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Shep Smith takes on roll of Emergency Management
Fox New | 9/2/05 | Fox News -Oriley

Posted on 09/02/2005 5:53:17 PM PDT by konaice

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To: kempster
I don't need Shepard Smith or Geraldo Rivera to let me know that these folks need help and I didn't need them to ask me to send help through the Salvation Army. And I sure the hell don't need Bill O'Reilly to look out for me and mine, I take care of that.

Having said that, I really don't watch much TV anymore, its always the same, the reporter becomes the story.

121 posted on 09/02/2005 6:41:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: konaice

Put me on the side that likes the coverage. So many people here bitch about Bill and Shep, but everyone seems to keep watching anyway.


122 posted on 09/02/2005 6:45:06 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: jwalsh07
I really don't watch much TV anymore

I'm glad you pointed that out. I thought that someone had you tied to a chair with news shows on TV and the remote on the other side of the room

123 posted on 09/02/2005 6:45:14 PM PDT by kempster
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To: serpentineshel
Secondly, I can't imagine that the hotel will have food, water and shelter for an additional couple of THOUSAND people.

They said there's 30 thousand at the Convention Center so if each reporter is going to take two thousand back to their room...they're going to need more reporters, not less. /sarcasm

If I were there I would be organizing a breakout. Geraldo is tame. He's just projecting the emotions of the people around him instead of interviewing 30,000 people one at a time. I guess some people just don't want to know that this is a horrible tragedy and it's happening now and the authorities (whoever you want to name) aren't getting it done. A lot of camps could have been built and a lot of buses could have run in six days time. They don't have to be nice just get them out of the disaster area.

124 posted on 09/02/2005 6:47:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: SolarisRocks

Good point. Every time Shep reported I couldn't help but notice how calm and controlled the crowd at the interstate was compared to the reports of chaos at the Superdome and the Convention Center. Those people there with him showed more patience and dignity than I could have imagined.

The only thing they seemed to be was safe from the looters and armed thugs roaming the streets of the city.


125 posted on 09/02/2005 6:48:23 PM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: kempster
I'm glad you pointed that out. I thought that someone had you tied to a chair with news shows on TV and the remote on the other side of the room

Get your thinker fixed. And while you're in the garage have them check out the part of you that needs Sheperd Smith and Geraldo Rivera to let you know that something terrible happens when a Cat 4 hurricane strikes a city built in a bowl.

126 posted on 09/02/2005 6:50:39 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I don't need Shepard Smith or Geraldo Rivera to let me know that these folks need help and I didn't need them to ask me to send help through the Salvation Army.

Amen.

127 posted on 09/02/2005 6:53:47 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: jwalsh07

Then, like you pointed out, dont' watch tv. Period.


128 posted on 09/02/2005 6:56:00 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I used to take the highroad, but the altitude gave me nose bleeds....)
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To: TigersEye

Exactly..It was a ridiculous suggestion. The news people are serving a specific purpose for us and I think Shep has been doing an exceptional job under extraordinary circumstances.

They'll need a HELL of a lot more reporters!!LOL! The people who are recommending that these people follow him out are short sighted and must not have a real grasp of the situation. It's not like the city of New Orleans doesn't work, but the minute you get outside the city, voila! Electricity, water, food! Utopia! The damage is widespread.

I also agree with you that a lot more needs to be done...but also that a lot more could have been done by now. And should have been done before-hand. There were at least 4 days to prepare the city for this. They knew it was coming. Even if a direct hit were not emminent, they knew they would have major damage. When you look at this picture:

http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Current/TRCkatrina240_N5.jpg

You KNOW you will need the National Guard. There should have been MANY more troops ready. They should have used the parking lot full of buses that got flooded to evacuate more people before the storm hit. There are too many should haves.


129 posted on 09/02/2005 6:57:12 PM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Then, like you pointed out, dont' watch tv. Period.

No offense but I don't need your as a consigliere any more than I need Shepard Smith or Geraldo Rivera to be my conscience.

130 posted on 09/02/2005 6:57:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: WarPaint

Monday night Shep was partying because the hurricane had gone through -- Tuesday NO started to flood so that is Day One and today is Friday which is Day Four. Shep didn't find those people until Wednesday BTW so where do you and others get off saying he had been there for five days.


131 posted on 09/02/2005 6:58:58 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: Prospero

Well said WRT reporters. Orlando Salinas has been solid and professional from the beginning. I've never been a big Shepard Smith fan and his last couple of days of reports have reminded me why.


132 posted on 09/02/2005 6:59:49 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Pardon me while I have a strange interlude. " - Captain Jeffrey T. Spaulding)
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To: konaice
It will probably be a long time before we know what actually happened, and is happening at the sites from where Shep and Geraldo are reporting. We are getting only the perspective of someone who says what he sees with his own eyes. They have no access to any other information.

When the time comes, that is, when this emergency is over, I have a question. Why did the people who were ordered to evacuate not follow orders? For understanding what to do in the future, it seems to me that is more fundamental than any problem of logistics.

133 posted on 09/02/2005 7:00:44 PM PDT by Marylander
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To: serpentineshel
There are too many should haves.

And far too many Monday Morning Quaterbacks without all the facts at hand.

Perhaps we can save the energy being devouted to assigning blame until a day or two after an area the size of Great Britain has been secured?

134 posted on 09/02/2005 7:01:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: tarheelswamprat
I would concur that O'Reilly seemed relatively cool and collected in comparison to Shepard Smith and Geraldo, but only by comparison, because both of them were near the edge at times.

Yeah, Whorealdo was in tears holding that baby. I will give him credit, however, for thinking in terms of solving the problem--he suggested letting them walk out. I didn't realize they couldn't! Heck, I would have found a way to walk out after the first day, or organized an effort to get the crowd to overwhelm the checkpoint at the exit. Forcing people to stay in deplorable conditions like that is something like what Hitler did to certain peoples in the 1940s.

However, I noticed a curious pattern throughout those segments, and also with Col. Hunt. Everytime one of them mentioned a specific mistake or failure to act on the part of the Governor of LA, O'Reilly's immediate response was to restate what they said but rephrase it saying "the federal government" failed to act quickly enough...

I was disappointed with Col. Hunt's report. I thought Phone Bill did a good job of trying to salvage his unorganized babbling. Bill lobbed a softball lead in and he just started an incoherent and irrelevant blather. I wouldn't put this guy in charge of a potato peeling squad. What was the crap about some LA nat'l guard being deployed to Iraq? That's irrelevant. The governor didn't mobilize the entire force she had access to. What was the crap about the LA nat'l guard not going in until they were federalized? The governor doesn't have to have her troops federalized--she commands them (unless they are federalized, which they weren't). O'Reilly's summary, which Col. Dingbat succinctly agreed with, was that the governor failed to mobilize her troops. That has seemed pretty obvious to me for the past four days.

I do have to wonder why nat'l guard or, at the governor's request, federal forces, didn't (and still don't) air drop water where groups of people are clustered. Fecal matter oh dear! One doesn't have to be an intelligence or expert to identify areas where victims have gathered (they have had air assets overhead ever since the storm passed on), you don't need to be a logistics guru to understand basic human needs (water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink), and you don't need to be an ace bombardier to shove a pallet of botted water aiming for an open spot near the targeted crowd. We dropped rations on Afghanistan from the opening moments of that conflict. Why can't we do the same for our people?

Finally, Bush's biggest screwup so far is his new tone was extended to treating the New Orleans mayor and LA governor as if they were competent. I realize he had to do so for a while, but one day of watching them bumblefock around should have been more than enough for him to trump them.

135 posted on 09/02/2005 7:02:57 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Marylander
Why did the people who were ordered to evacuate not follow orders?

I heard it explained one place, that the hurricane was a possibility. It was a 100% sure thing that if you left, the people around you would break in and take your things. Either way, the people in that situation were screwed.

136 posted on 09/02/2005 7:03:45 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight.)
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To: konaice

It hasn't even been five days since the hurricane hit. It hit Monday morning; no flooding until Tuesday (24 hours); Wednesday morning (48 hours); Thursday morning (72 hours); and Friday morning (96 hours) which equals four days. It won't even be five days until tomorrow morning when the hurricane hit the New Orleans area but we have people saying he has been on the ramp for five days.

Can't people count or are they so blind they will believe anything someone from the media tells them. Keep on shouting!


137 posted on 09/02/2005 7:03:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: Marylander

I will have another question to add to that....for the sick, elderly and people with no transportation who couldn't physically leave but wanted to:

Why couldn't the city use all of these buses to get those people out of the city?:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015

If they didn't have drivers....heck, give somebody a key and let them leave.


138 posted on 09/02/2005 7:04:34 PM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: serpentineshel

It's liberal/welfare policy in action. Dem voters who wanted a nanny state and they've got one. The city itself existed due to Fed taxpayers propping up the levee system. Liberal tolerance of diversity is in play too. The people are suffering additional extensive pain and danger due to the criminals they harbor and ignore amongst them. What kind of criminal laws and judges do you think they've voted for? It's a Marxist wet dream. (pun intended)


139 posted on 09/02/2005 7:05:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (BBQ is the answer.)
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To: jwalsh07

Perhaps you should go back to not watching TV.


140 posted on 09/02/2005 7:06:17 PM PDT by serpentineshel
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