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Red Hat to make Linux run on Intel macs
arstechnica ^ | 1/25/2006 9:10:01 AM | Ryan Paul

Posted on 01/26/2006 12:20:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Red Hat representative Gillian Farquhar announced last week that the company plans to add support for Apple's new Intel Macs to its popular distribution. Fedora and several other commonly used Linux distributions support the PowerPC architecture used by Apple in the past, and Red Hat wants to ensure that its software will continue to run on new Apple hardware in the future. The current impediment is the Extensible Firmware Interface, a relatively new BIOS replacement designed by Intel that is not yet commonly used or widely supported.

Linux EFI support already exists in the form of elilo, a special version of the LILO bootloader designed specifically for Intel systems that use EFI and the IA64 architecture. The current elilo code base will have to be ported to Intel's x86 architecture before it can be integrated into Linux distributions capable of running on Apple's new systems. Although such a port is theoretically possible, members of the Ars Technica Linux community have pointed out that bootloaders are generally written with plenty of assembly, and consequently are not easily ported. Elilo is not particularly stable and Red Hat representatives have not discussed the methodology they plan to use, so the solution could end up being something else entirely.


Note: These statistics are based on vapid
speculation rather than a real survey.

Red Hat has not yet acquired the relevant hardware, so it may be a while before we see any progress. Community members and Linux enthusiasts may beat Red Hat and get there first, but Red Hat's preliminary commitment shows that commercial Linux distributors are interested in getting a piece of the Apple pie. Since Mac OS X operating system is based in part on BSD, and since running Linux on Apple's new hardware will not provide any unique or compelling advantage over running it on commodity x86 hardware from vendors like Dell and HP (Apple's benchmarks aside, pretty cases do not improve the performance of a laptop's software), some users and developers feel that such porting efforts are unnecessary. There are probably more than a few Mac users out there that also like to dabble in Linux, and there are definitely more than a few Linux users out there that are intruiged by the power and grace of OS X. User demand for Linux on Apple's Intel-based hardware does exist within the dual-boot crowd, but I doubt that anybody wants to run Linux exclusively on their shiny new Macbook.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; intel; linux
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21 posted on 01/26/2006 5:27:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: ThePythonicCow

See #21.


22 posted on 01/26/2006 5:28:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ah - that's what you mean by dialing. Makes sense.

I guess what I was doing was paddling, not dialing.

23 posted on 01/26/2006 5:31:46 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The distrust of authority is a deeply destructive force in the hands of evil men.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So what does MS$ plan to do?

Nothing, they don't need mac's marketshare.

24 posted on 01/26/2006 5:35:54 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wow.. does that bring back memories.

Set the load source (IPL pack) address with the toggle switches, hit the right buttons in the proper sequence, then you could bring up the rest of the system with that Selectic typewriter/console printer at the CE's right elbow.

Guys in long-sleeved white shirts and ties and suit jackets... it got cooooold on that raised floor at night.

25 posted on 01/26/2006 8:31:51 PM PST by TechJunkYard (DMCA: Don't Make Content Accessable)
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
The REAL Mac - Linux PING! PING!

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26 posted on 01/26/2006 9:21:19 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: ThePythonicCow; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the explanation and link!


27 posted on 01/27/2006 5:19:55 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Linux isn't a bad operating system. It is a great replacement for Windows. It doesn't come near to the ease-of-use of Mac OS X.

Linux-philes will try and argue that Linux is easy to use. For the most part it is. It is about as easy to use as Windows. Installations and uninstallations are a pain. When something breaks there is no easy way to find out what and how to fix it. Linux is an IT person's dream operating system. Free, customizable, powerful, and it comes with a gazillion options. It just isn't everybody's cup of tea, no matter how blue in the face Linux lovers will get trying to argue that it is.

That said, I have a Yellow Dog Linux installation on my Blue & White and it is interesting to play around with. Personally, if I need a robust server I'll go for Mac OS X Server.


28 posted on 01/27/2006 9:13:46 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think they've got it backwards. There would be some mac users that would be interested in running the macos, but the majority of this would be linux users who want to have a macbook but have zero interest in the macos.

I'd be in that category. Though I'd probably buy an Alienware or FalconNW first, Apple would be higher than your typical Dell or what not.


29 posted on 01/29/2006 5:58:05 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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