*New* The FreeRepublic Saddle Club - Who's Who *pics*
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Posted on 01/31/2005 8:31:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
*New* The FreeRepublic Saddle Club - Who's Who *pics*
Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?
This is a horse chat thread where we share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the previous threads we have had a great time talking through lessons, training, horse lamenesses, illnesses and pregnancies... and always sharing pictures and stories.
I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!
I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.
So... like the previous threads, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.
Previous threads:
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - thread ONE
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread THREE!
New folk and occasional posters, jump right in and introduce yourselves, tell us about your horses, and post pictures if you've got them!
That's a pretty broad statement. I've never sold a horse that the buyer didn't know everything about them, warts and all. Just "gave" away a mini that has a stifle problem I think. He wasn't advertised for sale but a lady called and wanted him. I explained that I couldn't in good conscious sell him until I figured out what was going on. She still wanted him so we settled on she took the horse, when her vet (one that I know and recommended because she's an expert on minis) comes out, ask the vet for a prognosis. She doesn't want him for anything but a pet.
Anyway, option is, buy the horse then, keep the horse for free, or return the horse. I'm guessing she'll buy him.
Had someone ride another this weekend over our objections so to speak. She's for sale but not much training and is chargy, doesn't have a good stop on her yet, and high headed. Not for beginner. Beginner wanted her, and changed her mind (obviously some sense). She's priced for what she's worth and that price is firm right now. More training and the price goes up to compensate.
Although I take care of all the critters well, even the ones dumped on my doorstep, I think he has a point. If it's free, people will often take animals on a whim, having no interest or ability to investing anything in their long term care.
If I were selling a horse, I would put a fair price on and accept no less. I'd worry that if they can't afford the fair price, they won't be able to afford the ongoing care for the horse either.
I'm more controlling after the sale though... I could see myself agreeing to sell a horse for a price, and then dropping the price by half if they give me written right of first refusal on future sale of the horse... and free if they'll agree to a lease where I could take the horse back at any time. ;~D
For me, it's not about money, which means I should never be in the horse trading business.
That's how I felt about Winnie. The seller was Winnie's breeder, both sire and dam were on site. A friend of hers bought Winnie when she was a baby, the breeder trained her, the friend kept her until she was 9 and that's when I bought her. She was too nice of a horse to dicker over a few hundred bucks.
I knew it was a big risk but if the horse was really bad, I would have only been out a couple hundred bucks, I could have gotten $600 at the killers, depending on the current price per pound. It's easy for me to have that option, Beltex is less than 30 miles from here. Before anybody jumps on me for that, I wouldn't do it to any of my current horses, the ones I love I have put to sleep and buried in a pet cemetery. A dangerous horse I don't have any problem turning him into steaks.
I don't give horses away, I want the killer price for the junk ones.
Me too, I'd never give one away.
Becky
Why? She wanted $1200, I got a dump truck I want $7500 for, if someone shows up with $6500 they just bought themselves a dump truck. And sure I'll be "insulted for a while....:)
What if you would of offered her $950 and she came back at $1000? $950 would of been a reasonable offer and the lady probably would not of been offended, you might of saved your self $200 to spend on a saddle.
BigMack
No offense intended, Duchess. It's just that honest horse sellers are as rare as grown women at michael jackson's house.
What if I showed up with 2.5K and said the POS was only worth 1K, but out the goodness of my heart I'd be willing to go the 2.5K?
Just to make sure no one thinks I was rude to this woman, I never insulted her or the horse. I told her I knew I was making a low ball offer, I'd give her cash, no further questions asked. If she wanted to keep trying to sell the horse and couldn't get what she wanted, I'd still be around to take him off her hands at my offer of $800. That's when she said my offer was an insult.
Our buying and selling of horses is dependent on our reputation. Everyone around knows we'll pay a fair price, no more for a horse. They also know any horse we sell is exactly what we say it is and that our prices are firm. The lady who just took the mini bought one previously from us. We told her the baby was head shy and afraid of adults, said we'd make sure she was halter broke before we delivered her. We asked $400 (good price for a mini with no papers and no training at 8mos old). She paid us $450 when we delivered her because she thought we ask to little for her. She originally called us on the recommendation from someone else, the horses weren't advertised for sale.
Whether or not she pays for the second one we just delivered, we got much more in free advertising and good will. She'll send anyone interested in horses that she talks to to us.
I was more concerned with her concession on the week trial period, and that she'd haul the horse to us. We paid the price, everyone ended up happy. I was buying a first horse for my beginner husband, and I was already a little concerned about her youth. There are worse errors than the loss of a few hundred bucks. She's young, but dead broke and sound and has a cool head. I could get $1200 back out of her easily. She'll never be worth less than that as long as she's still useable. That's pretty much the bottom for a good trail horse without limiting mental or physical faults.
I'll leave the great heroic dickering victories to others like yourself, I can't compete with that. :~D
Is this mini one of your rescue minis from a couple months ago?
That's a good one, the old biddy made herself a big mistake. Does she have children? We've had old people's children jump in at the last minute and really screw up the deal for them.
We bought some property that connected the current place we live on. An old couple wanted to sell it and retire on the money except the place wasn't worth what they wanted. My husband said fine, I can't pay you more than it's worth. A few months later they were at our door, contract in hand.
I personally think you got a great horse at a good price. Cyn's now worth much more than that because she's trustworthy and willing.
That's the ones - last of them left this weekend. The little guy with the stifle problem. That's not diagnosed but I'm positive that's what it is, also positive that it's not repairable but also not painful when it happens.
You sound like the lady I bought Winnie from. I was telling her about my trials and tribulations trying to find a safe horse for my daughter, I even ran into horses I knew were drugged because their penises were hanging out the entire time I was looking at them. This woman said she can't do that stuff, her reputation meant too much to her.
She'll be the first person I go to if I'm ever in need of another kid horse and I would recommend her to anyone.
I'd say "Well friend your headed in the right direction." :)
And then I'd take your for a test drive and explain just how much money you could make with my POS, I'd tell you I even have 3 jobs lined up you could do hauling gravel to people I know and you could make $1,500 profit from those jobs and could do them in 2 days time, and thats just from 3 small jobs! I'd then tell you you could pay for the truck in about 8 days at that rate and I really should be asking more for the truck because it is such a good money maker. :)
BigMack
And that kind of reputation money can't buy.
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