Posted on 03/06/2005 5:51:37 AM PST by speling be champiun
Well? . .
Where are the Gina Lollobrigida's!!?? (look her up on your new-fangled google ya bunch of whippersnappers!)
That's a very common observation in sociology and some would say it's related to class and what men of a particular class view as the 'ideal' woman. I've noticed men from the South, black and white alike, like a woman with a little more meat on her bones especially in the back. Didn't the phrase 'childbearin' hips' come from there?
That was an AWESOME movie.
We live in a superficial world and a person's looks are sometimes trumped by who a person really is and what they have to offer.
If it didn't, it should've.
You are describing the effect WalMart had on our town. Now the ladies in town are down to a few bridal shops and their (Walmart's)clothes racks or very expensive boutiques.
Thankfully, there are still a couple of surviving farm supply stores where a guy can get a real shirt, but if I want to buy a suit (rarely wear them) I have to go elsewhere, and that is at least 120 miles away.
Kate Winslet.. even Renee Zellweger who doesn't look right to me being so thin.
FOFL! If you look like him, facially, too, then you're in business! Heh heh. I may not be as hot as Sophia Loren (at least, that who it looked like to me), but Mr. Ex doesn't complain, so I don't, either. LOL
I love to see pictures of hollywood babes from days past- they were beautiful women. Although makeup and clothes can hide and disguise flaws, I am pretty sure back then what you saw was what you got...as opposed to now...if the young girls with impossibly thin bodies cannot starve, use drugs to supress their appetite to lose weight (that they don't need to lose), be surgically enhanced OR reduced OR both, they can be airbrushed/digitally altered in any photo to attain the complete perfection that is impossible even for young babes. I am amazed by beautiful women who lived in a world where you were really beautiful. Perhaps there was plastic surgery in those days, but not on the level it is used now.
You are right.
Exactly! A little curve is what makes a woman a woman!
Go back to the Victorian age. Women as thin as those today would have been considered sickly, and most definetly would not have caught the eye of any suitor.
My, how things have changed. And, I hold the MSM responsible. If they were to begin the trend of only using what they deem 'plus size models', (you know - 'real women'),it would take one month for curves to be in, and the thin to be out.
I am willing to bet if Hollywood stuck their neck out, only hired curvey women, the tide would turn.
BUT, how to ever convince THEM of anything!
While I do love Kate and Renee, they make it hard on the rest of us. Especially when they gain weight for one role, then quickly get it back off for the next project - lest they be out of the running. For one thing, as a dieter and Nutritional consultant who has been there done that - they have no idea what they are doing to their bodies.
Remember when we were little and would cross our eyes and mom would say,'stop doing that or they'll freeze that way'? Much the same thing. The body can only take so much yo-yoing, and it will revolt!
Yo-yo dieting is the worst and for us women can be bad for the heart. Oprah looked damned good for the Oscars but she never seems able to keep it off, and she has millions of dollars at her disposal. I know what my healthy size is, and I've been very slim and still didn't have a stick figure body. The women in hollywood can't be themselves. If you want to be yourself, you pay the price in terms of getting roles and appearing in magazines. I'm getting less and less envious of those women because they can't be themselves. I have cellulite from bad eating but my fat isn't going to be on the front cover of Enquirer (thank God!).
Come to think about it, the guitar is a rather sensuous instrument.
And now that you mention that, I think that's why I kinda like them. ;)
I read your entire Post #71 and want to compliment you on your continuing effort to stay trim and fit. My wife has been fighting her weight since our daughter was born in 1985.
She has given up to try losing weight and won't or can't take any criticism. I know it is not healthy for her. Even her closest friends have tried to get her to exercise more, but she just blows them off and refuses to do anything to lose a few lbs.
Anna Nicole Smith killed them and ate them.
"Some women are neurotic about weight after they're married because of a little insecurity. I dunno... I think a lot of women are nuts in general about size"
This is once again back to MSM. Every magazine, t.v. show, movie - tells us if we are not a size 2, we are not acceptable. Then, you get married, and realize if you do not stay the size 2(especially after the babies come) you may be faced with a husband who will go elsewhere to seek pleasure.
Hallie Berry? SHE WAS CHEATED ON, and is now divorced! If she has to deal with it - there is not much hope for the rest of us.
"It's weird. Most of my fellow lower-middle class suburbanites like to see a woman with meat on her bones. But all the women I see in the high end country club subdivisions I work in are all bone skinny."
It's due to two things. Lower middle class cannot afford the gym memberships (usually), and to eat the way you should (organic, fat free, etc.) Takes cash. Notice how the low priced food which are not healthy makes it into the carts of those on a budget?
Now, consider the high enders. They can have the nanny watch the kids while they go spend time with their personal trainer,and have someone prepare their meals so they don't have to think about what they are eating. They simply tell them their goals, and all is provided.
Classism plays a big role in who is 'in' and who is 'out'.
AND...glad to hear you say that last part. If I were a man, I would not want my woman to look like everyone else. Curves make us who we are! Thank you , Vigilantcitizen!
Actually, fresh produce is cheap, at least it is around here. So is chicken. What it takes to produce healthy, real food is time. It's alot easier to make creamed potatoes out of a box than it is out of real "taters".
Your other points about high/lower class are quite valid.
AND...glad to hear you say that last part. If I were a man, I would not want my woman to look like everyone else. Curves make us who we are! Thank you , Vigilantcitizen!
You're welcome. ;)
That's the whole thing, HEALTHY! Each and every one of us has a healthy place to be - the place God made us to be. If you diet, lose, and still keep going back to one particular size range, chances are that's where you are supposed to be - as long as you are doing HEALTHY things for your body!
Healthy+Happy=who U R supposed 2 B!
You know, you are right. Time makes a big difference, and if you are a working mom, who has time to prepare a meal when you've been gone for 10 hours, ahve homework to help with, a house to clean, yada, yada, yada. Frozen dinners are too convenient!
But, that's back to classism. If you have the money and do not have to work - well you get the picture.
And, not to leave out working dad's. They have just as much put on them! (At least the good one's do.)JK
Don't bother looking for them at your local Hooter's either. You'll find a group of young humans whose waist and hip measurements are equal, sporting large quantities of silicone.
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