Judgenfuhrer Greer: "I piss on the law and the Constitution.
Subpoenas for the US Congress aren't even worth a bucket of warm spit around here.
"18 USC Section 1505 - we urinate on it. Title 2 of the US code, we deficate on it."
Posted on 03/28/2005 8:02:29 AM PST by FR_addict
Florida governor says he doesn't have power from Constitution to intervene
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, the man said to be the last hope for Terri Schiavo, says he's powerless to help the brain-injured woman who has been without nourishment for more than nine full days.
"I cannot violate a court order," Bush told CNN following Easter church services. "I don't have powers from the United States Constitution or – for that matter from the Florida Constitution – that would allow me to intervene after a decision has been made."
To Terri's parents, Bush said, "I can't. I'd love to, but I can't."
Speaking to the media for the first time in three days, the governor added, "I'm sad that she's in the situation that she's in. I feel bad for her family. My heart goes out to the Schindlers and, for that matter, to [her husband] Michael," Bush said. "This has not been an easy thing for any, any member of the family. But most particularly for Terri Schiavo."
Meanwhile, protests have continued outside the hospice where Terri is being cared for. With security having been doubled, five people were taken into custody as pastors tried to bring Schiavo Easter communion.
A handful of people in wheelchairs got out of them and shouted, "We're not dead yet!" as they lay in the driveway.
Larry Klayman, founder of the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, said Bush has the power to grant her clemency, just as he would in a death-row case.
"We're asking the governor for a stay of execution on Easter Sunday, a day of mercy,'' Klayman said. "For Jeb Bush not to act would be a dereliction of his duty to the people of the state of Florida.''
Terri has been the subject of worldwide attention since Florida Judge George Greer ordered her feeding tube removed March 18, and courts have upheld his decision not to have the tube reinserted.
An attorney for Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, painted a grim picture of the situation on CBS' "Face the Nation."
"Terri is declining rapidly," Schindler attorney David Gibbs said. "We believe at this point she has passed where physically she would be able to recover."
But Randall Terry, a pro-life activist speaking for Terri's parents, called Gibbs' description "absolutely untrue."
George Felos, the attorney for Michael Schiavo says Terri's breathing has been regular, and her death does not appear imminent. He told reporters her remains would be cremated and buried in a family plot in Pennsylvania.
Is it fair to say it isn't the feeding tube that you're against, it's lower mental "capacity"? i.e., if a person on a feeding tube was proved to be of a certain mental awareness, you wouldn't advocate pulling their feeding tube? (that would equal murder to you?)
Heavenly Father - We are praying for a miracle even at this late hour - In the precious Name of Jesus Christ, our Savior. Amen.
Brilliantly said.
ROTFLMAO... If that is what passes as "Brilliantly said" then you've skipped right past 'unreasonable' and are heading full steam towards 'embarrassing'...
Another spasm of spastic muscle reaction! No sense upstairs.
Other than your lust for Nazi torture, it is not your diligence and accuracy that distinguishes you.
No, absolutely not! I'm against bridging the separation of powers between the three branches. I'm against letting emotion override the law.
"This just in ~ the legal system has found in favor of MS. The have found the Schindlers without merit, bordering upon frivolous. Further ~ state and federal appeals have been exhausted. Further ~ legislative intervention was futile. Further ~ executive intervention would be unconstitutional. Get over it."
...and further, the Republicans just lost their margin of victory, because they just threw away their pro-life credentials at the state and federal level in all three branches of government. Further, millions of discouraged and heartbroken pro-lifers believe they have been roped dopes. Further - they won't vote for the Republican party in the next election. Further - that means that the Democrats will pick up seats and win back power. Further - your taxes are going back up, all because the Republican party lied to a crucial constituency and turned into gutless wonders when the moment of truth and conflict came.
Without the solid support of the pro-life movement, the Republicans are a minority party, and the rest of your agenda goes up in smoke. Get over it.
Judgenfuhrer Greer: "I piss on the law and the Constitution.
Subpoenas for the US Congress aren't even worth a bucket of warm spit around here.
"18 USC Section 1505 - we urinate on it. Title 2 of the US code, we deficate on it."
Well, you're pretty much screwed, then, because unless you embrace your emotions and stop thinking clearly, and if you continue to try to interject rational arguments and facts into the conversation, well, you're a "nazi", a "Satan-worshipper", a "member of the cult of death", a "liberal" ad nauseum...
I believe the nazi's are on the extralegal side. Nazi sickos wouldn't have any fun torturing a veggie, vegetable or human.
You'll be safe on your mountaintop.
Fine, since you don't understand the difference between natural and positive law, I'll try it this way:
(From the Florida statutes):
Chapter 765 HEALTH CARE ADVANCE DIRECTIVES
765.106 Preservation of existing rights.
The provisions of this chapter are cumulative to the existing law regarding an individual's right to consent, or refuse to consent, to medical treatment and do not impair any existing rights or responsibilities which a health care provider, a patient, including a minor, competent or incompetent person, or a patient's family may have under the common law, Federal Constitution, State Constitution, or statutes of this state.
Florida Constitution)
ARTICLE I
DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SECTION 2. Basic rights.
All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty......
Odd, I don't see the quantifier 'ability to enjoy life' anywhere...just the RIGHT to enjoy life.
The right to DEFEND life is there as well...no one loses their natural rights just because they hold public office, so where's Jeb?
(you would also be disagreeing with the Florida Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court, and several courts in between).
The disagreement that I have is with people who think that whatever government calls 'law', IS law!
Yup. Put his tail between his legs and ran. I wasn't surprised either.
Still, he never would have stood a chance anyway. His crackhead daughter would have made sure that there would be enough scandal that it would be too costly for him to run. Wake up Republicans, we need to clean house. Either you are honest, brave and true to your ideals or we don't need you to run.
However, it was your xian buddy, bvd, who is judging me brain dead. Nice, tolerant xian.
On my mountaintop?
I've been like a World War I grunt in the trenches of the party for years. What just happened is that our generals ordered us into the guns, then retreated for no reason.
Like the other pro-lifers, I am exhausted and defeated and driven into the mud, and the dominant Republicans like you, who have clearly won this fight, are telling us in no uncertain terms not to let the door hit us on the way out.
We all lose.
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