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American Idol 2005--Live Thread
3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by silent_jonny

AMERICAN IDOL 2005
LIVE THREAD

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: americanidol; americanidolbo; babymamasfault; bo; carriewon; funpeoplethread; getseriesguys; idol; losethefatguy; texasflower; thedemiseoffr; weloveyoutammy
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To: kevkrom

Aha. Thanks for the heads up. I went over the the Idol message board and did find a mention of that, but the posters were only speculating.

I think Vonzelle has a great voice, though she is not my favorite. I'm betting Anthony goes tonight. I think he is such a super kid, I hate to see it. But, I am with the popular opinion that we will see Bo and Carrie as the final two.

Who knows though, stranger things have happened...


6,481 posted on 05/11/2005 9:46:03 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: StrictTime
Hope someone voted for Bo out there!!

A little over a hundred times.. Got distracted by The Amazing Race and running around town to get some last minute things for my daughter's school project, or it might have been more.
6,482 posted on 05/11/2005 9:54:00 AM PDT by kingu
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To: conservativebabe
I'm betting Anthony goes tonight.

Funny, I thought he was the only one worth voting for last night.

6,483 posted on 05/11/2005 10:02:47 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: freedumb2003
Simon said that Anthony "didn't have enough soul." Code for "too white."

I saw that when I watched the show (Pacific time). Unbelievable! Simon has never liked Anthony for some reason. Maybe now we know why.

6,484 posted on 05/11/2005 10:25:54 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: texasflower
It sounds like a good career move to me.

I think so, too.

6,485 posted on 05/11/2005 10:27:08 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Hildy
How'd she get out of it?

I don't know the details, but Clay Aiken actually blazed that trail. If I'm not mistaken, the AI winner's contract (at least in the beginning) was for one year. Clay found a way to get out of it after the year was up. He signed with the hottest agency in the business. It's called simply The Firm. Kelly followed Clay's lead and signed with The Firm in January.

I don't know if this part was true in the first two seasons, but it's been reported that the AI contract even has the kids sign over rights to their own names. Which means they don't even own the rights to "brand" themselves and earn money off merchandise with their names and faces. That sucks big time, because ads and merchandising is where artists make money that their record companies can't snatch from them.

6,486 posted on 05/11/2005 10:35:52 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar
I saw that when I watched the show (Pacific time). Unbelievable! Simon has never liked Anthony for some reason.

Simon likes Carey and is trying to protect her, IMHO. That was Anthony's best night which gives him a chance to last one more week. Bo is the only one who is safe tonight.

6,487 posted on 05/11/2005 10:41:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: kevkrom

That's really funny, in a sad, sick sort of way.


6,488 posted on 05/11/2005 10:44:08 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: I'm ALL Right!
That's really funny, in a sad, sick sort of way.

You ever laugh out loud while blushing at the same time? Well, now I have...

6,489 posted on 05/11/2005 10:45:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: Always Right; silent_jonny
Bo is the only one who is safe tonight.

I have to agree. I don't know what happened with Carrie on her 2nd song, but it was by far her worst performance of the competition. Simon tried to protect her by putting part of the blame on the band for the arrangement. But do they get to pick the arrangements? Or is the voice coaches? Or the performers? Rhetorical questions since I don't think this info has ever been made public.

Jonny, here's my take on last night, in order they performed.

Carrie: B and F
Bo: B and A
Vonzell: D and D
Anthony: A and A

Definitely an off night for Carrie. I didn't like either of her performances. Carrie hurt herself last night. The question is how badly.

I'll say it again about Bo. Appears to be a one-trick pony, but what he does, he does extremely well. The live audiences seem to absolutely adore him.

Vonzell was horrible last night. Frankly, I think she's had two horrible weeks in a row, and should have gone last week. But most people were tired of Scott by that point. Randy keeps trying to save her by claiming she makes the most difficult song choices. To which I say HORSE PUCKY!!! Randy is just making excuses for her horrible delivery, and is hoping the voter buy it. If I had my way, she'd be gone tonight.

Anthony: There's much to like about this kid. He's sweet, tries hard every week, and has natural talent. But he has much to learn about the craft of performing. He definitely should not go before Vonzell, but I think it's possible he may go tonight.

BTW, jonny, here's a photo of the latest National Enquirer cover. That's has JonBenet Ramsey on the cover. The resemblance between Carrie and JonBenet is spooky.


6,490 posted on 05/11/2005 11:05:34 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: silent_jonny

Here's the AOL poll results as of 2pm today.

They called Scott last week, but missed Lt. Dan the week before.

Bo - 52% - still on top an tough to beat.
Carrie - 34% - lost a little ground due to judge's slams.
Vonzelltasia - 11% - better than I thought
Anthony - 3% - Sang better but lost votes.

If these hold, it would mean Anthony gets the boot after one of his best nights. That would be a shame.
It just goes to show you that a big part of this competition is a "popularity contest."

My bet is still on Vonzell to go. (If we knew about the dog before the voting, I'd say otherwise.)


6,491 posted on 05/11/2005 11:11:39 AM PDT by TonyWpi ("There's nowhere to go but down!" - Monica Lewinski)
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To: silent_jonny
The scorecard is getting shorter and shorter :)

I know... which should make it easier to try and throw in the one-off witty comments, but I'm still rationing myself so I'll have some for future weeks. ;)

6,492 posted on 05/11/2005 11:15:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: TonyWpi

Funny that so many here (and the judges last night) are certain that Anthony sang the 2nd song better than Carrie. I think Carrie's performance was much better in that she showed feeling and emotion, as well as the fact that her voice is always more pleasing to listen to. You could actually believe she was singing the song to a real person. Anthony might have been technically OK, but the song was boring. I would like to know what the songwriters of the actual song who were in the audience thought. I bet they liked the first one better. Also Carrie's Dixie Chicks song almost made me turn on her. I thought it was a terrible rendition of a pitiful song from a treasonous group.


6,493 posted on 05/11/2005 11:18:00 AM PDT by Elvina
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To: Elvina
I think Carrie's performance was much better in that she showed feeling and emotion

Feeling and emotion? A wind-up doll has more feeling and emotion than Carrie does.

6,494 posted on 05/11/2005 11:19:46 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: silent_jonny
That's why I say performing the same song on the same night shouldn't be allowed. It will always make one of the singers look really bad. Not fair.

In this instance, I disagree, BECAUSE, Simon said he blamed the band for the horrid arrangement. Had Anthony not performed the same song we would not have had a comparison. His arrangement was better, and I think it allowed for him to have a better rendition.

For me, and hopefully others, this showed that Simon was right about the band. This may have saved some votes for Carrie because voters could make a comparison and decide for themselves that had Carrie performed the other version, she would have done much better. jmo

Also, for what its worth, there have been times when one them has done a song and I had wished a different person would do the same song for exactly that reason. For a comparison. I wish they would have a week where all of the contestants did have to perform the same song.

6,495 posted on 05/11/2005 11:23:59 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Wolfstar
Simon said that Anthony "didn't have enough soul." Code for "too white."

I saw that when I watched the show (Pacific time). Unbelievable!

I keep seeing this repeated and I think what was meant was depth, heart and not the color of his skin. I think Simon considers Anthony to be, not ready. Which he isn't even though a lot of us like him, including myself.

6,496 posted on 05/11/2005 11:36:24 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: TonyWpi
Vonzelltasia - 11% - better than I thought

I like Vonzell better than Fantasia. Course, that isn't saying much.

6,497 posted on 05/11/2005 11:38:21 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen

I agree Anthony is not ready. I don't agree he has no depth or heart -- no "soul." Of course, only Simon knows what he really meant. But it came across to me as a bigoted statement.


6,498 posted on 05/11/2005 11:39:53 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Netizen
I think Simon considers Anthony to be, not ready. Which he isn't

If I were a record prodcuer, out of the top 12, I'd sign Carrie, Vonzelle, and Anthony. None of them are ready, but those three have the talent to be decent development projects.

6,499 posted on 05/11/2005 11:42:53 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: silent_jonny
The laugh of the day. There are far too many people out there who are just clueless. Here's a post copied verbatim from the AI boards today. This just has to be a future Dem voter:

From: iluvcon9, 3:41 pm
To: ALL, 1 of 5
Message #: 521311.1

last night they were talking about how they were really sad about scott leaving and all and they were getting a lot of complaints or something. well when con left all he said was "oh so you actually care?" i mean that was when they were REALLY getting complaints! i dont get ai!


6,500 posted on 05/11/2005 12:54:18 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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