Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1565) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | May 4, 2005 | All of Us

Posted on 05/04/2005 4:52:19 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!!

Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of the Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

Yesterday, we had quite the debate over global warming and whether it was real or not. At least in this forum, it can be said the antagonists of the theory won the day over the protagonist that tried to press his or her position.

Which brings us to a bigger question, what of environmentalism, and are conservatives inherently against it?

Well, that's sort of asking: "Do you like to breathe dirty air, drink dirty water, and walk through dirty landscapes?" Of course not, that's silly on its face.

Yet, that is the argument that is consistenty and vehemently postulated by the leftists in America--only THEY can protect the environment. Only THEY have the responsibility to protect the non-human species that wander the planet. If it were not for THEM, species other than humans would cease to exist.

Well, like yesterday's debater, it helps to come to the table with some facts.

Here's some dealing with the radical environmental movement.

Today, there is a story where windmills are being opposed in Wisconsin. Clean energy, right? Taking it from the wind, not burning fossil fuels? Taking a premium off of what nature sends around anyway? What can be wrong with that? Birds--the windmills will kill birds.

Global warming. That debate is less about science than about control, how to run everyone's lives. This becomes evident when you review some of the meetings. New science keeps emerging, and this is probably real science, that forces changes in the "theory" of global warming. But these people don't go "wait a minute, we need to study more to find out what's the best course of action," no, that's already been decided--control of the masses. The theory is revised, but in such a way that still requires draconian people control.

Recycling. A nice hot button here. But, guess what? There's been some information coming out lately that recycling is acutally more harmful than creating the product new in the first place. Seems the radical environmentalists forgot to factor in the transportation of the waste material to recycling places, the chemicals used in recycling, disposal of those chemicals, and so on and so on.

Car pooling, and mass transit in general. Sounds good, move large masses of people with trains and busses. One problem: what happens when that capacity fills up? THEIR answer: build more. All right, where? The problem is, mass transit allowed suburban areas to explode, and in the process pushed land values up like a rocket. Statistics have not been researched for this piece, but it would not be surprising if mass transit was the number one contributor to both suburban growth and property value increases generally. And those people have to be supplied. They are supplied by trucks. Trucks that now fill our Interstates, for which we have no more room to build for them because of the lack of foresight. Traffic is gridlocked with no solution--because the mass transit capacity is choked. Net result? Massive increases in air polution.

Enter the Clean Air Act. Now if there was ever a case in mass hypocracy, this is it. The left creates the urban smog soup from their failed efforts with car pools and mass transit, forgetting about the need to provide pavement (busses have to go somewhere you know) and rail (prohibitively expensive, you should know) in advance, and then they say "clean it up"! HOW? Our cars cannot move, the trucks are stalled on the highways belching soot, and we are told it is our fault.

Baloney. This country is straining under two decades of failed policy efforts on the part of the "green" movement. Our cities were, for a while, becoming "green", but are now, once again, moving to brown. Yet governments persist in the failed policies. The Commonwealth of Virginia, for example, has (finally!) authorized two more lanes for Highway 495. Sadly, they are to be "High Occupancy Toll" lanes. Have three or more souls, free, otherwise you get socked.

Having witnessed these lanes in both New York City and Georgia (although you don't have to pay a toll there), they are abject failures. No one is using critical concrete, and the allowable lanes are clogged with cars and trucks, continuing to contribute to the smog overhang. Georgia is more liberal than the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway--you only need two people. And yet, during my trip to Alanta I could observe they were essentially EMPTY during rush hour.

High Occupancy Vehicle programs have been pursued for almost three decades. Isn't it time to say "ENOUGH" and accept THEY ARE NOT WORKING!?

We need to find ways to get cars and trucks moving, and that means concrete. Will the areas around the new pavement grow, certainly. But isn't that how we manage to prosperity? Isn't staying stagnant a recipe for ultimate demise: "a man who stands still is bound to be run over."

Indeed, the procurment and placement of asphalt would lead to the environmentalist's mantra: the solution to polution is dilution. Spread it out. Move the cars and trucks, then the exhaust won't turn to brown soup.

But that leaves the question, is the right "right" on environmentalism? Well, we don't hate the environment. Indeed, we honor a quaint old idea: husbandry. Use what God provides, and make sure we leave it in a state where it is usable.

This can be leveraged. It has been shown that when a company is given exclusive rights to an area, they manage it well. Tree farms are cut appropriately because the paper company wants to stay in business. The fisheries that are given regions to work in the sea strive to protect fish to the extent it allows their business to flourish. These work, they should be pursued.

The problem is, it turns the locus of control to individuals, and that the radical environmental movement cannot allow for it forces them to concede both that they were wrong and their power they wield.

But like the birds in Wiconsin, we will fly around their windmills.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: atrw; letsroll
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 321-339 next last
To: Molly Pitcher

Thanks for link Molly. Glad we re-signed CC Frankly I am surprised. Cleveland's criteria for trading a player seems to be that they are doing a great job... keep the marginal & poor ones.. are they good, popular, ..... TRADE EM


21 posted on 05/04/2005 5:39:28 AM PDT by DollyCali ("Thank you for your ANSWERS". POTUS to press at end of Presser 28April05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: DollyCali; kassie; All
LOL! It's depressing all right, Dolly...

Establishing a constitutional right to social liberalism Ben Shapiro

22 posted on 05/04/2005 5:41:23 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: knockoutoption

Is someone talking to me?


23 posted on 05/04/2005 5:42:22 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: knockoutoption

"I won :) "

No you didn't.
You lost.
And haven't the guts or the brains to realize that.
But, do go on, as you amuse us mightily.


24 posted on 05/04/2005 5:42:59 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Great opening Chair. Regarding the windmills/birds issue; I wonder how it is dealt with in Liberal California? I remember acres and acres of them outside Stockton!

Good morning all!

25 posted on 05/04/2005 5:43:04 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
As science was one of my undergrad degrees, I can attest to the fact of the many lies, misrepresentations I learned (but of course did NOT realize it at the time). The thought there would be falsehoods simply did not enter my mind.

Later as a college INSTRUCTOR I - as well as every other prof -- can tell you that I was free to chose the text books I wanted ..and I did find ones to "fit my agenda".. with science as well as many other fields.. you can have epxerts make a statement/decision based on whatever body of research they chose to consider, or conveniently ignore. one can have a large group supporting one idea & others as "prestigious" supporting 180.

The best advice to any student beginning college is "DO NOT BELIEVE MOST OF WHAT YOU READ, HEAR STUDY".
26 posted on 05/04/2005 5:45:18 AM PDT by DollyCali ("Thank you for your ANSWERS". POTUS to press at end of Presser 28April05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knockoutoption
Oh, no you don't! That is a shabby liberal trick, and you aren't going to get away with it.

By the way, could you explain the global warming mechanism that just killed a large chunk of Iowa Granny's perennial garden?

27 posted on 05/04/2005 5:45:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Appropriate?

Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning wheel
As the images unwind
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

28 posted on 05/04/2005 5:46:52 AM PDT by lysie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: knockoutoption

Thanks for joining us here yesterday to spout such nonsense.


29 posted on 05/04/2005 5:47:15 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

A newbie troll.


30 posted on 05/04/2005 5:47:49 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: lysie

Lysie, I just got dizzy after reading your poem! LOL!


31 posted on 05/04/2005 5:48:51 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Holding Our Breath

;-)


32 posted on 05/04/2005 5:49:24 AM PDT by lysie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Peach
Whoa! How do you find the time?

Just the rantings of a vast right wing conspirator based on his observations of things which, according to the left, I am not smart enough to understand.

I am apparently suppose to believe they got it right with global warming based on how right they got it with urban air pollution, energy production, electric production, so-called clean air vehciles (they are not, they are FILTHY, but again we have not been told the whole story).

It has nothing to do with the environment; it has everything to do with power and control.

Sadly, though, on the left many of the dolts actually believe it is the former so much so they cannot see it really is the latter.

33 posted on 05/04/2005 5:50:12 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

The dolts on the left drink their kook aid and believe everything they are told and don't notice that the story changes when the science can't back up the baseless theories.


34 posted on 05/04/2005 5:51:28 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Molly Pitcher; Neets

>>There's a certain baseball thread

Does this comply with the Treaty of Stamford?


35 posted on 05/04/2005 5:53:52 AM PDT by The Raven (Liberalism is a verifiable weapon of mass destruction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

Heh!


36 posted on 05/04/2005 5:56:24 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Shut up Hillary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
"Which brings us to a bigger question, what of environmentalism, and are conservatives inherently against it?"

Excellent opening, Mr. Chairman! When I was growing up in Wisconsin in the 50's and 60's, we practiced "Conservation" and were laughed at by the Oh-So-Chic Liberals as plaid shirt-wearing hicks from the sticks. Then, in the late 60's, "Ecology" became the cause celeb and these same liberals were running around mindlessly mouthing "eco-this" and "eco-that".

One borderline flower child asked me at a party what I was studying at college. I said, "Electrical Engineering". She asked, "Why not become an Eco-Engineer?" I asked her, "What does an eco-engineer do?" She said, "Oh, he saves the planet and does all sorts of nice things!" I suddenly realized I needed another drink and excused myself.

The radical environmentalists, in their mindless drive towards green, have caused incredible disasters as unintended consequences of their "good intentions". And typically, their response is that they meant well and it will just take more money to solve it.

End of rant!

37 posted on 05/04/2005 5:57:16 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Peach

Kook aid. LOL!

Very apt description.


38 posted on 05/04/2005 5:57:53 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Shut up Hillary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
You are a perfect example of conservative thinking - clear, consise, factual and sensible!! Great opening Chair!

You handed the liberal ecco-freaks their fuzzy heads this morning! Way to go!

39 posted on 05/04/2005 5:59:12 AM PDT by bevlar (Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: prairiebreeze

I'm surprised he even stuck his head out again.


40 posted on 05/04/2005 5:59:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 321-339 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson