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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1565) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | May 4, 2005 | All of Us

Posted on 05/04/2005 4:52:19 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!!

Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of the Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

Yesterday, we had quite the debate over global warming and whether it was real or not. At least in this forum, it can be said the antagonists of the theory won the day over the protagonist that tried to press his or her position.

Which brings us to a bigger question, what of environmentalism, and are conservatives inherently against it?

Well, that's sort of asking: "Do you like to breathe dirty air, drink dirty water, and walk through dirty landscapes?" Of course not, that's silly on its face.

Yet, that is the argument that is consistenty and vehemently postulated by the leftists in America--only THEY can protect the environment. Only THEY have the responsibility to protect the non-human species that wander the planet. If it were not for THEM, species other than humans would cease to exist.

Well, like yesterday's debater, it helps to come to the table with some facts.

Here's some dealing with the radical environmental movement.

Today, there is a story where windmills are being opposed in Wisconsin. Clean energy, right? Taking it from the wind, not burning fossil fuels? Taking a premium off of what nature sends around anyway? What can be wrong with that? Birds--the windmills will kill birds.

Global warming. That debate is less about science than about control, how to run everyone's lives. This becomes evident when you review some of the meetings. New science keeps emerging, and this is probably real science, that forces changes in the "theory" of global warming. But these people don't go "wait a minute, we need to study more to find out what's the best course of action," no, that's already been decided--control of the masses. The theory is revised, but in such a way that still requires draconian people control.

Recycling. A nice hot button here. But, guess what? There's been some information coming out lately that recycling is acutally more harmful than creating the product new in the first place. Seems the radical environmentalists forgot to factor in the transportation of the waste material to recycling places, the chemicals used in recycling, disposal of those chemicals, and so on and so on.

Car pooling, and mass transit in general. Sounds good, move large masses of people with trains and busses. One problem: what happens when that capacity fills up? THEIR answer: build more. All right, where? The problem is, mass transit allowed suburban areas to explode, and in the process pushed land values up like a rocket. Statistics have not been researched for this piece, but it would not be surprising if mass transit was the number one contributor to both suburban growth and property value increases generally. And those people have to be supplied. They are supplied by trucks. Trucks that now fill our Interstates, for which we have no more room to build for them because of the lack of foresight. Traffic is gridlocked with no solution--because the mass transit capacity is choked. Net result? Massive increases in air polution.

Enter the Clean Air Act. Now if there was ever a case in mass hypocracy, this is it. The left creates the urban smog soup from their failed efforts with car pools and mass transit, forgetting about the need to provide pavement (busses have to go somewhere you know) and rail (prohibitively expensive, you should know) in advance, and then they say "clean it up"! HOW? Our cars cannot move, the trucks are stalled on the highways belching soot, and we are told it is our fault.

Baloney. This country is straining under two decades of failed policy efforts on the part of the "green" movement. Our cities were, for a while, becoming "green", but are now, once again, moving to brown. Yet governments persist in the failed policies. The Commonwealth of Virginia, for example, has (finally!) authorized two more lanes for Highway 495. Sadly, they are to be "High Occupancy Toll" lanes. Have three or more souls, free, otherwise you get socked.

Having witnessed these lanes in both New York City and Georgia (although you don't have to pay a toll there), they are abject failures. No one is using critical concrete, and the allowable lanes are clogged with cars and trucks, continuing to contribute to the smog overhang. Georgia is more liberal than the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway--you only need two people. And yet, during my trip to Alanta I could observe they were essentially EMPTY during rush hour.

High Occupancy Vehicle programs have been pursued for almost three decades. Isn't it time to say "ENOUGH" and accept THEY ARE NOT WORKING!?

We need to find ways to get cars and trucks moving, and that means concrete. Will the areas around the new pavement grow, certainly. But isn't that how we manage to prosperity? Isn't staying stagnant a recipe for ultimate demise: "a man who stands still is bound to be run over."

Indeed, the procurment and placement of asphalt would lead to the environmentalist's mantra: the solution to polution is dilution. Spread it out. Move the cars and trucks, then the exhaust won't turn to brown soup.

But that leaves the question, is the right "right" on environmentalism? Well, we don't hate the environment. Indeed, we honor a quaint old idea: husbandry. Use what God provides, and make sure we leave it in a state where it is usable.

This can be leveraged. It has been shown that when a company is given exclusive rights to an area, they manage it well. Tree farms are cut appropriately because the paper company wants to stay in business. The fisheries that are given regions to work in the sea strive to protect fish to the extent it allows their business to flourish. These work, they should be pursued.

The problem is, it turns the locus of control to individuals, and that the radical environmental movement cannot allow for it forces them to concede both that they were wrong and their power they wield.

But like the birds in Wiconsin, we will fly around their windmills.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: atrw; letsroll
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To: Zavien Doombringer

That's why the M1 got rolled out.


201 posted on 05/04/2005 9:29:53 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
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To: Holding Our Breath
I actually had to run one of my two remaining brain cells up to 20% power to keep up with him. ;^

But as with all liberals, at some point, provided they keep out of the personal attacks, their arguments turn back on themselves. Then you get to have them for breakfast.

202 posted on 05/04/2005 9:31:51 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
You are certainly correct. I should have made myself clear about the run. I meant to keep up with the reading while here at wrok! @:)

It was fun to follow the smackdown...

203 posted on 05/04/2005 9:36:13 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Truly great opening today. Thank you.


204 posted on 05/04/2005 9:41:02 AM PDT by Radix (Make room for the coming impressive tag line.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Zavien Doombringer

Heck, I think I'll be waiting for him in thread.
*chuckle*


205 posted on 05/04/2005 9:48:36 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: Radix

I got revved up by an eko-wacko. :)


206 posted on 05/04/2005 9:53:02 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
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To: Darksheare

207 posted on 05/04/2005 10:00:58 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Zacs Mom

LOL!!

I like that pic, the cat looks perfect for it.


208 posted on 05/04/2005 10:02:53 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: Darksheare

You killed the thread. I guess everyone is exhausted after this morning's assault.


209 posted on 05/04/2005 11:14:27 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: kassie; Holding Our Breath; Iowa Granny
Thanks ladies.

Looks like I've missed all the excitement today.

Oh well.

I have a 2-hour break before my next lesson, going to spend it vegging on the couch.

bbl

p.s. I don't suppose one of you could run a bit of lunch over to me, could you??

No, I didn't think so.:(

Where's that boychild??? He owes me a favor.;^)

210 posted on 05/04/2005 11:21:31 AM PDT by MozartLover (Music isn't just learning notes and playing them.You learn notes to play to the music of your soul.)
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To: Iowa Granny
You killed the thread. I guess everyone is exhausted after this morning's assault.

Nah, it's like soldiers after a well earned battle victory--savoring the moment of victory!

211 posted on 05/04/2005 11:25:35 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (James Burnham--Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.)
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To: Iowa Granny

I saw that.
Killed it for awhile too.
:(

Seems to have been revived though.
And after the envirotroll's assault, yes.
I'm guessing everyone is somewhat exhausted to one degree or another.


212 posted on 05/04/2005 11:26:58 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: MozartLover

Darn, I wish I could.


213 posted on 05/04/2005 11:28:32 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: Iowa Granny

We're all out burning tires.
:)


214 posted on 05/04/2005 11:34:07 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: kassie

Get over here this very minute and help clean my screen!


215 posted on 05/04/2005 11:43:38 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny

;)


216 posted on 05/04/2005 11:46:05 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: MozartLover

Feel better soon, Mozie.


217 posted on 05/04/2005 1:42:29 PM PDT by lysie
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To: kassie

LOL


218 posted on 05/04/2005 1:43:30 PM PDT by lysie
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To: kassie; Neets; Iowa Granny
The 2 hours of being alone was spent well. I vacuumed the whole house and did a load of dishes. I'm happy.

Peter Paul on Sean's. He sounds quite determined that clintons knowingly broke the law regarding hard and soft money.

219 posted on 05/04/2005 1:46:55 PM PDT by lysie
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To: DollyCali
Hi Dolly,
 
You might think to consider the works of FF Bruce. I read some of his work in my college days. 
 
A couple of links are provided below .......
 
THE IMPORTANCE OF PAUL'S EVIDENCE
 
http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/ffbruce/ntdocrli/ntdocc06.htm
 
http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/bruce.htm
 
 

220 posted on 05/04/2005 1:55:13 PM PDT by Radix (Make room for the coming impressive tag line.)
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