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The Hobbit Hole XX - And take the hidden paths that run...
The Freeper Hobbit Hole ^

Posted on 03/05/2005 11:51:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

And take the hidden paths that run...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Ramius

You = you personally. I got "my" first own private computer when I was 10, a hand-me-down from Dad. Had been using them since I was 6 or so which is why I am one of the few people my age who remembers things like Windows 3.1 or DOS games.


2,041 posted on 03/16/2005 8:20:09 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

Roger that.

It's going to be an astonishingly short time before nobody you know remembers working a computer from a command line. Its starting to happen already.

Its a good thing for you that you really did start out at least learning to work a machine in DOS. For some reason I think it remains an important perspective on the nature of the beast.


2,042 posted on 03/16/2005 8:28:06 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

When I have to deal with a Linux system, I use the command line there. I dislike trying to deal with the various *nix GUIs, I'd rather remember my half-score stupid little three-letter commands. (All right, so I have a cheat sheet of all the important tasks that have to be done on our *nix system....)

Heh, but most people don't even know how to get a Windows command line...


2,043 posted on 03/16/2005 8:31:49 PM PST by JenB
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To: Ramius; JenB
As long as there's Unix, there will be a command line.
2,044 posted on 03/16/2005 8:32:27 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

There had better be. I can't stand the thought of losing the ability to use such intuitive, easy commands as grep or awk - heck, I usually have to ask the Unix geek to remind me of the print command...


2,045 posted on 03/16/2005 8:41:29 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
What could be easier to remember than lpr? (Or is it something else in Linux?)

BTW, I use CMD in Windows all the time on the job. It's the easiest way to check currnet IP settings and reset them when necessary (using ipconfig).

2,046 posted on 03/16/2005 8:44:50 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

It was lp the last time I used it. "print" would be easier.

I use the command line to check ip stuff, too, and occasionally for other things but not as much as the Linux command line.


2,047 posted on 03/16/2005 8:47:41 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
ehh, you just need to remember that "lp" stands for "line printer". Really, it does!
2,048 posted on 03/16/2005 8:50:49 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; JenB

But lpr isn't nearly so intuitive when the person using it hasn't ever used a 'lineprinter'.

Heck, we're only one generation away from losing all reference to "grep".

Grep that. :-)


2,049 posted on 03/16/2005 8:52:19 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I was told the l might stand for line but the p did not stand for print or printer, but the guy might have been trying to see what he could get me to believe.

Anyway, who cares about lines, I want the whole stinkin' document...


2,050 posted on 03/16/2005 8:52:34 PM PST by JenB
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Oops.


2,051 posted on 03/16/2005 8:52:56 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: JenB

"lpr" does in fact stand for "lineprinter". Back from the days when zippy-zippy dot-matrix printers only ever thought that they'd have to print out one line of text at a time, instead of a whole page.

I'm still not convinced that literary output quality has improved in the meantime.


2,052 posted on 03/16/2005 9:00:04 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius; JenB
You know, the first computer "Adventure"-type game I ever saw was "played" by reading printouts line-by-line on 132-column green bar paper, and typing in responses.

It was sooooo coooool...

2,053 posted on 03/16/2005 9:00:06 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Hamurabi?


2,054 posted on 03/16/2005 9:01:27 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I do remember also playing the old Star Trek game on a printer.

Dang... I feel old. :-)


2,055 posted on 03/16/2005 9:03:56 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Is that the stuff with the holes down the sides? Dad used to bring home stacks of the stuff. We'd color on the back side and rip the strips with the holes off. That was fun.


2,056 posted on 03/16/2005 9:06:01 PM PST by JenB
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To: Ramius
I think it was Hack, or maybe Rogue. The system admin geeks at the University played it during off-hours on the Sperry-Univac 1100 mainframe. This was in the summer of 1981.
2,057 posted on 03/16/2005 9:07:51 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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To: JenB

Don't make fun of us. We're old. It's not fair.

:-)


2,058 posted on 03/16/2005 9:08:30 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

I'm not making fun, I'm sharing your reminiscence over ancient tech! I was there... sort of... by proxy... at least I understand the challenges you faced and am thankful not to have to fight them myself.


2,059 posted on 03/16/2005 9:10:16 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
Green bar paper:


2,060 posted on 03/16/2005 9:11:33 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'm no stranger to the rain)
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