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The OFFICIAL weekly "24" Season 5 Live thread!
FOX 24 ^ | 1-15-06 | Jack Bauer

Posted on 01/12/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by OXENinFLA



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To: Alouette
Yah, that was a hoot.

Well, wth, all the screenwriters live in blue states, pubbie school grads w/absolutely zero, or very close to zero, knowledge of practical geography.

The writers blow and blow off other inarguable facts in the name of entertainment, too, and I've mixed views on this.

Isn't the purpose of video (TV/film) entertainment to tell a story that keeps one coming back for more? I think so; some soap operas have been running for 30 years and more, correct? (sorry, last soap opera I watched was named ''Hill Street Blues''; I'm unquestionably out of date here...if such a thing is possible).

Imagine this: 'Dad, I told you I didn't go down to Lauderdale for spring break. I was in the Iowa (or Kansas, or Nebraska) Mountains those two weeks'.

2,441 posted on 01/16/2006 10:35:59 PM PST by SAJ
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To: HairOfTheDog
From official Web-site (thanks to SuziQ in #1422 - I went Jack Bauer black ops backtracking through this thread to discover that little nugget in search of better info on the subject):

7:40 A.M.
Logan comes to see his wife and she apologizes for making a scene. Martha thinks that Palmer was killed because of her. She explains that Palmer had called her yesterday and wanted to meet about something involving national security and Logan. The President wonders why Palmer didn’t call him directly, but Martha points out that he shut Palmer out of the White House. She was his only access. Martha realizes that her husband doesn’t believe her. "I am not crazy!" she exclaims. Logan promises that he will have Cummings look into it. He sweetly asks her to get ready for the Russian president’s visit.

8:25 A.M.
Jack asks Wayne if Palmer had done or said anything out of the ordinary. Wayne thought that Palmer was distracted. Jack pulls up an encrypted file and Wayne realizes it is the first chapter of the President’s memoir. They compare it to printed versions to figure out why this one was encrypted.

8:33 A.M.
Wayne sees that his brother added a name and address in the middle of a sentence. Jack has Chloe look up the name Chevensky at 16 Transport Way. The name and address are of a baggage handler at the Ontario Airport.

8:58 A.M.
Jack finds Chevensky’s office and pulls his gun on the man, demanding to know why Palmer was killed. Nathanson’s men set off a bomb to explode their van. Jack hears the noise and looks into the hallway. As he steps away, Chevensky takes a poison pill.

Not only do I find it extremely intruiging why Palmer was calling FLOTUS, but Jack is as confused about the reason for Palmer's assassination as I am. Clearly Palmer knew something (he had two years or so to work on things). Remember, he was involved in an operation in Serbia several years ago with Jack, and they were working on eliminating all those people. Now there's a Chechnian element in this. There's a link here somewhere to all that.

2,442 posted on 01/16/2006 10:40:54 PM PST by raygun
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To: SAJ
I think your Radio show is fun...but no one can play Jack Bauer except for the man who in real life IS Jack Bauer...George W. Bush. He tortures terrorists, taps our cell phone calls, gets in fights with other countries, works alone, and his actions are the only reason we havent been hit again since 9/11.
He might not have been the origonal idea for the character, but over the past few seasons, Jack Bauer has carried on the spirit of George W. Bush. At my house, 24, is an allegory to the war on terror. As in 24, like real life...when the chips are down, the terrorists are plotting, there is only one man you want making the decisions...George W. Bush.
2,443 posted on 01/16/2006 10:44:04 PM PST by cstrikeseal (The Following Takes Place Between 2000 and 2008.)
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To: raygun
to discover that little nugget in search

Sounds like the Gecko in the Geico ads running now !

2,444 posted on 01/16/2006 10:44:21 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: OXENinFLA

Okay....I'm hooked....please add me to the ping list.....but.....WAAAAHHHHH....I missed the 3rd hour of the 4 hour Premier.......trying to find a synopsis here.


2,445 posted on 01/16/2006 10:44:27 PM PST by goodnesswins (Here in the Seattle area.....It's time to build Arks.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think Edgar likes Chloe, and doesn't like this new dude.

No question, Chloe is a geek's dream girl. I bet she ends up with Jack though.

2,446 posted on 01/16/2006 10:49:35 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: goodnesswins

see post #2442


2,447 posted on 01/16/2006 10:50:03 PM PST by raygun
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To: HairOfTheDog

Last Season Palmer saved Logan's butt. Logan resented Palmer being the leader he knows he wasn't and banned all access to the White House from Palmer, so Palmer was trying to use the life time friendship with the President's wife to get information in.

The premise is a bit goofy, because there are two characters tonight that were featured that the Ex President had a relationship with.
#1 the Chief of Staff
#2 the Secret Service Agent who once was his guard.


2,448 posted on 01/16/2006 10:54:06 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I know. That's what had me scratching my head too. And the Chief of Staff would certainly listen to Palmer, especially since I'm pretty certain he knows he's dealing with a fully bitten rabid moonbat (and not a mere half-bitten Howard Dean type of moonbat).

Quite a very intersting comment made by Logan about he screaming he wants the situation FIXED and not caring what it takes. Tom Clancy wrote a novel about that very thing: an innoccuous statement by a President, and his aides take him up on it launching military ops in Columbia and shooting down drug dealer planes. There were all kinds of repercussions to that.

2,449 posted on 01/16/2006 11:01:22 PM PST by raygun
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To: pitbully

Nerve gas.


2,450 posted on 01/16/2006 11:01:47 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: racing fan
The yellow tie guy will be found later. I think it will lead Jack to the other bad guys.

Yes, probably the California State Legislature.

2,451 posted on 01/16/2006 11:03:14 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
1) If you were plotting an operation as described in the programme tonight, would you have all your people equipped with radiodets operating on the same frequency? I would say ''Not unless I'm a stone freaking moron'', but you may choose to differ.

2) A ''cell phone'' is nothing OTHER than a transmission/reception device. Whether or not it can be remotely reprogrammed depends entirely on its innards. In any case, opsec for this type of op would literally demand that all comms not be able to be compromised at once.

3) Agreed, bad technique as done. However, perhaps it's possible to multichannel through his earpiece (check the scene, he did have it in throughout).

4) The 'cannisters' properties are, as yet, undetermined.

5) Your question is not clear. What were **who** trying to prevent?

6) Who said -- or implied, ever -- that WMD were present at the airport? They may turn out to be, but that fact was not evinced tonight. Was the hole in the concrete necessarily anywhere AROUND the airport? You say 'yes'; I say 'On what evidence?' We do not know when Yellow Tie Guy left or how far he may have gone from the airport...yet.

7) They most certainly DID jam their own cells in order to shut down further cell comms and to hook a desk set into the PA system. No loss for them; they had to (so they thought...major mistake of course) get Bauer to come out.

8) The screenwriting about FLOTUS is very weak, quite right and a good point you made. Can't win on all fronts all the time.

9) Ditto 8). One would presume a FLOTUS who was thought to be psychotic or paranoiac would be under continuous observation at all times.

10) Codes change weekly or monthly, simple ordinary security; the less credible part of this was that the tango didn't rake his weapon across Bauer's lips immediately after disconnect, for trying to reveal ANY facts about his situation. In any case, where is it known to the viewer that Curtis was either involved in or heading up the assault or other critic team 18 months ago?

Net bottom line? 24 is a very entertaining fantasy based **somewhat** on reality. The magic words are: 'suspension of disbelief'.

Fair enough?

2,452 posted on 01/16/2006 11:07:21 PM PST by SAJ
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To: OXENinFLA

Please add me to your ping list for 24. Thank you.


2,453 posted on 01/16/2006 11:11:05 PM PST by miele man
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To: cstrikeseal
That's what I love about FR!

Gee, until now, I never even knew I had a radio show (well, aside from broadcasting hockey in 1972, of course).

It's always great to meet an old fan of those broadcasts!

FReegards!

2,454 posted on 01/16/2006 11:11:31 PM PST by SAJ
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To: ThinkDifferent
Chloe is a geek's dream girl. I bet she ends up with Jack though.

Until this season, I thought fer sher Chloe was asexual. I just about choked on my chips when I saw her in bed with that dweeb guy. What's even weirder was I thought he was too dweeby for Chloe.

2,455 posted on 01/16/2006 11:14:10 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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To: raygun

That was Sunday's premier.....I NEED the first hour of tonights....although I've sorta gotten the gist of it here....thanks.


2,456 posted on 01/16/2006 11:16:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Here in the Seattle area.....It's time to build Arks.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
#1 There might be separate frequencies so some accidental signal could not blow them all up.
#2 Government multifunctional phone with as you know, a nuclear battery.
#3 The Computer part was rebooting, not the phone part. This is not the Cingular phones we get.
#4 Airports are noisy with planes coming and going.
#5 To prevent the people there from using the stuff the way they wanted to without supervision I guess.
#6 The guy was a spook, so he took advantage of people thinking he was a hostage and then took off.
Remember that Jack never said he saw a blue guy with a yellow tie until after the operation went down.
#7 Blame Edger
#8 She was in a supposedly in a secured area for the signing.
#9 Again, the whole area is secured and was cleared. Nobody is suspected of having penetrated the perimeter at that point.
#10 The guy running CTU forgot, and it could be they had 18 code changes in 18 months.

#1 Jack figured the people carrying out the operations would not have let anyone go, but they did.

You could wait for an A&E marathon over two days after the season is over.
2,457 posted on 01/16/2006 11:18:10 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: silent_jonny

I think he could have contacted his old Chief of Staff who works for this President or the Secret Service Guy who used to guard him who now works for Logan.


2,458 posted on 01/16/2006 11:20:40 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nhoward14

Can we get Flank2 into the FR lexicon?

I don't know but I am using "YTG" from now on.


2,459 posted on 01/16/2006 11:30:54 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Chloe rocks!


2,460 posted on 01/16/2006 11:43:01 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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