Posted on 06/18/2005 6:49:54 PM PDT by psimpson2005
Hello FR music fans. A light hearted thread for FReepers to discuss what music they have been listening to lately (old and new). It might be cool to be exposed to new music or old music that others might not have heard. Since I don't have a life, I'm home on a Saturday night listening to my local rock station (WRIF -Detroit).
On my way home from work this morning (4am) I listened to The Dark Side of the Moon. On an afternoon drive through the Michigan countryside with the family today, we listened to a best of Mozart cd. We listen to anything and everything, so long as it is good.
LOL---luckily, I was driving on the road close enough to my house, that I just stopped it--and got out and pushed it to the curb...it was a very quite neighborhood street...
Imagine if I had been on the freeway---I shudder to think...
The body was perfect, never been in a wreck, didn't even have a bunch of pings...
I drove that car to Boulder, Co. and back to the Dallas area about 5-6 times in just a few years...it even hauled a trailer with my belonging...although the higher altitude strained its little engine quite a bit...
But, I feel more proud of my Gremlin now that I found out that Karl Rove met President Dubya when he was given Dubya's keys to his Gremlin to move it at a function, back when #41 was President...yeppers, I drove the same kind of car that a future POTUS drove, right down to the denim upholstery!!! LOL
You're right, Peter Gabriel is insufferably pretentions and self-righteous.
Pretentious, affected, narcissistic and contrived are the salient, operative words of our times as far as I'm concerned. Oh, and phony!
I agree with the Buggles that "Video killed the radio stars". It's become a medium of posing, dancing and outfits and haircuts.
I'm currently listening to:
Soliloquy
by Michael Manring
JMHO: He's one of the most skilled, poetic, virtuoso electric-bassists currently on planet Earth...............
http://www.manthing.com/
The Doors is who I listened to today!
Love Me 2 times the last song!
Thanks! I was quoting Tim Wilson from one of his appearences on "The John Boy and Billy Big Show", when he was telling about when he met one of the guys from the Outlaws, and he taught him the guitar notes from the song. Tim says he asked the guy what the words were, and he said he didn't know...
"If you think that it's pretentious, you'll be taken for a ride." - It (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway)
From '80 to '86, he was a quirky, edgy new wave act. But starting with the 90s, he discovered therapy and World Music (don't get me started on that concept...) and just became another shrill shill for the 'progressive' global cause. I saw him on some late night comedy show a few months or years back--he'd become this weird, pasty fat guy in a Ming collared jacket singing sensitive-sounding crap. Sad.
His stuff with Genesis was painful, especially with the flower pot masks and the costumes.
I had not realized the connection.
You inspired me to spend a couple of hours tracking down some references,
as well as taking some enjoyable cyber-side-trips along the way.
snopes.com only denies that...
"'They stab it with their steely knives' was a swipe at Steely Dan, with whom, according to rumor, the Eagles were having an ongoing feud."Without giving any further explanation.
More info came to light in a Jan./89 issue of Metal Leg...
" What's the link between Steely Dan and the Eagles? Well, in an issue of Rolling Stone last September, Glenn Frey, discussing the song Hotel California, admitted Steely Dan's influence on the Eagles at the time. He said, "We liked the way Steely Dan would say anything (in a song). Steely Dan referred to the Eagles in Everything You Did so we decided to send them a message back. That's why we used the words, 'They can stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast.' "As well this from a Detroit Free Press interview with Henley/Frey...
Frey:On an AOL chat room interview in '94 Becker says...
"'They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast' was a little Post-It back to Steely Dan. Apparently, Walter Becker's girlfriend loved the Eagles and she played them all the time. . . . We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so 'Dan' got changed to 'knives.'
Here's a fine review of The Royal Scam by Robert Whyte
A little earlier in my search I had discovered the meaning of "The Fez" (who knew! lol)
I tend to agree with the reviewer...
"It might be goofy but I prefer the idea of a deviant Don Juan who will not take off his turkish hat to a paean on the virtues of prophylaxis."
It's interesting to note the different reactions of the characters in 'Everything You Did' and 'My Rival' when faced with a similiar situation.
Cheers
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Arthur Panhallow is still there. He does an afternoon shift on the station.
I haven't known much more about Minnie than the song "Loving You." I thought she had a sweet, pure voice. I can learn more about her on this site I found on Google:
http://www.minnieriperton.com/sub/lyrics.html
Maya is a comedian on SNL. She does impressions of Condi Rice, Teresa Kerry, Donatella Versaci, and many others. She plays characters of all races. She sings in the context of the comic character she's playing, but I don't know of her having performed or recorded anything. I loved her tribute to her deceased Mom on SNL several years ago. I hope they come out with a Best of Maya DVD.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page for a photo of Maya:
http://educationwonk.blogspot.com/2004/10/teresa-watch-weekly-roundup-926-102.html
Nothing worse than self-indulgent, artsy-fartsy, "sensitive" save the world and "world" music.
Go ahead, start on "world" music, I'd like to hear what you have to say.
I don't know if Cajun qualifies as "world" music, but a couple of weekends ago I was passing through part of Louisiana on the way to New Orleans from DFW and I enjoyed the homemade quality of some of the little Cajun music I could find on the radio. It seemed more "authentic".
Sometime in the mid 80s, I started noticing the emergence of singing groups from Africa and Central America showing up on the radar. Paul Simon was lauded for using a band called Ladysmith Black Mambazo on his Graceland album.
David Byrne produced several compilations of Brazilian artists. Peter Gabriel was using a lot of such musicians and musical styles on his albums. Some to good effect, I should admit. But the whole phenomenon just annoyed me.
On my college campus, rich little white kids were putting their hair in dreadlocks and listening to Peruvian bands (heavy with the pan flute, eck!) and extolling the virtues of diversity and tolerance. World music was so much more evolved, and the pedigree of intellect and culture, and the attitude was incredibly condescending.
Anyone embracing the world music thing virtually screamed, "Look how progressive and smart I am! I'm so clever, look at me applauding the primitive cultures!"
Now granted, I am a cranky broad. And twenty years ago, I was a younger, crankier broad with a real heavy dose of suburban punk rock nihilism. It struck me as so condescending and tedious, and so incredibly racist. Nothing is so transparently racist as a self-satisfied liberal extolling the charm and virtue of this "simply scrumptious band of sheep herders from the Andes! They actually MAKE their own instruments from the environment."
I'd see these NPR-listening idiots come into the record shop I worked at, head straight for the WM section and pick out the latest fad artist, which they'd indulge for as long as their attention spans could warrant, and then move on.
World music was held up as being so much more spiritual and important than, say, the Belgian industrial music I had a penchant for then. And while I argued that Belgian techno was as valid as some cow farmer from Portugal playing a zither, I still got the same answer: If it developed in a poverty stricken village in Central America or Africa, then it was automatically BETTER, more meaningful music.
Anything western was to be dismissed as shallow, too logical and technical (because feelings are where its at) and, for lack of a better term, too white.
My music moods change pretty regularly. ;-)
Ooo you are SO right.. The Transfer IS one of the best vocal groups ever..I first heard of them in the fall of 1974, then bought their first album with BLUE CHAMPAGNE on it ;>) in early summer of 1975; probably the first day that it was released. (still have all my vinyl albums from that era too~.)
Do you remember their summer television show in the summer of '76? THAT was excellent.. I sure wish I could find videotapes of that show..but that was before VCR's; so it's sorta doubtful that these would even be floating around somewhere.
Janis Siegal truly is one of the finest vocalists ever... heh ~ she brought down the house when they performed "A Tisket A Taskit"...MAN~ If I had my eyes closed, I woulda SWORN it was Ella !
Heh..but I still miss Laurel Masse. Her voice was superb. oh well.. Cheryl is awright too.
Have you heard the Transfer's newest cd ? I don't yet have it.. BUT it's called "Viberate" (ok..no bad jokes here) One line in the song is "I've got my cell on Viberate for you".. ok yeah.. it's hokey as all get out.. BUT the WAY they sing this song! They performed it in concert here last Saturday. MAN..this is the FINEST 4 part harmony song they have recorded in years ~
Yeah.. The Manhattan Transfer are still simply fine; even after 32 years together. ~ Well; I hafta say that it's great find another Transfer Fan!
It does annoy that "World Music" seems to be largely confined to one continent.
And that's where I got my nickname.
I do remember their summer show, which was very short-lived. And, by the way, there is a DVD available (and a VHS, as well) called Vocalese Live - a concert filmed in Japan. Very enjoyable.
I don't have their latest CD yet, but I sure plan on owning it.
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
oooo a DVD of "Vocalese" ? - I hafta see this; I had not even known that there WAS a DVD like this in existence.. I DO have a few of thier LIVE albums; including the one that was released a few years ago called -"Man-Tora"; which was also recorded in Japan. It seems; if I'm not mistaken.. that all of their live albums have been recorded in Japan ~
But; yeah.. "Vocalese" is fulla great tracks.. love anything by Eddie Jefferson..Sonny Rollins..this is album is a great tribute to them. (also to Lambert,Hendricks and Ross)
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