Posted on 06/27/2005 1:58:30 PM PDT by churchillbuff
Do I feel safer because we've spent $300,000 ousting a tinpot dictator from a country that didn't threaten American freedom? No --- but I feel a h-ll of a lot less safe in my home because the Supreme Court says it's ok for government to seize it and give it to some politically connected friends of politicians.
Has Bush said ANYTHING about the Supreme Court's outrageous eminent domain decision last week? I want to hear about THAT, not another speech about the mess in Iraq.
I want freedom at home first -- freedom was subverted last week by the US Supreme Court.
Absolutely.
Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney all agree with me. They all say that there are no WMDs in Iraq. If that's wrong, and you know better, send them a telegram.
<<< Right now, the Supreme Court is the biggest threat to my freedom, because they've said I have no property rights.>>>
What do you want Bush to do about it? He can't reverse a Supreme Court ruling. The only thing he can do, and I think he will, is appoint some solid conservatives if and when some of the judges retire.
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destinations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters � the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
Where have you been for the last couple of years? Bush has been talking about Judges legislating from the bench! What is Bush saying something about this going to do? NOBODY likes what the supreme court did. Liberals, Conservatives, Losertarians... I was watching CSPAN this morning and some liberal couldn't believe that the liberal judges did this. Bush just needs to keep speaking of judges legislating from the bench, but doesn't need to specifically point out this issue. He could but doesn't HAVE to.
Yes. MY error.
Sorry about that...
He didn't even submit a brief to the Supreme Court asking them to rule in favor of the property owners. And - unless I'm wrong - he's said nothing about the decision since it came down. It's a far bigger threat to my freedom than tinpot Saddam was, yet all I hear from the administration is Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.
Totally agree with you.
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/01/22/25911.html
Saddam's super-cannon. Read up. Crazy stuff man.
Sure, their saying now there is not any, but there were WMD's in Iraq. Where they all went to, your guess is as good as mine..
hahaha i hear ya!
Well you crazy liberal, didn't we sell Saddam WMD's? IF so where are they?
Other than the "war on terror" (anyone, other than a Dem, in the office would have had to fight the war) GWB hasn't done much to further the appointment of Conservative Judges, ignores the illegal alien and the illegal vote problems, allowed several idiotic choices for Sen, such as the alleged Reps in Penn & Fla; and there is no talk about impeaching the judges who threw out the Constitution on eminent domain.
Seems there is a need for a Constitutional Amendment on a lot of issues. Problems include GWB's silence is condoning seizure of an individual's property for the benefit of another individual and the politicians who line their pockets under the guise of benefiting the public with the tax revenue. The added tax revenue in turn lines the pockets of the politicians' pals, if not themselves.
I think I'll take a few pills and go back to my asylum. The inmates in Washington are running the big asylum.
As well the Syrians who are storing them for safe keeping!
Lets remember Libya turning over all the nuclear program, equipment and plans, libs tend to brush that under the rug.
Saddam had the 4th largest military in the world until GW I. He was on the move and nobody among the major powers seemed interested in stopping him. Israel would have taken him on, and they were told to sit GW I out or they would have been in there. Saddam had enough left before GW II to start something with Israel and maybe finish it, too, if things went bad for Israel. Good he didn't wait until he actually had his nukes. The Samson Option might have happened.
Ahhhh...Bush's actions in Iraq are much more complicated than the several dissenting "strategic" thinkers of dissent are opineing in this forum.
Bush engaged both Afgahnistan and Iraq out of a change in overall foreign policy against terrorism "and" the tyrannical regimes and despot's that support them...remember the whole "National veils" will not protect the terrorist speech.
Previous to Bush's proactive, offensive, policy...the U.S. had a policy of "measured response"...i.e. a terrorist blows up the U.S.S. Cole, that idiot Clinton lobs a couple of cruise missiles to make things even...obviously 9/11 proved "measured response" didn't work.
While it is true that there is no linkage of Iraq to 9/11, what is true is Iraq habored terrorists (AL Ansar in North comes to mind), Zarqawi running from Afghanistan also...it's also true that Saddam's cash was being used to pay suicide bombers in Tel Aviv and elsewhere...and while Iraq has yet to reveal any WMD's, it did have the technical resources to build them...2+2= new foriegn policy against dangerous regimes= invade Iraq. How many U.S. Embassy's have been bombed in recent years? How many attacks on U.S. soil> ehhhhhhhhhh?
So how about you great ME strategic thinkers give Bush a break...alright?
I could go along with that. Especially if they start showing any signs of moving toward theocracy or socialism (or both).
Wasn't that Kurdish-controlled territory?
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