control of your dogs.
I always sold my dogs with a contact and if needed be I would have taken a dog back. Had it been a biter I would have put the dog down. When a child is bitten my vet suggests the dog be put down no matter the breed or size. I have seen plenty of little mean dogs . Its a shame how some people buy a dog not understanding the breed or the needs of the dog. They just go into a pet shop and see a cute little puppy and impulse buy. The cute little pup grows into a huge dog that they cant control and they dump it or let it run wild. I am all for people having the dog they want if they understand the breed and fully take responsbility for the dog. I have worked in a animal shelter and seen how people abandon animals when they no longer want them and it makes my blood boil. Your idea of keeping animal control on speed dial is great. I could try and grab this pitbull whose name is lily but I have grown older and wiser and I am not taking the chance of getting bit. I dont want to fight with my neighbor but my whole neighborhood is up in arms over her getting loose. If it comes down to lily going after any of our leashed dogs or children she wil be dealt with no matter how we have to do it. the owner has been warned . I think lily needs a new owner but after working in a shelter I saw many people wouldnt take dobies, rotties or pits because they were scared to adopt them. I wouldnt take one myself that I didnt raise from a pup. I now raise Shih Tzus. I find them to be great with kids and good pets.
"Each year, 4.7 million Americans are bitten by dogs. These bites result in approximately 12 fatalities; about 0.0002 percent of the total number of people bitten. ".....
"In the United States from 1980 through 1995, a total of 1318 deaths were attributed to lightning, (average: 82 deaths per year {range: 53-100 deaths}). Of the 1318 persons who died, 1125 (85%) were male, and 896 (68%) were aged 15-44 years. The annual death rate from lightning was highest among persons aged 15-19 years (6 deaths per 10,000,000 population; crude rate: 3 per 10,000,000). The greatest number of deaths attributable to lightning occurred in Florida and Texas (145 and 91, respectively), but New Mexico, Arizona, Arkansas, and Mississippi had the highest rates (10.0, 9.0, 9.0, and 9.0, respectively)"
I'll let you look up the sources...and please get to work on outlawing lightning....it's a killer y'know...
Thanks for the old statistics. Yep dogs bite...a fact of life. How many really go for the kill though? That's the issue. How many did Pit Bulls kill last year? We had 4 deaths in Virginia alone, with 2 manslaughter convictions for the owners.
No, the issue is whether nanny state solutions for every "perceived" problem forwarded by the headline driven MSM should be acted on. Your, and others on this thread, calls for eliminating breeds is the same BS that gave us assault weapon bans.....
More people die by lightning than PitBulls, that's a fact. Deal with it and quit whining for slippery slope bans that achieve nothing except the socialization of America.
What are a few dead, maimed and disfigured youngsters, or oldsters past their economic prime, when compared to the noble effort of preserving this breed.
Gentlemen, consider the brave Pit Bull. I can think of no more fitting companion to share the cells of their owners.
You are one racist SOB friend....
You can't "Switch Off" a Pit-Bull once he,or she goes into Attack Mode. .............. That goes for just about any animal, humans included. I have found that a stun gun is quite effective though in getting a dogs attention if they were trained with it. When mine get rowdy all I have to do anymore is just have them see me pick it up. Just the sound of the spark cracking in the air is enough for them to tuck their tales.
Talking point #5;
Equate a ban on dangerous fighting breeds as socialism.
That lightning strike bit is a good one!
I have a JRT and pound for pound they can be a real terror. Not so much against humans but other dogs, it is their nature, they gots to be the top dog or will die trying. I have 5 dogs and the JRT is the smallest yet he is the boss.
Communist goal #32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
I show 2..
Spotsylvania County and Suffolk
Suffolk described as 'pit bull mixes', whatever that means.
There was a third fatal attack by a different type of dog in Orange county.
Can you source the other two fatal 'pit bull' attacks, please?
NB...
Spotsylvania-dogs running loose
Suffolk-2 year old left alone with dog
The Suffolk attack brought the total of fatal dog attacks in Virginia to 10 since 1965.
Looks like an epidemic and solid grounds for a necessary infringement on the lives of responsible dog owners in order to ban this breed.
Here, Janey. I'll brush that coat for you.
Good points. Eliminating the breed is not the answer, but you will see communities and families rightfally enact measures to keep these dogs and their owners on a tight leash.
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