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iMac performance claims a fudge
Techworld ^ | 23 January 2006 | By John E. Dunn, Techworld

Posted on 01/24/2006 12:11:29 AM PST by Swordmaker

Steve Jobs' much publicised claim of a two-to-three-times speed increase in the new Intel-based iMac is bunkem, according to the latest benchmark tests.

The new Intel-based iMac G5 is not much faster than its PowerPC predecessor, Macworld has discovered.

Macworld benchmarks show that the iMac G5 running an Intel 2.0 GHz Core Duo gained only between 10 to 25 percent in performance compared to the IBM architecture, far lower than the doubling in throughput widely claimed by Apple.

The magazine carried out a series of tasks using two Apple applications, iMovie and iPhoto, discovering that performance boost ranged from worthy to absolutely nothing, depending on the application function tested.

For Apple applications that aren’t yet Intel native - running using the Rosetta emulator - the performance is only half what it would be on the PowerPC architecture that preceded the switch to Intel.

This is potentially calamitous for the average Mac user because until Apple applications arrive that have been compiled to run on the Intel chips natively, they will be forced to use Rosetta and see performance drop compared to their PowerPC machines.

The uncomfortable irony in this is that after years of rubbishing everything to do with Intel for its association with mainstream PCs, Apple performed a remarkable u-turn once it decided to move to the Intel architecture.

The company’s website projects the performance gain expected from the new chips with as much hyperbole as it can muster. “This revolutionary bit of technology is actually two processors built into a single chip, giving iMac up to twice the horsepower it had previously. So the wows will come faster than ever before,” it purred.

Now it transpires that the two processors add up to more like one-and-a-bit processors in extra zip, about what you’d expect given that this is the latest dual-core design.

The magazine puts forward an explanation for the gulf between what is claimed and what has been found to be the case - biased benchmarking.

Apple generated the spectacular doubling in performance by using what are known as "synthetic benchmarks", programs designed to test chip throughput using raw approximations of how applications behave. Long a controversial subject in chip testing, these benchmarks do not necessarily correspond to the actual performance users will experience with real-world applications.

Vendors are assumed to exaggerate performance hikes from new chips, so it is not a surprise that the move to Intel has not yet generated the returns claimed for it. But this is an unusually sensitive time for Apple. It is in the process of moving its loyal user base to a new hardware platform and needs them to keep paying premium prices for its hardware.

In particular, it is apparent from the disappointing scores from the Rosetta emulator that the key to this historic move will be the availability of new, native applications such as Adobe Photoshop and not simply the underlying chip platform.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: intel; macintosh; powerpc
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Hmmmmm.
1 posted on 01/24/2006 12:11:32 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
Intel Based iMac not as fast as Jobs claims... PING!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.


2 posted on 01/24/2006 12:13:01 AM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker

Software that is designed to be multi-threaded will see the 2x-3x improvement in performance. Software that runs on only one processor will get only a small improvement.


3 posted on 01/24/2006 12:27:07 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Swordmaker

The article is a load of bunk.

First off the author is mistaken about the name of the new iMac. It is not an "iMac G5". Secondly there is nothing in the article that is new. Everyone already knows that using Rosetta is going to cause a performance hit until native applications come out.

I remember the negative press when Apple switched to OS X. That was perhaps a far more challenging transition than the one faced by Apple's switch to Intel. Given Rosetta and Apple's developer tools, the transition to Intel should be quicker.

People who buy an Intel iMac and expect PowerPC applications to run twice as fast are probably the same people who vote Democrat and expect tax cuts.


4 posted on 01/24/2006 12:27:19 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
My new G5 handles my new Solitaire 2006 card game and my Chessmaster 2000 just fine.

Hell, even my Asteroids is running fine in emulation mode.

Quit bitching!

5 posted on 01/24/2006 12:32:38 AM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: Swordmaker

To be fair, Jobs' claims came from a special, optimized benchmark. He was being truthful, but truthful about a meaningless benchmark. Performance for native Intel apps is about 20% better, which is still a great improvement.

Now I just need to actually buy a MacBook Pro... it's difficult being in college, with no job. Damn.


6 posted on 01/24/2006 1:04:13 AM PST by Terpfen (Miami goes 9-7! Go Saban!)
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To: zarf

Talking to me or the author of the article?


7 posted on 01/24/2006 1:08:12 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Swordmaker
...moving its loyal user base to a new hardware platform and needs them to keep paying premium prices for its hardware.

Do I detect a bias in the author of this article? Yup.

8 posted on 01/24/2006 1:35:41 AM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

"Oops" ping.


9 posted on 01/24/2006 3:19:14 AM PST by Darksheare (And baby says "RAAAAR!")
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To: Swordmaker
But this is an unusually sensitive time for Apple.

When hasn't it been?

10 posted on 01/24/2006 6:05:23 AM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Swordmaker

Walt Mossberg said that the performance under emulation was the same as that on the previous Imac. Where did they get this 50% performance drop?


11 posted on 01/24/2006 6:42:22 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: Swordmaker

I think someone who doesn't wait a year before buying an Intel machine, is nuts.


12 posted on 01/24/2006 7:44:40 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: zarf
My new G5 handles my new Solitaire 2006 card game and my Chessmaster 2000 just fine.

Yes, but how about Quark Xpress & Photoshop?

13 posted on 01/24/2006 7:47:10 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: HAL9000

Right. The system as a whole has a 2x-3x aggregate performance improvement (how many things you can run at the same time how fast). That's not to say for any one particular program running by itself that it will go that fast -- it may, but of course, performance varies. And he did make the claim about the specific benchmarks -- just like all his competitors do. He was very clear they were benchmarks and in fact that all benchmark numbers are a little exaggerated (if you watch the video).

On the other hand, I was in the store and played around with one for a few minutes over the weekend and it certainly SEEMED very fast for interactive usage, even for things running under Rosetta. So I don't think that its speed will particularly disappoint anyone.

On the other hand, it's certainly fun to try taking down Steve Jobs a notch :-)


14 posted on 01/24/2006 8:32:02 AM PST by mhx
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To: mhx
On the other hand, it's certainly fun to try taking down Steve Jobs a notch :-)

That will be difficult. This week, he'll net about $4 billion by selling Pixar and exercising his Apple options.

15 posted on 01/24/2006 9:13:55 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: mhx
On the other hand, it's certainly fun to try taking down Steve Jobs a notch :-)

That will be difficult. This week, he'll net about $4 billion by selling Pixar and exercising his Apple options.

16 posted on 01/24/2006 9:13:55 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Swordmaker

I guess that's why there hasn't been a big blowout price on the PPC models.


17 posted on 01/24/2006 9:41:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: Swordmaker
Steve Jobs' much publicised claim of a two-to-three-times speed increase in the new Intel-based iMac is bunkem, according to the latest benchmark tests.

I'm shocked, shocked, shocked that Jobs would either deliberately lie or make incompetent claims...
18 posted on 01/24/2006 11:37:03 AM PST by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Swordmaker
Steve Jobs lies again? Nooooo! Say it ain't so!

Now watch the Apple Slaves come out of hiding and throw their bodies onto the grenade to protect their Dear Leader; that Reality Distortion Field is somethin' else, eh?
19 posted on 01/24/2006 11:40:18 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: Swordmaker; cyborg
Leo Laporte reported on his KVI radio show that his iMac was just not as fast as the one Jobs demonstrated at MacWorld.

Very peculiar.


I can't wait to hear what the TWITs have to say about this.
20 posted on 01/24/2006 11:44:39 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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